NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

[Reckamonic]

Besides the fact said vig is playing against his wincon you mean? <_<;

[RaudhrGarm]

I thought that I made a post...bloody internet connection.

Anyhoo, reading through Kise's posts in ISO, I didn't get any large scum reads from it. I'm keeping my vote on Snake for now.

[MrZepher]

Powerrox replaced Bristep correct? (I know it's correct; I'm just being facetious )

Vote Bristep

let's get the shenanigans on the road shall we Bri?

Now I've read up this game

Some comments

UNVOTE:
VOTE: C-Worl. You're overreacting so much that I have a very hard seeing you as town

I don't see the Snake-wagon. For me he's a null read ATM

hmmmmmm...

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I just thought that was interesting. Duly noted should either of them flip scum, but I'm not really going to look into it much further.
After reading through the C-Worl ISO a third time (and NOT at 2am), I actually think I'm more convinced that C-Worl is just dumb. Not necessarily town, but definitely dumb lol. That being said, I took another look at Snake and say:

VOTE: SnakePlissken

You have one, MAYBE two semi-acceptable posts, and even saying that much leaves a bad taste in my mouth. What's disturbing is that that one post is your vote on Reck, which really isn't even that good. Ray gave what I think is a legitimate reason for replacing out. Ray's reason in itself is enough to void your reasoning.
Your vote on C-Worl was dumb, your vote on Reck is semi-dumb (but I can see where you'd be coming from so there's SOME BoD there). C-Worl may be scum, but we're at least getting information from 'im. You've been about as useful as a clump of dirt.
Also, to your suspicion on Kise: It's not actions that indicate scum, it's intention. I have yet to see real scum intent on Kise's part, but we will see.

[Nero Cain]

your pushing on kise is pretty ridiculous, you basically have no legitimate reasoning (but then you really haven't had legitimate reasoning for anything today) and the guy outed jindori. If you're trying to tell me he did a fake daykill gambit as scum, and his latests posts have been solidly town. you've been hopping votes pretty much arbitrarily all day, trying to find something that'll stick. I want to vote you, but snake is so much worse. But he's almost certainly not werewolf. Decisions, decisions...

We have a mafia to find too yuo know...

Note to self: in the unlikely event that Kise flips scum, Gorilla needs to eat a bullet. Or several.

I'm NOT sayin' that Gorrila is deff town but...

gorilla - 2 (tclawren, Eldritch Lord)

He's being voted by two majorly scummy players.

[Reckamonic]

I haven't consulted with dramonic on this, so I might get yelled at because he's not here all day long, but that NS slip on saying he's vig or SK seems worthy of a vote.

Unvote; Vote: NS

[Lowell]

RL crisis. Back in two days. Apologies mod and all.

[Nobody Special]

I haven't consulted with dramonic on this, so I might get yelled at because he's not here all day long, but

that NS slip on saying he's vig or SK

seems worthy of a vote.

Unvote; Vote: NS

Okay, genius, tell me how what I said was anything like a slip. Here, I'll even show you what Kise said that I commented on:

PGO in a normal game loloololksure.... AND I WILL THRASH YOU SO WE'LL SEE WHOS GOTA GUN

MAFIA PEOPLE
DONT ROLEBLOCK ME
IM GOING IN TONIGHT

UNVOTE; VOTE": SNAKE

Let's examine this.

A) He addresses the "MAFIA PEOPLE"
B) He says "DON'T ROLEBLOCK ME"
C) He says "I'M GOING IN TONIGHT"
D) He says "WE'LL SEE WHOS GOTA GUN"

From A) we can gather he's either Town or Lying Mafia.
From B) we can ascertain that he is a power role (or, again, Lying Mafia).
From C) we can assume he's going to attack you (or is, say it with me, Lying Mafia).
From D) we can infer that he's a killing role (Town Vig, 3rd party Serial Killer, or, you know it by now, Lying Mafia).

Since I have my doubts about your towniness, Reck, I'll assume your alignment based on Kise's flip.

[DemonHybrid]

Charlie replaces kr0b.

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE COUNT

Day 1 Vote Count (#33)

SnakePlissken - 6 (implosion, RaudhrGarm, Kise, T-Bone, gorilla, MrZepher)
Reckamonic - 3 (Nero Cain, SnakePlissken, Lucresia)
tclawren - 3 (Lowell, Pine, C-Worl)
gorilla - 2 (tclawren, Eldritch Lord)
Nobody Special - 2 (ConSpiracy, Reckamonic)
Kise - 1 (Nobody Special)

Not voting - 6 (Charlie, Nachomamma8, Chronopie, Shift, Seraphim, Powerrox93)

MrZepher is V/LA on the weekends (Saturday and Sunday).
Powerrox93 will be V/LA until April 9th.
Shift is V/LA until Saturday, April 9th.
Nachomamma8 requested V/LA until Saturday, April 9th.

Please let me know if the votecount is wrong.

The deadline for Day 1 is April 24th, 3:00 PM EDT. With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch and 12 to No Lynch.

[C-Worl]

D) He says "WE'LL SEE WHOS GOTA GUN"

From D) we can infer that he's a killing role (Town Vig, 3rd party Serial Killer, or, you know it by now, Lying Mafia).

Actually, we can't infer that. Reck's former claimed Paranoid Gun Owner. Notice the middle word there. Kise is could have any role. Any role at all. If it targets then he can test Reck's theory by targeting him. If RF was telling the truth then Kise will die. If Reck was lieing then Kise will stay alive.

YOU, are simply trying to misrepresent Kise, or you simply didn't understand what was going on.

However, as others have said there is a HUGE flaw in Kise's logic if he was town.

He could target Reck and Mafia simply use their NK on him.
Mafia could roleblock him anyway in order to frame Reck.

Also, as Townies, we would have no way of knowing if Kise actually targeted Reck or if he just says he did.

See, the problem here is, those were people's legit reasons for suspecting Kise. You seemed to notice that suspicion and you searched for any reason you could use that wouldn't look like sheeping so that you could jump on him.

[Pine]

I pointed that out a long time ago, C-Worl.

[C-Worl]

I pointed that out a long time ago, C-Worl.

You really need to start reading my posts all the way through.

[C-Worl]

However,

as others have said there

is a HUGE flaw in Kise's logic if he was town.

He could target Reck and Mafia simply use their NK on him.
Mafia could roleblock him anyway in order to frame Reck.

Also, as Townies, we would have no way of knowing if Kise actually targeted Reck or if he just says he did.

See, the problem here is,

those were people's legit reasons for suspecting Kise

.

I noted that those weren't my original thoughts.

You seemed to notice that suspicion and you searched for any reason you could use that wouldn't look like sheeping so that you could jump on him.

This was the point of my post.

[Pine]

But...I lose brain cells when I read your posts all the way through.

[C-Worl]

If you read my posts more then your cases and points against me wouldn't be so full of holes. We all hated Jindori's posts and I hate LuLu's post but if you want to win mafia you have to read every word. If I recall correctly, in another game, you came down on someone when they said they weren't reading your walls.

[Charlie]

Hi guys. I'll start reading the thread from the beginning, but I won't be going through each an every post in detail.
I guarantee a neat summary when I'm done.

[DemonHybrid]

Lucresia prodded.

[Reckamonic]

BTW, Cam, this hydra is half-Will.

As in, CPW Will.

[RaudhrGarm]

Is it really necessary to post in "hydra" or whatever? It is slightly confusing if you're going to go using more than 2 personas, and I don't see the need for town to hide behind something.

[Reckamonic]

We occupy a single playerslot, of course we're gonna post on a hydra.
usually we consult before posting.

[RaudhrGarm]

Hmmm...we have less than a week to get a lynch or the scum have a free night.
/obvious

[RaudhrGarm]

ConSpiracy intrigues me...Mostly null read, but at the same time...

There's something about him. Am keeping an eye on him to see how his further posts are styled.

[ConSpiracy]

ConSpiracy intrigues me...Mostly null read, but at the same time...

There's something about him. Am keeping an eye on him to see how his further posts are styled.

I am getting an eye on me
I must be pretty.

How come nobody sees the NS scum-slip apart from a player who is desperately trying to avoid his lynch? Hmmz... Get's me to think.

[DemonHybrid]

Chronopie prodded.

[Nero Cain]

How come nobody sees the NS scum-slip apart from a player who is desperately trying to avoid his lynch? Hmmz... Get's me to think.

The NS-Ray back and forth in the begining of the game really intrigues me. I'm was to dumb to notice a "slip" but I wouldn't mind losing NS at all.