Half of the post is quoting, Martini, so it's not that bad. You're attempting to defend yourself, which doesn't make long posts bad for you.
Alright, let's crack down:
Martini wrote:It's because I just wasn't sure enough. we still had a very long time before deadline so there was no reason to hammer that quickly. Jack was second most scummy, but still not THAT scummy.
Okay, so just like every other reason, you didn't vote him because "he wasn't that scummy", whether you would've had to hammer or not.
Martini wrote:I was confused by his very bold hammer, which I thought scum wouldn't even dare to do (especially with that little explanation). Besides that there was also the reasoning that I posted about hiraki/brundibar. (they couldn't both be scum and hiraki was so sure brundi was
scum
)
Town? Or do you mean in the very beginning?
Otherwise, I don't see why Hiraki saying Brundi is town makes Brundi less scummy. That's just Hiraki's opinion; whether it's right or not isn't something that should affect you thinking that Brundi is scummiest to slightly scummy.
Martini wrote:No, indeed, the discussion didn't seem to make him less scummy, but discussion is always good. It was then when moonstruck started acting suspicious.
The reason Moonstruck started acting suspicious was because there was absolutely no discussion to make; we joked about simply waiting for Brundi to flip scum, and then Moon reacted the way she did.
Martini wrote:Oh yes let's not hammer on three different wagons by which I wouldn't attract a lot of attention anyway, if I were scum of course I wouldn't want to lynch townies yes?
I don't think you get what I'm saying. Keeping off the wagons means you don't think they're scummy enough to lynch, but why wouldn't you think so even though you have made the arguments on each? If anyone were scum, they'd
usually
lynch townies for scummy reasons. This doesn't mean the opposite is usually true.
Martini wrote:Oh yes like I haven't been supporting the moon wagon or the dbk wagon. I just haven't voted/hammered, thats all.
Brundi gave possible reasons for people being scummy and didn't do anything about it. You gave possible reasons for people being scummy and didn't do anything about it.
Martini wrote:Brundibar has been doing well with respect to the moon wagon and the DBK wagon, providing decent arguments. (some of them are similar/the same as other people already proided)
The bad things are his last vote ("basically for pressure"), and the stuff he did earlier (wha he was bandwagoned (and almmost lynched) for.
all in all I think more positively of him than when he was almost lynched, but still doesn't seem very town.
Okay, I agree with this completely, from beginning to end.
Martini wrote:Moonstruck's wanting to get brundi lynched still doesn't feel right, and she has mostly ignored the DBK wagon. Next post (next day) she ignored this and just started about me. She initially seems to say I'm not too scummy, then gives a small argument against me and notes she will be reading my iso. next day she (yet again) doesn't seem to have done this and suddenly talks about hammering. I find this rather scummy.
Got rid of Moon's quotes for easier analysis. Yes, I do find that quite strange that Moon ignored my wagon and started focusing on you. Though, why? Why would avoiding my wagon and going after the other wagons make her that much more suspicious? You think we're scum partners?
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Martini wrote:about DBK:
He has been single-handedly making this wagon on me, which I don't think is scummy, as he is actually scumhunting.
This doesn't make everything as it was before his strange proposal, but I have a lot more confidence in him now than before.
I find it more interesting that a lot of people just agree and vote me, however.
More interesting that people just agree? I don't think it works like that. People don't just agree without finding sense in it. We found sense in the fact you haven't voted even though you had perfectly valid reasons to lynch scummy people.
Now, after these arguments you've made, you haven't convinced me any more that you're town. All you did was point things out that I agree with, and in the parts where you attempted to defend yourself, you've failed. I feel that nothing else you can say can defend you any more.
Oh, and also, Moonstruck can't be pressured with one vote, and we're not accusing you of non-voting because you're simply non-voting.
Vote: Martini
Ninja'd: Looks like Moon cleared her case.
