The Call of Cutthulhufish ÔÇ║ÔîêGame Over!ÔîïÔÇ╣

[Amrun]

He puts the rage in Umbrage.

[GreyICE]

Yeah. Sad to say, Umbrage's normal play is just this bad.

[Acronach]

You pulled this exact same shit before. Whenever someone casts suspicion on you, you tunnel like a manic.

wait, so that's his normal play?

...might have to ISO and rethink this

[Cojin]

@ At moi

Sorry with this new job/ losing power for a bit, i wont be posting tell tommorow

Time to read i guess

[Cojin]

This is what i got so far, keep in mind i added to it chronologically


Charlie,

1. Cojin - Evidence of active lurking, support his policy lynch

Evidence? what evidence? ive stated when i can post and when i cant, your welcome to look to see the most players ive ever had in a game aswell im sure you had trouble keeping up in your first large game aswell
I find the large amount of suggested "policy" lynches concerning to say the least, time to read more i guess.

greyice

Goddamn it, Charlie is some sort of Jester/role that wants to be lynched.

there are no jesters

Acronach

how about a GI lynch? seems like the easiest way to solve the dispute between pind and LLD

unvote
vote greyice

still haven't heard anything that closely resembles an explaination in his spamming, so there's another reason to lynch him

Although this quote dosent have much releveance to what about to say in general. Ive noticed you have been jumping on almost EVERY wagon that seems to pop up. as a result i have some suspicion on you.


I dont know what to think of the "power unfluanced" vote as of yet.

Cworl

Know what the best way to find out if he's town or not? Lynch him. Oh and btw, FINE. I admit to sheeping to the Charlie wagon a while back.

IRonic considering i accused you of this A LONG time ago. why did you wait so long to answer it


Overall i still feel Cworl as scum. His posting has almost vanished now that hes not the head wagon, in addition to him admitting to sheeping. His claim, sure enough was a claim, i dont know what to think of it and i try not to let claims ruin scum hunting for now i guess my vote will stay on him.
. A
another curiosity is at moi whos soul way of scum hunting seems to be pointing out people who havent been posting, just an irk i dont think its much of a tell but we shall see. Also moi my gf comes over every second day ish, i dont post when shes over because she comes right after work so you will be seeing me post every second dayish. that being compounded by the fact the last day i was going to post i came back to find my house without power whatsoever attributed to why i was not posting.


Sharkfinn i find it intresting you mention me on your scumlist even though you had never talked about me before, care to explain why?

Achro is my FOS
Charlie is my FNOS
C-worl still seems to be my vote.


Another thing i have been thinking about is the heads and there alignment.

Thinking on how cuttlefish would mod, i think that the setup, although bastardly, would give each player an equil chance to win, as a result i see these possiblitys

DTM Suav
Surv surv
Maf maf
Town Town
town maf
surv town
maf town
town surv
SK SK
Sk Town
Town SK
SK maf
Maf SK


If there are multiple maf groups, i dont think he would put the heads in separate ones, and im doubting he would put surv with Maf or sk.
I dont know why i posted that, its jsut been bugging me.

[Cuttlefish]

Vote Count 1.24

Acronach (9)

- Empking, Lady Lambdadelta, Amrun, C-Worl, vezokpiraka, Zyrconium, Pine, GreyICE, Occult

C-Worl (5)

- Cojin, jindori, PimHel, Metro, implosion

Pine (3)

- MagnaofIllusion, Umbrage, Acronach

Raivann (2)

- tclawren, Charlie

Charlie (2)

- Fuzzy Beavers, Nobody Special

Metro (1)

- Raivann

Cojin (1)

- RICO ACT

implosion (1)

- SharkFinn

Not Voting (0)

With 24 players alive, 13 votes are required to lynch.

It is currently

05:49

on

April 1st

. Cutthulhufish is due to arrive at

00:00

on

April 7th

.

[Umbrage]

You pulled this exact same shit before. Whenever someone casts suspicion on you, you tunnel like a manic.

wait, so that's his normal play?

...might have to ISO and rethink this

Can't give a meta. (On-going game.) But I don't think it's a sign that he's scum. I actually have a (very) light town read on him, as opposed to Charlie, Pine, and Raivann.

[Umbrage]

Oh, and I'm still waiting for ANYONE to give ONE good reason as to why Acronach is town. Thank you very much.

[Empking]

Oh, and I'm still waiting for ANYONE to give ONE good reason as to why Acronach is town. Thank you very much.

[GreyICE]

Oh, and I'm still waiting for ANYONE to give ONE good reason as to why Acronach is town. Thank you very much.

*shrug*

No idea. Really... none.

[Umbrage]

Well, it's been shown he wasn't chainsawing. Raivann's been doing more vote-hopping. So what's left?

[tclawren]

Wait, do you want reasons why Acro

isn't

town?

[C-Worl]

Scumslip, found Acro's scum buddy.

[tclawren]

Scumslip, found Acro's scum buddy.

What are you talking about?

[Acronach]

Wait, do you want reasons why Acro

isn't

town?

would be nice if you could find some

[Acronach]

The following is every single greyice post in this game and what I think of it

page 24

Yeah, no kidding.

I've played with him in Walking dead. He was having fun, awful, anti-town, and nearly killed us all.

Here he's not having fun, forcing fake suspicion, and complete scum.

What's this C-Worl wagon?

Vote: Raivann

Thanks the mod for letting him in as a replacement and

immediately votes raivann

. Pretty sure he didn’t even have time to read, unless he was speccing the whole time.

Oh. Total and complete bullshit.

Everyone on the C-Worl wagon is dumb, scum, or both.

Seems to be defending c-worl a lot.

Goddamn it, Charlie is some sort of Jester/role that wants to be lynched.

From what I reread before I got to the part where GI comes in, this seems like a plausible solution. Of course the lurking he’s doing now would say otherwise.

Awww, LLD is scum

No explaination. Sscummy at the least.

VEZOK CLAIM IMMEDIATELY

Claim? I know he’s scummy, but if he’s a PR, this is a horrible idea.

RULE #1 VEZOK CLAIMS DAY 1

Double posting, kind of annoying. you already asked him to claim.

He's also town

Than why did you ask him to claim?

Oh man, he claimed inventor? Definitely town.

Votes for Vezok are votes for me laughing at you

Forgot, he claimed before that.

20a.

Although this is a bastard game, we promise three things. First, the mod is not a player. Second, there are no mechanics that involve changing win conditions. If you start as town, you'll win with town, and vice versa. Third, there are no jesters.

I choose to believe he's just bad scum.

As for the wagon on C-Worl, odds are that there's scum on there, but I think Ladyλδ is just misguided.

@Ladyλδ: ^ Grey has C-Worl experience too. Trust us here.

No, she's scum

It's sad because it's fun when she's town, but she's definitely scum this time around. Time for me to go build a case I suppose.

You keep saying that, but why? I still don’t think I got a good explaination from you on that.

Nobody special is posting, so he's obvtown.

Activity doesn’t have anything to do with alignment. If anything, high activity means maf because of them being nervous and wanting to look town by talking a lot.

page 25

Walking Dead never happened. Admit it, you have no desire to remember that game of not-mafia that did not occur and was definitely not won by a serial killer who did not exist.

No matter how b-mod this game is, it's not that.

Didn’t read walking dead yet. Guess I should.

I'm the mad seal clubber or something.From Kingdom of Loathing.

I like to break seals. LOL. I reread the PM. I thought I like to punch seals as in animal seals not those things you put on letter. LOL.

Every night I break one of my seals. I have 4 or 5 of them.
After I break them I don't care about them anymore and give them to someone I want to.
I am treasure hunter inventor or something.

He's town guys. Obvious.

Could’ve made up that claim. Not really that hard to do. For example…

“hey guys, I’m a mad scientist apparently. Every night I make a potion and give it to someone. It could have any effect, from killing them, to making them immune to maf/vig shots, to making them drowsy (post restriction), and even making them immune to lynches. I have no clue what any of the potions do before I pass them out.”

Just a matter of spending enough time editing to make it sound more convincing.

I see a little silhouetto of a man
Scaramouche, scaramouche, will you do the fandango?
Thunderbolts and lightning - very very frightening me
Galileo, galileo
Galileo, galileo
Galileo figaro - magnifico

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

And so beging the “random song lyrics” phase. This first 1 came with a vote!

Jesus Christ, GI is scum.

He's never this fucking loose. Ever. If he votes you, he has a case prepared and ready.

Don't it feels right like this
All the pieces fall to his wish
“Suck up for that quick reward, boy
Suck up for that quick reward,” they say

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
Was just a freight train coming your way
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
Was just a freight train coming your way
It's coming your way
It's coming your wayaaay oh yeah!
Here it comes

Confirm Vote

More song lyrics with a bombshell attached. Confirmed vote. Almost always a stupid move. Remember there’s still no explaination.

I was actually feeling doubtful of LLD myself, but it's mostly gut and that one point of hypocrisy that sticks iin my craw, where she calls someone scum for calling every post in an ISO scummy and then proceeds to do the same thing herself but cvall it town.

So, hardly a case, as such.

Hey, Grey, it's like a mini Walking Dead reunion in here.

All we need is someone to get modkilled for c/p their role pm and someone to play against wincon and it will be complete.

Goons or whatever you are this game, got any godfathers you want to happen?

Walking Dead happened, Grey. It happened.

*shakes head*

Walking what now?
It's sad that when Jack shot you on day 2, I thought it would be the worst, stupidest thing that happened all game. Town shooting obvtown in the face.
By the end of the game, it didn't even rank in the top 5.

Didn’t read walking dead yet. At this point though it seems like hes trying to distract by bringing up old games.

Grey, this game is driving me insane.

And then you come in, and I saw you posting and I was all like "YES! GI IS GONNA SMACK SOME SENSE INTO PEOPLE".

And what do I see? I get you posting song lyrics and baselessly calling me scum.

I'm so ready to just blow up on you, good god. Start posting actual fucking content. You aren't a VI. You aren't Fate. Stop acting like you are either of those, and play the FUCKING GAME.

You are very good at buddying me.
It tugs the heartstrings.
I have no heart.

Mustve missed that. GI, if that’s what you think is buddying, i no longer take you seriously even in the smallest way.

@LLD: GI isn't scum, your painful flailing is only going to hurt yourself...

@GI: LLD might well be scum(her defense is painful, and the setup speculation hits me as a little off in retrospect), she's still not today's lynch with Raivann about...

Mmm, no. If you cut the head off, the body will flop around for a bit, but it's dead.

I like to start at the top. Raivann is a job for the vigs.

Herm… zyrc, what makes you so sure that GI is town? You’ re basically discussing with him on which scum to lynch first. If there are multi scum teams, than I think this is these 2 trying to put another into the crosshairs without looking like it’s a scumteam. After all, GI has only been in the game 1 page at this point so… ya…

Might read up on zyrc later.

HELLO PEOPLE NOT READING BECAUSE IT’S TOO LONG! JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION AND ASK YOU TO READ THAT LAST QUOTE AND MY RESPONSE, IT’S PRETTY INTERESTING

page 27

my votes on GI. all im doing is questioning you about your opinion, an opinion which noone else in this game seems to share.

Me, Pine, C-Worl scumteam?

Don’t remember bringing that up, but now that you mention it…

I'm not sure what case Grey might have but it's fun to see him get LLD so worked up over it.

Just die already.

GI, are you gonna start playing the game? You're not helping the situation any.

I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy,
To be calm when you've found something going on.
But take your time, think a lot,
Why, think of everything you've got.
For you will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not.

More song lyrics -.-

page 28

LLD, if you see what I see then vote it or be damned.

You’re asking her to selfvote?

Last two pages, lynch list.

Pooch=screwed

Not really sure what he means by this.

lynches i'm ok with:
amrun
charlie
pine
GI

people i'm watching:
umbrage
c-worl
vez

LLD

MoI
raivann
nobody special
basically everyone else

So Achronach comes in here. And starts chainsawing me. For someone he's watching as possible scum.

Unvote

Vote Achronach

There's new and there's new, but then there's this. He needs some serious, serious rope. His entire ISO is finding reasons to find people scummy, asking theory questions, and generally lurking.

Umbrage is still a complete idiot I see. Vezok is not a vig target, Raivann is.

Already explained this at least 5 times. Random fail, you already confirmed your vote!

@mod: not sure if you’re counting his votes or not when he switches, but just reminding you he already confirmed on LLD

LLD, on the other hand, is a tricky one. She's as good at faking emotion as I am, and in a game like this, you don't even have to necessarily fake scumhunting (if we're assuming multiple teams).

What she's bad at faking are logical interactions.

In general you can break her interactions with others in this thread into two categories. Buddying, and pushing suspicion.

Buddying

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2952479

(Umbrage is super townie BTW, so it's him trying to gain town cred too).

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2957701

Pushing Suspicion

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2952758
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6&start=25
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2955112
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2955280

Scum mentioned: Pine, Occult, C-Worl, Raivann, GreyICE, and possibly shaved beaver.


What she is not doing: logically reasoning with others in the thread, working things through, or showing serious evolution of her views.

Pine went from town to scum in a finger snap. Now she's more or less customizing the posts so that I like them.

It's a very, very good job. But she's some flavor of anti-town. Too many contradictions, too much nonsense:

In order:

1) Don't speculate about the setup. That kind of information only helps scum. If you have ideas like that, keep them to yourself.
2) I'm glad to hear the bolded. If you are willing to work at it, I'm always willing to give you another chance.
3) Well, one major rule is not to speculate about things like Flavor or Setup. Don't try to out guess the mod.

1) This is a 24 player game. There are going to be multiple scum teams. As many as 3, plus third parties.
Of the 3 mafia on that wagon, not many of them will be the same scum team.
That's why I'm allowing for 3.

It seems to be allowing to randomly label people scum with no shown connections.

Now the 180 with the sheep.

Sorry, LLD, I like you too, but I do really think you're anti-town.

That being said, Acronach was horrible, and must die for that list.

Why I don't care if Raivann is town, a short informational history:

4:2 MyLo and we spent a better part of a week with two wagons at 3:3. One was on town, one was on obvscum. Guess who the townie helping the scumteam out was?

Oh and just Walking Dead in general.

Just shoot him.

Random lightbulb.

LLD was the first I think to mention 3 or more scumteams. If scum does have inside info about this, I think LLD is on 1 of these teams.




I’ll do the rest later when im not so tired, but from what I saw so far, here’s my revised scumlist.

Uberscum:
GI
Zyrc
LLD

Scummy:
Charlie
Pine
Amrun

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I stopped reading when you implied that I had knowledge about all of the scum teams.

[Umbrage]

Scumslip, found Acro's scum buddy.

What are you talking about?

Anything to try and keep the wagon going...

[tclawren]

My God Acro. I guarantee no one is going to read that whole thing. Not even MoI will and wallposts is his thing.

can you do a tl;dr version?

[Cojin]

His whole wallpost was fluff

[Raivann]

Acronach

how about a GI lynch? seems like the easiest way to solve the dispute between pind and LLD

unvote
vote greyice

still haven't heard anything that closely resembles an explaination in his spamming, so there's another reason to lynch him

Although this quote dosent have much releveance to what about to say in general. Ive noticed you have been jumping on almost EVERY wagon that seems to pop up. as a result i have some suspicion on you.


I dont know what to think of the "power unfluanced" vote as of yet.

Cojin-You have some suspicion of Acronach and Acronach is leading wagon. We all know bad things happen when Cutthullhufish arrives. Why not vote him?

[tclawren]

Cojin-You have some suspicion of Acronach and Acronach is leading wagon. We all know bad things happen when Cutthullhufish arrives. Why not vote him?

You voted Acro before, but you aren't on him right now. Instead you are on Metro, which is a complete waste of a vote.

Can we please lynch Raivann now?

[implosion]

And ~500 posts later, I finally caught up...

Charlie pushing on a Serial Killer vibe is odd. First of all, it's difficult to justify reading someone as a serial killer... and second of all, it makes sense to push on someone for being a serial killer as either scum or town, since they would be a common enemy.

After thinking sanely about C-Worl's claim (and at the risk of sounding like I'm just sheeping the masses) it actually does make more sense as a town claim. A role that gains from dying isn't something scum would likely claim (it would make their lynch faster). Vezok's claim is probably town too. jindori's, I have no idea, but it's also I'd say more likely town than not just because the claim (as far as I can tell) is kind of complex, and unlikely therefore to come from jindori-scum. NS is also town. Jealous of Vezok's role.

I dislike LLD 606. It reads as blatant omgus to me. Sure, GI didn't give a reason for voting - but I frankly think that what LLD said of GI's meta shouldn't be strong enough for her to suspect him based on that post. Her next post is better (criticizing him for not posting content) but I don't like 606. After reading further (688), it could just be a manifestation of strong irritation.

I like Zyrc's 631. It pretty much sums up what I was thinking about GI and LLD at this point in the game.

Amrun looks town. Acronach looks scummy. I'm not sure precisely what to say about his voting GI while implicitly pressuring Raivann (by bantering with Amrun - even if he doesn't explicitly support the wagon, he implicitly pressures by questioning someone for calling Raivann town (plus, implicitly pressuring someone is scummy in and of itself)) - it seems similar to the "vote a scumbuddy, fos a townie" tell, though possibly flipped.

GI case on LLD is okay, not convincing though.

Umbrage 782 (Charlie lurked since his wagon died) = goodposting.

Pine's claim of being forced to vote Acro, IMO, neither makes the wagon more nor less appealing. This is because, first of all, there's quite possibly multiple scumteams. Second of all, it could be WIFOM, and would make sense if it is (considering the immediate reaction to it being OMG THE WAGON MUST BE ON TOWN).

...in EM batman=vig.

Just saying, I've been on EM a hell of a lot longer than him and have never heard this.

MoI is town. Not sure about the GI case. Him posting rhetoric seems kind of meta-ingrained.

@Shark: yes, in retrospect, my C-Worl vote was terrible. I think I said it was terrible (or blatant sheeping) at the time, actually. I wasn't really in the mood to go through and do real analysis like right now.

Anyway, I like the Acro wagon. I explained why earlier, when I talked about his interactions with Amrun, and he really hasn't done anything to rectify himself. Also dislike Charlie. LLD is changed to null-slightly leaning town. I have no freaking clue about GreyICE at this point.

Unvote,

VOTE: Acronach

[Umbrage]

^ scum

[tclawren]

^ scum

explain.