NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

[C-Worl]

Does ORDER of lynch really matter? They're all scummy and won't be crosskilled like I said.

If OoL don't matter den why you aint votin TC?

[Kise]

Even though Reckamonic is ignoring my card trick, I kinda get a town feeling. I did think Lowell was scum for parking his vote on you, but, I said the same about Snake & Lucresia's votes and... they town. (Lucresia = quadz)

But I may go back to Reck and Pine voting. Definitely Pine.

As for why I'm not voting tclaw... I'm a hypocrite. I want Charlie dead first. But, as I DID say today, he's more active than Charlie. I'll hammer tclaw but I WANTA CHARLIE LYNCH NEXT

[Pine]

It took 16 and a half hours for the "fast" Charlie wagon to buildup to 5 people. It took 3 hours for my wagon to build up to 4.

This is why you're town. Most of the scums came to you, but only half went to Charlie because his buddies were slow on the draw. They must like to switch it up every now and again.

Charlie's wagon built up slowly because it was on a lurker of debateable scumminess who hadn't received a lot of attention.

C-Worl's wagon built up quickly because it was composed almost entirely of people who have consistently (and correctly) recognized all of the many scummy things he's done ALL GAME.

Don't try to rewrite history.

[DemonHybrid]

Looking for a replacement for Lowell.

[mastin2]

Looking for a replacement for Lowell.

Guessing that'd be me?

[Pine]

God help us all. Prepare for the mastinwalls.

[MrZepher]

UNVOTE:

I'm actually having a legitimate hard time trying to decide whether C-Worl actually IS obv scum, or just really bad at looking town.
Naturally scummy players exist afterall.
If anyone wants to try to convince me that's cool (sans C-Worl.)

In the meantime I'll be pulling together a case on Tclaw and Pine...

^scum post
VOTE: mrzepher

Because I'm obviously not allowed to come to the realization that C-Worl is an easy bus....

In any case,

Vote: Tclawren

If you want a stronger case than a small wrap-up I can pull one together,
it doesn't take much other than a quick look at his iso to see that he's most likely scum.

Sorry it took me so long to post today. I've been asleep all day lol. Oops.

PRE-EDIT:

Obviously Pine, you've never played with Korlash...
his walls can keep the huns out of china ._. .....

[Kise]

ONE GAME IS ENOUGH VCOME ONNN

[Pine]

^TC is at L-2

Offtopic: The Great Wall of China was actually not intended to directly keep the Huns out of China. The cost of manning such an enormous wall was prohibitive, so it was lightly-manned most of the time. When a raiding party broke through the wall, though, the soldiers and militia were called out to guard the wall, making it nearly impossible for the raiders to escape with their lives. Very quickly, it became seen as suicidal for Hun raiders to cross the wall, and so it stopped. /history buff

[DemonHybrid]

Looking for a replacement for Lowell.

Guessing that'd be me?

Correct.

mastin2 replaces Lowell.

[Kise]

unvote
vote: tlcaw

/inb4wallposting

Yay, night phase! I get to use my imaginary vigging powers!

[Kise]

After one more vote, of course.

Don't forget to go for Charlie after I die tonight, alright kids?

[mastin2]

Indeed. For starters, I've essentially only skimmed the game, but...

-C-worl looked town.

Unvote

.
-So did tclawren.
-Reckamonic and Kise I'm guessing are town, too.
-I remember being suspicious of T-Bone.

That said, I need to read the whole game, instead of skimming. I probably won't wall, actually. Takes three times longer to type than it does to read.

[Pine]

Tclawren is at L-1.

I'd like a claim.

[tclawren]

Town Neighbor with EL.

The people that are most likely scum in my opinion are:

gorilla

T-Bone

Nachomamma8

Chronopie

MrZepher

[mastin2]

Personally, I don't see why it'd be necessary. (Since I thought Tclawren looked town, and therefore shouldn't be forced to claim.)

Anyway, going to start reading up on the game.

Preview-Edit:

Gah, I told you so. >_<

[mastin2]

gorilla <--Looked like a mislynch to me.
T-Bone <--Agreed.
Nachomamma8 <--Wait, Nacho's in this game? Did not really notice him. (Hmmm...)
Chronopie <--Neutral.
MrZepher <--I believe Zepher looked like a mislynch to me.

Of course, I'd like to read the whole game before voting, 'cause skim-reads are rarely very accurate.

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE COUNT

Day 3 Vote Count (#7)

tclawren - 8 (implosion, ConSpiracy, Pine, C-Worl, Reckamonic, Chronopie, MrZepher, Kise) L-1
MrZepher - 2 (Nachomamma8, tclawren)
Kise - 1 (Powerrox93)
Charlie - 1 (T-Bone)
Powerrox93 - 1 (gorilla)

Not voting - 3 (Charlie, singersigner, mastin2)

As a reminder, keep in mind that ANY AND ALL prods do not go away after various game phases. If you need to be prodded and you have two prods, I will start looking for a replacement.

singersigner is V/LA from Thursday, April 28th to Sunday, May 1st.
ConSpiracy is V/LA from Monday, May 2nd to Thursday, May 5th.

If I am missing anything this votecount, let me know.

Deadline is May 17th, 9:00 PM EDT. With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch and 8 to No Lynch.

[Kise]

I know that's not confirming of anything, but.. just don't feel like continuing this.

Unvote
Vote: Charlie

Mastin, as a veteran voice, help me out here. Should tclaw mention if there's any more neighbors (obviously not who) in case scum want to fakeclaim neighbor? Or do we hope there's another neighbor that can catch scum lying about this?

[Powerrox93]

Oh yes, I'm sorry.
Look at these votes all over the place, how messy.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Charlie

Are you ever gonna read up the thread?!

[Powerrox93]

@Mod:

V/La May 12-15

[mastin2]

The extra Neighbors claim, if they exist.

[Lowell]

bah, sorry about that everyone, didn't realize I'd been negligent.

[mastin2]

Bah. Just lost my post. It was covering the first five pages. But essentially, my reads boiled down to this:

-Bri (powerrox, now) is practically confirmed town.
-tclawren is town.
-T-Bone is scum.
-Nacho is scum.
-Gorilla is a possible jindori buddy.
-Before replacing in, I had a strong read on Charlie. Unfortunately, this read was made nearly a week ago, and I have since forgotten whether it was a strong town read or a strong scum read. Krob's play in the early-game makes me slightly lean towards the latter.
-Kise is town.
-So is C-worl.

Think that covers the highlights. Might've been more. But it's essentially...

2. ConSpiracy <-- ? (I was in the process of determining ConSpiracy's alignment. I believe he was leaning scum.)
4. Charlie * kr0b <--Strong read which I've since forgotten, leaning towards scum.
7. Reckamonic RayFrost <--Town.
10. gorilla ** <--Possible jindori buddy.
11. T-Bone <--Scum.
12. Nachomamma8 ** <--Scum.
13. Pine <--BAD Idea for me to read.
15. Chronopie ** <-- ?
16. Kise * <--Town.
17. singersigner Shift <-- ?
18. implosion <-- ?
19. C-Worl <--Town.
20. MrZepher ** <-- ? (At the early stage of the game, at least.)
23. tclawren <--Town.
24. Powerrox93 bristep123 <--Town.

So, narrowing things down:

2. ConSpiracy <-- Scum? (Weak.)
4. Charlie * kr0b <--Scum?
10. gorilla ** <--Possible jindori buddy.
11. T-Bone <--Scum.
12. Nachomamma8 ** <--Scum.
13. Pine <--Ditto.
15. Chronopie ** <-- ?
17. singersigner Shift <-- ?
18. implosion <-- ?
20. MrZepher ** <-- ? (At the early stage of the game, at least.)

Eliminating the neutrals for now,

2. ConSpiracy <-- Scum? (Weak.)
4. Charlie * kr0b <--Scum?
10. gorilla ** <--Possible jindori buddy.
11. T-Bone <--Scum.
12. Nachomamma8 ** <--Scum.
^There's our scum.

Now, to continue my read.

[Pine]

Neighbor =/= Mason

In fact, in many games that I've read, Mods like to put a Townie and a Scum together when they have a pair set up at the beginning of the game. If it's a recruitment role, that's different, but EL's flip didn't say "Neighborizer," and the way TC claimed, it's probably a pre-set pair and not a growing Neighborhood like we saw in There Will Be Blood.

Vote stays.