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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 9:02 pm

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So you can't nest Spoiler tags inside quotes inside spoilers.

P.Edit: Thanks for the tag fixes DH.

Anytime.


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I feel that T-Bone- and Nacho-scum need to be lynched first. (although Nacho's nothing more than lurker-scum, with a minimum of connections made, he's still scum.)

I have one of those feelings that T-Bone's aggressive play is masking scum motivation by way of shear volume. As such, within the morass, we will probably find links to his partners.

While Nacho appears to be trying to lurk to victory. As such, this would be a low information lynch, but ultimately still needs to happen.

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On Zepher's iso-case:

0-3: This madness has been addressed before and I still hold him in contempt for it.

*I see the thread is open (well after the game has started), read the thread, made a vote on pine, whom had made several scummy actions
**Pointed out that people were attacking me on false grounds / by differing definitions. Rather than making a comprehensive case, I'd posted my reasoning in a tl;dr form
And lets be honest, would you rather have ~12 near-identical cases on a player, cluttering up the thread, or shorter posts made by people largely in agreement with the present case, with small adjustments from their own povs.

***Expanding upon the T-Bone/Krob connection that I perceived to exist. Note that I still wouldn't mind T-bone hang, while charlie is just a lurker.
****Terminology Disputation

4: The end of his post he over simplifies the argument against him and belittles its credibility
*although it could be seen as an over-simplification, that really is the core of the matter at that point in time.
This guys showed up finally and made a post, in which he agrees with current sentiments, and votes for the same person that others are voting for, because he perceives the same tells that others do.

It doesn't really sound good when put that way :/

5: Over exaggerates and claims a chainsaw defense on C-Worl... since this comes before even the jindori madness the chainsaw claim is overdramatizing the
argument.
* Defending a player by means of attacking the attacker. This is indeed what C-Worl did when he defended krob's attacking me.
Admittedly I probably did exaggerate. slightly. But I was under a moment of zealousness, and the connection seemed evident.


6-8: Nothing special here....

9: Makes a point about multiple wolf factions not being possible, but his comment about Jin bothers me somewhat.
* I play by means of connections. If I can analyse a confirmed scum's posts, provided that he's posted enough, I can usually pick out those he attacked as likely town, while those he subtled buddied as scum. So having Jindori around longer would have allowed for some more concrete connections to be formed.
As it stands, it has been futile to attempt, as his iso is garbage.


10: No. Bad. A summary of things is not enough to call somebody town. Anybody with any intent can do it. Bad move bud.
* Playstyle differences perhaps. I like to use summaries as a tl;dr breakdown, so I can reference to that post, rather than going back through the entire thread repeatedly. I do it as town, so it's become a towntell from my pov. /selfmeta

11: I could get a better read on this post if I understood Chrono's acronyms... It comes off as scummy for now.
Chronopie wrote:@Kise: If the west side ww's [werewolves] needed to outlast the east side w/e [
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ofc [Of Course] I don't believe it myself, I say he was scum, and BS'ing [bullshitting] on it. w/e.

*Here I was playing Devil's Advocate, "assuming" that what Jindori had been saying was true, then the scenario could have been possible. the disclaimer afterwards was my personal view, at odds with the devil's advocate role.

12-13: Asking Reck to claim
*One of the easiest ways to catch scum out is to ask them, before they get the chance to look over their predecessor's posting, whether what their predecessor claimed is what they confirm. If they confirm, you have them locked into the role, if they deny (or better claim contrary), lynch them.

14: You make a point, but it's still dumb to ask. Reck isn't stupid... I think...
*A simplification, but it got the point across.

15: Make a couple good points, and then adds on a little to Implosion's post. Debatable read.
*This post is pretty straightforward from my PoV. I thought NS was scummy, I pushed the point.
ofc the SK proved me wrong the very same night


16-17: Intentional lurking much?
*Not so much lurking as busy with rl commitments
**Posting a picture for the lulz. Also commenting that, while I was infact still busy, that shouldn't mean that no one else posts.

18: Makes a point about the SK
*A viewpoint I continue to stand by, as removing a source of anti-town kills is always beneficial.

19: Ummm... hmmmm....
*re-enforcing a viewpoint I held, and continue to hold, intended as an addendum to the previous post, as I was unsure whether I would have regular access at that point in time.

20: LOL. 7 posts after a mod threatens to prod and his internet is magically fixed. Convenient much? Otherwise, nothing that wasn't said before.
*While it is ironic, (the distance from the mod post), it was infact the estimate I'd placed on the duration of my absence (note that it was 4 days since the prior posts at that)
The rest of that post was a rapidfire catchup summary.

21: Adds to Quad's list
*Self-explanitory

22: Addressing some things
*Self-explanitory

23: It bothers me how nonchalant he seems with this post. "Ideally he's scum, but a town flip is cool too."
*Again, I work via connections. TC's been fairly active, and we can get almost as much from connections made between scum/who the scum attack, as from genuine townie suspicions, whom may have picked up things that others miss, as no one has quite the same perspectives.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 9:49 pm

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Kise wrote:@Conspiracy: Still fishing me?

Yep, cuz I still don't like your interaction with Reckamonic
C-Worl wrote:@Conspiracy, Pine finds CP scummy but isn't voting, he's obviously protecting his buddy. Sometimes you gotta put a few holes in the body before you can slice off the head. You should totally vote Chronopie.

Bull shit. Chronopie is an easy wagon.

Chrono, why are you suddenly active when you are suspected?
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 9:59 pm

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Mid-semester break :P
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:30 pm

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Good grief, Chrono.

Unvote :right: Vote: Conspiracy


CS, you've been my advocate the majority of the time. There have been MANY points in the game where you did not want to lynch me and stuck up for me when I drew heat. But you've always been curious about what power I posses...? And you say you
don't
like my interaction with Reckamonic...? So where have you previously mentioned your dislike over this?

I can't believe the scum QT is still wondering what's up with me. :roll: You didn't budge after jindori claimed, did you?
They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.

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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 3:11 am

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Kise wrote:CS, you've been my advocate the majority of the time. There have been MANY points in the game where you did not want to lynch me and stuck up for me when I drew heat. But you've always been curious about what power I posses...? And you say you don't like my interaction with Reckamonic...? So where have you previously mentioned your dislike over this?

Well, it is odd that you said you would clear Reck if he was PGO or not. Both of you are still alive, but you haven't put any suspicion towards Reck. Is it odd that I do not take every thing for granted?
I have put no suspicion towards you, but I can hardly imagine I am the only one who thinks something is wrong there, either with you or with Reck.
And I haven't mentioned it before, cuz I didn't really think about it any more. After tclaw claimed neighbour, I thought about it again and day 2 I was busy with trying to stop the lynch on the SK.
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 4:03 am

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Summary of players:


2. ConSpiracy - Funny in a good way at page 11.
4. Charlie replacing kr0b
5. Lowell
6. Eldritch replacing Lord MaxKojote
7. Reckamonic replacing RayFrost - Foo. Page 9 says scum.
9. quadz08 replacing Lucresia
10. gorilla
11. T-Bone - Town. Page 11 says Town.
12. Nachomamma8 - Town or Third Party. If I'm wrong I'll eat my hat.
13. Pine - Page 5 says scum. Page 8 says scum.
15. Chronopie - Page 11 says scum.
16. Kise
17. singersigner replacing Shift - Page 9 says Town.
18. implosion - Town at page 11, for the record he's Town when he made a good first impression x2.
19. C-Worl - Page 5 says scum. Page 10 appears really unconvincing; for the record this whole page is full of nonsense.
20. MrZepher
22. RaudhrGarm replacing [Moonstruck]
23. tclawren - Page 9 says Town.
24. Powerrox93 eplacing bristep123

Dead:
8. SnakePlissken,
Vanilla Townie
, Put to Death Day 1!
1. Nero Cain,
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14. Nobody Special,
Town Voyeur
, Choked to Death Night 1!
21. Thor665 (who replaced Seraphim),
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, Slashed Across the Face and Eaten Night 1!
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 4:05 am

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Allright, here's the truth: I read up my notes, the ones where I caught up to page 11 and then continued at page 12 only to find that I have no idea what I just wrote. I'm not focused enough to actually "fully catch up" in this game.

So in order to make myself more useful I can either:
1) Follow the newer posts
2) Replace out

I'd like to do option 1 if you guys don't mind. Out of courtesy to the mod, this game has had 9 replacements already and I'd rather not be a statistic.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 5:53 am

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singersigner wrote:And powerrox, you're creating a completely false situation. I said I read the past several pages worth of a game. This would include several votecounts (unless the mod is bad which DH is not), and several arguments that have already been hashed and rehashed, which give me more than enough to work with and not make a stupid decision like the one you're presenting, ESPECIALLY if it's not LyLo. Honestly, I'm surprised Charlie's bothering to even TRY to catch up on the whole thread.

Why isn't the whole game "several pages worth of a game"?
What's the point of catching up several pages after a V/LA if reading the whole thread after replacing in isn't?
Mastin's wall's makes my eyes bleed, but he's at least reading the whole game, which makes him more likely town then you and Charlie.

ConSpiracy wrote:So who is in your scum area? And why? (Apart from Charlie off course)

Note: Nothing is in any particullar order
SingerSinger for the same reasons as Charlie
Chrono: He's "comeback" posts 1771/1775 bothers me in a way that's hard to describe but...

Charlie wrote:Allright, here's the truth: I read up my notes, the ones where I caught up to page 11 and then continued at page 12 only to find that I have no idea what I just wrote. I'm not focused enough to actually "fully catch up" in this game.

So in order to make myself more useful I can either:
1) Follow the newer posts
2) Replace out

I'd like to do option 1 if you guys don't mind. Out of courtesy to the mod, this game has had 9 replacements already and I'd rather not be a statistic.
Above are the raw notes I've been keeping, for record's sake.

... ^is just another reason to not move my vote from Charlie
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 6:11 am

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Thank you Charlie for finally contributing.

It's funny how it takes 7 votes for Chronopie to START playing. Too late in my eyes since he's been here since the beginning. He's a scum-lurker trying to save his neck and should be lynched.
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 6:12 am

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And you got it backwards Chronopie, I've suspected you and been on you since DAY 1. You only started "suspecting" me because I've advocated your lynch.

Sorry accidently hit tab and enter and it posted before I completed my thoughts.
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 10:38 am

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Powerrox, do you think I'm scum because I'm doing exactly what I said I'd do the moment I started playing this game?

Why didn't you think it was scummy then?

Or better yet, why weren't you reading the game to know that's what I said I was doing 30 pages ago?
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 10:41 am

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Actually no, lol that's so bad.

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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 1:57 pm

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tclawren and Reckamonic have been prodded.
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 2:51 pm

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Unvote: Chronopie


That was well enough of a composed answer for me to take my vote off,
But I'm still watching carefully.
or something like that....
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 2:55 pm

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So Chronopie, where's the answers to all my questions hmm?
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 5:22 pm

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Really? We're backing down off that?

Chronopie wrote:23: It bothers me how nonchalant he seems with this post. "Ideally he's scum, but a town flip is cool too."
*Again, I work via connections. TC's been fairly active, and we can get almost as much from connections made between scum/who the scum attack, as from genuine townie suspicions, whom may have picked up things that others miss, as no one has quite the same perspectives.


That still doesn't justify why you voted him after never addressing him prior, nor did you really state why you thought lynching him was a good idea. It was a sheepy, bandwagon vote with poor justification. Also, you list zepher as a possible scum on your wagon but then say his case seems sincere. So do you or do you not think he's scum?
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 5:24 pm

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He's just non-committing to everything he says to get the lynch wagon off his back. Fact is, he's pulling his suspicion out of his ass. Just see every vote he has ever cast.
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 5:33 pm

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T-Bone wrote:He's just non-committing to everything he says to get the lynch wagon off his back. Fact is, he's pulling his suspicion out of his ass. Just see every vote he has ever cast.


What makes you say this exactly?
or something like that....
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 7:25 pm

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gorilla wrote:Really? We're backing down off that?

Chronopie wrote:23: It bothers me how nonchalant he seems with this post. "Ideally he's scum, but a town flip is cool too."
*Again, I work via connections. TC's been fairly active, and we can get almost as much from connections made between scum/who the scum attack, as from genuine townie suspicions, whom may have picked up things that others miss, as no one has quite the same perspectives.


That still doesn't justify why you voted him after never addressing him prior, nor did you really state why you thought lynching him was a good idea. It was a sheepy, bandwagon vote with poor justification. Also, you list zepher as a possible scum on your wagon but then say his case seems sincere. So do you or do you not think he's scum?


Scum can make cases too.

The point is that some scum/players try harder than other scum/players. See T-bone's/Nacho's Vote posts, as opposed to Zepher's.

Zepher made an effort to make a case. but this is still multiball, so nothing is guaranteed.

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TC has been a often-posting player, although his posts did not look particularly town. Therefore connections could have been made between his posts and a flip. I expressed my Vote as for the purposes of information, and that's precisely what I play for.
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 9:46 pm

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NO.

Fuck all of you.

PUT YOUR GODDAMN VOTES ON CP RIGHT NOW.

I will change my signature to "I take it up the ass from Chronopie" if he magically ends up being town.
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 10:32 pm

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No. Chrono answered all my questions, and while he isn't exactly confirmed town I'm comfortable looking elsewhere for the time being.
or something like that....
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 10:53 pm

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I'll also add "I take it in the mouth from MrZepher" if he flips town. But only if you vote for him.
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I'm sure that makes sense in some way I'm not seeing.... but I'm not seeing how that makes any sense.
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 11:19 pm

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C-Worl wrote:NO.

Fuck all of you.

PUT YOUR GODDAMN VOTES ON CP RIGHT NOW.

I will change my signature to "I take it up the ass from Chronopie" if he magically ends up being town.

This is sad.
Now stop voting for Chrono as we have far more scummier Pine out here.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2011 11:50 pm

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Unvote; Vote: Pine


Fuck all of you. I'm sheeping ConSpiracy for the rest of the day. Everyone in our mafia QT said it was a great idea.
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2011 12:46 am

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C-Worl wrote:rlhfdhjfbwjvfnjbvfewkjsdfnvnjkvfnvfnbnbtrm,dfbsnk

Unvote; Vote: Pine


Fuck all of you. I'm sheeping ConSpiracy for the rest of the day. Everyone in our mafia QT said it was a great idea.

Sheeping me or lynching Chrono?
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