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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 7:47 am

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Edmund, I don't have a firm case on you and will be unvoting you.

edmund.angles wrote:RQS: This is my sixth game over several years and I like playing all kinds of games and hiking.

I will confirm my random vote, zMuffinMan saying he knows who the scum are already is pretty absurd.
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for making a RQS even though it was not needed. At that point accusations had already started flying.


This post just struck me a little bit the wrong way, not really sure why. I enjoy RQS especially in games where I don't know the players that well and thought it odd you were ok with the fact "accusations had started flying." The accusations and votes to this point have been logical nightmares imo and from a mafia perspective you could have picked up on that and wanted to keep it going. As for knowing the 2 mafia being "pretty absurd", I found that to be a mafia reaction. Town tend to say, "Out your foses. How do you know that? How sure are you?". Regardless, just a hunch vote and there are better candidates today.

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zMuffinMan wrote:
andrew wrote:he knows why


Because you're scum and want me lynched?

I'm thinking C-Worl scum and andrew scum.

Also, policy lynching andrew is win/win even if he isn't scum.


Overtly hostile are we? Why is P-lynching Andrew win/win? A VI that is still town is still Town, isn't it?

This isn't the reaction I like to see after one pressure of a vote in RVS.

Also, scumpairs on Page 1. There'd be no concrete way you'd know that unless you were scum. It sounds like a splendid way to setup mislynches.

Unvote.

Vote: zMuffinMan


This post is the scummiest in the game so far. I get the feeling you are jumping on zMuffin-town for the first somewhat suspicious thing all day and are just push push pushing it. I mean take a step back and THINK if you are town. There is no way zMuffin "actually" knows 2 mafia on page 1. Its clearly not serious. The fact you are taking that comment serious is first-level mafia thinking or just really really bad town play. As for zMuffin, my intuition says he is a competent player and he still could be mafia, but it sure isn't for any of the reasons you or anyone else have been giving to this point. Overall I'm leaning town on Muffin, mostly because you are my top suspect.

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You called out two people as scum with absolutely no proof that either of them are scum. On page 1 of the game. It's not so much as the fact your connections to C-Worl and andrew now, there's no way to sustain that claim. None. There's no town reason to call people scum at this point of the game w/o some proof or suspicion. So either you're blowing smoke out of your butt during an RVS to see if you can get people to follow you, or you have access to information we don't. We being the townies.

It's more that you shouldn't have a reason to be lynch happy at this stage and shouldn't be calling a scum pair with nothing to substantiate such a claim.


RVS is essentially "blowing smoke out of ass" phase.


Amrun: is probably town although I disagree with most of his reads so far
Tragedy: I just completed a game with Tragedy as scum and my gut says she is town this game but will need more evidence to back this up.
C-Worl: is scummy. A lot of his posts have been to focus on lynching Muffin when I still have yet to seen anything that convinces me I should be voting Muffin.
GreyIce: I like his vote on Ghostlin, but could very well see this being distancing since there has not been a lot of support for a Ghostlin lynch til now and he probably doesn't think a lynch there is going to happen. I'll test the waters.

Everyone else: didn't notice enough to have anything worth saying yet.

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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 7:54 am

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Hmm.

I'm seeing Ghostlin more now. Still not the lynch I want for the day, but it isn't as bad as I thought.

His insistence on drawing an andrew/muffin connection is so strong that he's much closer than muffin to doing what he accused muffin of: setting up lynches.

There's a difference between acknowledging the possibility and sounding super sure of a pair without any flips.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:07 am

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Yes, Amrun, exactly. Who is the one who is actually taking a firm stance on knowing 2 mafia? Ghostlin.

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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:16 am

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... Quilford. Have you read?
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:17 am

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@Ghostlin on whether I still think zMuffin calling andrew scum of the bat is absurd:
Yes of course, but that is really more of a VI tell.

@Ghostlin on what changed to make me release pressure:
I saw zMuffin's reaction to pressure, which was what I wanted - nothing overtly scummy. And I wanted to vote Quilford.

@Snake: Your RVS vote is still on Quilford, are you on the wagon or off?

btw@zMuffin: Do you confirm what andrew said that there was once a different zMuffin who always tried to lynch andrew?
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:23 am

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@Ghostlin: Out of curiosity, why are you mainly concerned of Andrew/C-Worl partnership/wagon, although you're on the Muffin wagon?

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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:34 am

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I had Amrun, I just forgot. Was too lazy to read back. I'll review your suspicions on Quilford now.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:42 am

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Yes. Quilford is scummy. He jumped on the shitty zMuffin wagon and never explained himself. I want some content and an explanation from him before I'd be willing to lynch him though. The only thing Qulford has against him is not explaining his vote. Ghostlin on the other hand has explicitly shown thought processes and actions that don't mesh with town play.

Also, we are not lynching zMuffin so anyone voting him should just unvote.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:51 am

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I also disliked his reaction to the C-Worl thing.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:53 am

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And the "Response" from C-Worl was about RVS with Muffin.
This is ridiculous.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 11:33 am

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Sorry all, I've been stuck in the middle of exams and will hopefully read through and get posts up soon.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 12:36 pm

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Tragedy wrote:...Muffins.


I don't know you but I love you.

...Muffins.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:16 pm

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Re: my vote on zMuffin
Amrun, I honestly forgot. I'm pretty sure I took a break halfway through that post and came back and just hit the submit button.
You all may have noticed I voted him on Page 3, at which point I thought his actions (wanting a policy lynch) were the scummiest yet. ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIKE HIS EXPLANATION OF 'REACTION FISHING' = convenient way to explain away his scummy actions

Re: the C-Worl thing
I had no idea his question was expressed jokingly. Once again, this was in RVS, and it was one of the scummier things there, so that's why I voted for him.
however I really really really dislike his posting so far, including such unhelpful statements as in his ISO #4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 14, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 26, for starters. Only then does he begin to give proper reasoning for the zMuffin lynch, which up until then he had been pushing hard. I dislike his insulting of muffin.

I would like GreyICE to explain why he is voting Ghostlin.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:17 pm

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So suggesting a policy lynch is scummy in and of itself?
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:20 pm

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I dislike policy lynches, full stop; it's basically killing someone and hoping that they don't flip PR

views on policy lynches are extremely subjective from what I've seen across this site, though

but like I said, it was one of the scummiest things at the time of voting
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:23 pm

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Disliking it as a point in theory doesn't make it scummy. How is it scummy?
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:23 pm

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Policy lynches are better off at the RVS, not now.
If he wanted to push it with an actual case and make it look like a policy lynch, then yeah...
There's no actual in-game case on Andrew.

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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:24 pm

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I know that, Tragedy.

I don't care what Quilford thinks about policy lynches except as it applies to his treatment of zmuffin.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:46 pm

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Amrun wrote:Disliking it as a point in theory doesn't make it scummy. How is it scummy?

It's scummy because a policy lynch is a lynch that usually happens quite fast; it doesn't really take into account that person's play in the game; it doesn't allow said person a chance to improve and it can out PRs.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:47 pm

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whoops

UNVOTE: zMuffinMan

because I don't like anyone else on the wagon
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 2:13 pm

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Tragedy wrote:@Ghostlin: Out of curiosity, why are you mainly concerned of Andrew/C-Worl partnership/wagon, although you're on the Muffin wagon?

...Muffins.


Um...I didn't draw any connection to Andrew/C-Worl? I drew one on Andrew/Muffin since Muffin's been calling both Andrew and C-Worl scum since the beginning of game and has refused to really elaborate much on either why either of them are scum. And then right when the Amrun pressure picks up, Andrew votes Amrun, who's attacking Andrew.

Scumhunter: Quilford just jumped off the 'shitty zMuffin wagon'. What's your read on him now?
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 2:38 pm

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Tragedy wrote:...Cupcakes.


What happened to Muffins?
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 2:40 pm

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Unvote; Vote: Ghostlin


He's not reading the thread.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 2:41 pm

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Ghostlin wrote:

I acutally like the andrew/Muffin wagons still: If you read andrew, it sounds like he's waffling on someone who declared him scum in ISO 2. Read it, it's acutally rather illuminating. The dissonance there is 'I don't think your scum but you say I am so you're inconsistent, but I'm not really sure you're scum due to a guy I once know that shared a login(ish) with you.' (Later says he feels Muffin was joking.) Then he unvotes and votes Amrun--which seems to be chainsaw defending to me.



hey bro, did you even read/understand my post? if not, stop misreping and talking about something you dont know about.
do you even know what a chainsaw is?
lol? has anyone flipped scum?
i dislike people that say terms like 'chainsaw', 'bussing' without any flips
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Fri May 13, 2011 2:44 pm

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Quilford wrote:whoops

UNVOTE: zMuffinMan

because I don't like anyone else on the wagon


Who on the wagon don't you like and why?


Andrew, it's true that you can't use a chainsaw without flips, but you need to post some real content and reads. After such an extended absence I expect a reads list.
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