NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

ConSpiracy · Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 7:27 am

T-bone wrote:Because I didn't use the kill yet. What is there a special order for using powers I'm supposed to follow?

Because you could have waited claiming and use you kill shot on gorilla?

T-bone wrote:I thought Kise was really gonna do it so I RBed him to protect him

I can't help but fail to see any town PR do this to save another not even conf townie this way.

T-bone wrote:I didn't say I was a watcher.

Dude,you claimed watcher first and it was your only PR-action that actually does something.

T-Bone wrote:Gorilla is scum, implosion is scum
to a lesser degree
. I want gorilla lynched first. What part of that was unclear? Why do I need to attack implosion and mastin too? We can only lynch one player at a time and you just brought the most incorrect lynch of them all back to L-1. Nice job.

to a lesser degree - yeah sure. Both should be conf scum if you are town. To a lesser degree is BS.
I don't know where you got the idea of attacking mastin, but it's wrong.
Oh, and I don't like ad hominem.
And I want every body to read this votecount and read what's wrong with it and confirm their reads of T-bone:

Spoiler: votecount 3.13

mastin2 · Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:01 am

T-Bone's not wolf-scum. He's MafiaScum. (Sorry. Couldn't resist.

)

But still scum. (Five abilities for a JOAT seems a bit much. Three or four sounds more reasonable, but T-Bone literally claimed every single power possible: kill, protect, block, investigate [track], investigate-protect [watch].)

And I still say it's unwise to confirm or deny T-Bone's result, since regardless of whether it's accurate or not, role confirmation would not be alignment confirmation.

ISO · Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:07 am

I claimed CS because people were already pushing for my lynch. I was at L-4 before I even got my first post in. I was backed into a corner, otherwise I would have killed one of them first.

ConSpiracy · Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:15 am

mastin2 wrote:And I still say it's unwise to confirm or deny T-Bone's result, since regardless of whether it's accurate or not, role confirmation would not be alignment confirmation.

No way. You are far from townie to even consider saving yourself with this. It is not about T-bone being right, it is about you not being possible of pulling a fake-claim using T-bone's (possible fake) investigation. You shouldn't worry about being killed.
Ya know what?

unvote: T-bone
vote: mastin2

Let's vote for him to claim his result.

mastin2 · Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:36 am

If you get support from someone who I don't think is scum (support from T-Bone, Gorilla, and Zepher therefore do not count), then I will reveal.

Otherwise, your single opinion is going up against my single opinion. I think I should not reveal, and you think I should. In other words, if you get so much as a single one of my townreads (Charlie, Powerrox, Reckamonic, C-worl, tclaw) to support your stance, I will go along with that (presuming I don't get an equal number against it). Otherwise, I'm not claiming just for the sake of a single person. You're no Fate.

Here, I'll make it easy on you.

Town: Should I reveal whether T-Bone's result is accurate or not?

I'll discard the opinions of my scumreads. Neutral reads might count. Town-reads definitely do.

ISO · Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:40 am

You should.

mastin2 · Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:44 am

^And now you see why I think it'd be a bad idea, with my main scumread supporting me claiming whether I've visited or not.

ISO · Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:46 am

You said TOWN should.

You're certainly not off the hook. I think you should reveal your action.

mastin2 · Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:49 am

Oh, and to make sure it's unambiguous:

I'm not going to claim my role at all. That'd be pointless. It's simply confirming or denying T-Bone's result which I'll be claiming.

ISO · Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:51 am

He's trying to give himself and out for when I flip town.

MrZepher · Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:36 am

No you shouldn't claim, mastin.

Conspiracy

gorilla · Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:58 am

It doesn't matter if his result is accurate for your or not, mastin. he's scum, he's caught, one part of what he says being true doesn't mean he isn't lying about anything everything else. there's no plausible reason that implosion and I would both be scum and have visited nacho. Claiming here is just helpful to the scum.

singersigner · Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 11:45 am

gorilla wrote:because T-bone is actually scum and needs to die today

mastin can try to lynch me tomorrow if i'm still alive, but I'm town and my intention is to not get lynched so

Is your intention not to get lynched, or help the town find scum?

Chronopie · Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:03 pm

Right, so I'm back, and I can say that T-Bone was correct in that I did not go anywhere N2. But then again, he could have pulled a name out of a hat and had as much luck by guessing...

The fact that he claims to have had sighted several players with is tracking is far more concerning, given the cc's by way of denial.

That, in addition to my Suspicions of him predating this day, allows me to state, without reservation, that I do not mind seeing him hang.

ISO · Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:13 pm

singersigner wrote:
gorilla wrote:because T-bone is actually scum and needs to die today

mastin can try to lynch me tomorrow if i'm still alive, but I'm town and my intention is to not get lynched so
Is your intention not to get lynched, or help the town find scum?

To not get lynched. Getting lynched hurts his faction's chances of winning. They already lost Jindori.

singersigner · Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:29 pm

T-Bone wrote:
singersigner wrote:
gorilla wrote:because T-bone is actually scum and needs to die today

mastin can try to lynch me tomorrow if i'm still alive, but I'm town and my intention is to not get lynched so
Is your intention not to get lynched, or help the town find scum?

To not get lynched. Getting lynched hurts his faction's chances of winning. They already lost Jindori.

Boy you better shut the fuck up. This stupid rhetoric isn't getting you anywhere.

C-Worl · Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 2:59 pm

mastin2 wrote:Oh, and to make sure it's unambiguous:

I'm not going to claim my role at all. That'd be pointless. It's simply confirming or denying T-Bone's result which I'll be claiming.

DID YOU VISIT NACHO LAST NIGHT OR NOT?

C-Worl · Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:00 pm

Unvote

Until I get an answer.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:31 pm

VOTE COUNT

Day 4 Vote Count (#4)

T-Bone - 4 (gorilla, mastin2, implosion, singersigner) L-3
gorilla - 1 (T-Bone)
Reckamonic - 1 (Charlie)
mastin2 - 1 (ConSpiracy)

Not voting - 5 (Chronopie, Reckamonic, tclawren, Powerrox93, MrZepher, C-Worl)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 7 to No Lynch. Deadline is Saturday, June 4th at 12:00 PM, EDT.

mastin2 · Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:33 pm

Well, that's one request.
Still, though. The fact that multiple scumreads were FOR it leaves me hesitant.
I'll claim whether T-Bone's result for me is accurate in 24 hours, unless one of my town-reads objects. (C-worl obviously doesn't.)

ISO · Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:56 pm

In reality he needs 24 hours to figure out what he's gonna do when I indeed flip town.

Powerrox93 · Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Mon May 16, 2011 3:25 am

I don't like T-Bones claim. Joat sound really powerful consider what PR's we've already lost. And that we should have a mafia-cop as well considering we had a seer.

MrZepher · Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Mon May 16, 2011 6:12 am

T-Bone wrote:In reality he needs 24 hours to figure out what he's gonna do when I indeed flip town.

If you were really town, you'd be trying to help us try to find scum for tomorrow a setting you defense aside second instead of ranting and raving about how scum are getting you lynched.
You're flailing scum, and you need to be lynched nao.

Also, if he's a JOAT with a KILL, he could be mafia and submit the kill and claim it tomorrow as his joat kill.
Not sure how likely that would be to actually happen though....

ISO · Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Mon May 16, 2011 6:22 am

I have your scum Zeph. My scum hunting has finished for the day. There are only so many scum left.

mastin2 · Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Mon May 16, 2011 8:31 am

Y'know, it didn't really work out the last time I tried calling scumteams...

...But this time? I'm feelin' a lot better about this.

Calling it

: The Scumteams are {Jindori, Gorilla, Zepher} and {Nacho, T-Bone, Singer}.

Their interactions are definitely scum, scumhunting the other scum. Seriously, just look at Zepher and Gorilla's posts. They're so full of wolf-slips it's not even funny. Same goes for T-Bone and his mafia-slips. Among others is their selective scumhunting. I can quote any great number of posts where they're selectively scumhunting.

The weakest read here is singer. In theory, the final mafia could be Implosion (no), ConSpiracy (doubtful), singer (current main suspect), or Chrono (secondary suspect). I read her interactions with T-Bone as bussing.