Open 305 - Faith + 1 [D6] [LYLO]

[Ghostlin]

I'm not amused when you started the RVS vote on Muffin

then just hop off after people just hopped on

,
then hopped off after he went to L-1.

WHAT?, I did not do that, that is exactly the opposite of what I did!
I RVS'ed,
confirmed when I thought he was serious about his joke,

Kept my vote

when I saw the wagon building to avoid removing pressure.
Unvoted when zMuffin had been under plenty pressure.
You're mixing truth and fiction.

Oh true, the pressure.
But why did you choose to hop out at L-1 so you could've prevented the wagon enlargement to end up like that so fast?
It's like saying what's the 'case' on me at the moment, hadn't moved my vote from Amrun since RVS [Ops.]

Vote: Edmund.angles

It's still partially true that you hopped off after he got to L-1 anyways.

Tradegy: This is a lousy case. You're not even trying, are you?

[Ghostlin]

Ghost, I can't decide if you asking to be checked by cop is an attempt to appear town or if you really think thats a good idea. Not a good idea. If you are in fact town, and cop checks you, you realize you would just be night killed then? Also, if you are being sincere then really you are narrowing down who can be cop for mafia. I don't think cop should ever be pushed to check a specific person or even a specific subset of people. All that does is aid mafia in cherrypicking night kills. Our cop is our only weapon so we need him to stay hidden until at least 1 guilty. I'd even say a cop could breadcrumb a guilty as well. An outted cop has a 75% chance to die in a vacuum if targeted by mafia. Claiming with a guilty isn't even optimal necessarily.

You're presuming I would mind being nightkilled. This is not the case.

I was going along with the 'what if'. There's really no trick here, and I expect to be investigated anyhow.

[Tragedy]

@Ghostlin: Thanks, pal. -_-

[Tragedy]

That'd be a scum claim, folks.

Just lynch.

Oh, why so?
>.>...

Then why not argue, instead of just saying "IT'S A SCUM CLAIM" or "LOUSY CASE".

Also, GreyICE, I'm amused to see you ignored Edmund's post of you "leaning scum" because of your lurking.

[edmund.angles]

@Ghostlin: The reason you shouldn't try to pull the night investigation has nothing to do with whether you 'mind getting' nk'ed.
If the Cop investigates the NK target, then the investigation is wasted.
If scum know the investigation target they kill the target.
Don't try to direct the Cop.

[Ghostlin]

I'm not amused when you started the RVS vote on Muffin

then just hop off after people just hopped on

,
then hopped off after he went to L-1.

WHAT?, I did not do that, that is exactly the opposite of what I did!
I RVS'ed,
confirmed when I thought he was serious about his joke,

Kept my vote

when I saw the wagon building to avoid removing pressure.
Unvoted when zMuffin had been under plenty pressure.
You're mixing truth and fiction.

Oh true, the pressure.
But why did you choose to hop out at L-1 so you could've prevented the wagon enlargement to end up like that so fast?
It's like saying what's the 'case' on me at the moment, hadn't moved my vote from Amrun since RVS [Ops.]

Vote: Edmund.angles

It's still partially true that you hopped off after he got to L-1 anyways.

Tradegy: This is a lousy case. You're not even trying, are you?

Let me elaborate this post. The case is lousy because it only works presuming Edmund jumped off the wagon to clear a scumbuddy. There's a lot of reasons for someone jumping off at L-1, namely, they placed their vote at a certain time of the game where they wanted to see what would happen if they left it on. This is usually very protown.

Folks: read Tragedy's ISO...she did vote for Amrun, but she's been questioning/accusing other folks without voting them--not usually a good sign IMO.

[Tragedy]

So, Ghostlin.

Trying to point all the attention to me now?

Okay, it

may

clear a 'scumbuddy'. It's not 'usually very pro-town' when you have your RVS vote.. Wait, it was confirmed because of a "Joke", right..
You still can't 100% say it's Pro-town, but it's a natural thing to do, even if you're scum or town.

[Ghostlin]

So, Ghostlin.

Trying to point all the attention to me now?

Okay, it

may

clear a 'scumbuddy'. It's not 'usually very pro-town' when you have your RVS vote.. Wait, it was confirmed because of a "Joke", right..
You still can't 100% say it's Pro-town, but it's a natural thing to do, even if you're scum or town.

Out of the two of us, I'm not the one who's flailing.

You acutally didn't refute any of my points, did you? Also, your voting edmund for changing his vote at L-1 seems almost entirely driven to take the pressure of you.

Pot, meet kettle.

[Ghostlin]

Unvote. Vote: Tragedy

I'm not completely unconvinced andrew isn't scum, but the diversion and the muitiple questions/accusations without action convince me Tragedy is scum.

[Tragedy]

So, before I get to anything else.
So, Ghostlin.
Your vote was still on muffin, then hop out and went to andrew.

I'm still confused why everyone hopped out of the Muffin wagon again. (I'm not accusing him here, but out of curiosity).

Edmund's reaction towards my 'lousy' case was a bit expected. If you can't understand someone's post, then don't lean the person scummy, jeez.
Being a loose cannon juts to get out of RVS then giving that being pro-town is not pretty.

[GreyICE]

Lawl that vote was AWESOME

[Ghostlin]

Lawl that vote was AWESOME

Careful, GI, I may sheep you all game.

[GreyICE]

I can live with that

[Scumhunter]

Ghostlin, you have been all over the place. Whether that makes you scum I don't know. I do know the feeling of being random and placing votes anywhere and everywhere and don't necessarily think that that in and of itself is scummy. My vote on you is largely because I disagreed strongly with your case on zMuffin.

Tragedy, is there a reason people should have been staying on the Muffin wagon? If you don't strongly feel he's mafia why would you feel strange about a bandwagon coming off him? I was trying to get people off Muffin because I thought the case on him was very bad.

[Tragedy]

What mainly disturbed me is that people jumped off too quickly (Andrew/edmund [?]).

[Tragedy]

They should have jumped off of him when they realized he was at at least L-2/3.

[Scumhunter]

Nothing wrong with jumping off a wagon at any time if you are convinced its incorrect. Their motivation for jumping off is the important part. You may be onto something. I haven't looked into andrew enough, however I'm still suspicious of edmund. He was my first suspect and it didn't seem like there was much support for a wagon on him so I figured I'd focus my energy elsewhere. I need a nap.

[GreyICE]

They should have jumped off of him when they realized he was at at least L-2/3.

So did they jump off too quickly, or too slowly?

[Tragedy]

They should have jumped off of him when they realized he was at at least L-2/3.

So did they jump off too quickly, or too slowly?

In some random terms, slowly. Since they were still on it around L-3/2.

But in this case, at L-1, too quickly. Their latest posts after the Wagon Check of L-1, seemed to include an 'Unvote' from Muffinz.

[Ghostlin]

Ghostlin, you have been all over the place. Whether that makes you scum I don't know. I do know the feeling of being random and placing votes anywhere and everywhere and don't necessarily think that that in and of itself is scummy. My vote on you is largely because I disagreed strongly with your case on zMuffin.

Tragedy, is there a reason people should have been staying on the Muffin wagon? If you don't strongly feel he's mafia why would you feel strange about a bandwagon coming off him? I was trying to get people off Muffin because I thought the case on him was very bad.

What about my case on Tradegy?

[Ghostlin]

They should have jumped off of him when they realized he was at at least L-2/3.

So did they jump off too quickly, or too slowly?

In some random terms, slowly. Since they were still on it around L-3/2.

But in this case, at L-1, too quickly. Their latest posts after the Wagon Check of L-1, seemed to include an 'Unvote' from Muffinz.

Does this mean you wanted to see the Muffin wagon lynch at this point?

[Tragedy]

They should have jumped off of him when they realized he was at at least L-2/3.

So did they jump off too quickly, or too slowly?

In some random terms, slowly. Since they were still on it around L-3/2.

But in this case, at L-1, too quickly. Their latest posts after the Wagon Check of L-1, seemed to include an 'Unvote' from Muffinz.

Does this mean you wanted to see the Muffin wagon lynch at this point?

I didn't really focused on Muffin, or the number check on the wagon during those times.
I just checked recently, then saw L-1.
I'm actually trying to read.

[Amrun]

UNVOTE: Quilford

VOTE: Tragedy

[Scumhunter]

What exactly is your case on Tragedy? I had initially thought she was town, but after rereading not a lot of strong town tells necessarily, but nothing to raise my eyebrows at either.

[Ghostlin]

What exactly is your case on Tragedy? I had initially thought she was town, but after rereading not a lot of strong town tells necessarily, but nothing to raise my eyebrows at either.

Reread 330: a lot of that is there. Her case against Edmund is non existant, and a lot of things in her ISO are fluff.