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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 11:46 am

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Stephoscope wrote:I knew the lynch at six was coming. I tried my best to call it, but the mod had the thread locked *immediately* after Surye's vote.

Last night I learned how many towns and how many scums are left in the game. Does anyone want to hazard a guess?


3 + 8?
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 12:01 pm

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Vote Count 5.1

Charlie (2)
- Empking, C-Worl
Stephoscope (1)
- pappums rat
pappums rat (1)
- Zyrconium

Not Voting (8)
- Magua, tclawren, MagnaofIllusion, Magister Ludi, Charlie, Occult, Surye, Stephoscope

With 11 players alive, 6 votes are required to lynch.

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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 12:05 pm

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Stephoscope wrote:I knew the lynch at six was coming. I tried my best to call it, but the mod had the thread locked *immediately* after Surye's vote.


You knew the lynch was at six. You were on the wagon, and saw Raivann brought up to five. You didn't mention anything, allowed Surye to perform what you knew was a quick hammer...because...?

Stephoscope wrote:Last night I learned how many towns and how many scums are left in the game. Does anyone want to hazard a guess?


7 town, 4 scum.
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 12:12 pm

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Magua wrote:
Stephoscope wrote:I knew the lynch at six was coming. I tried my best to call it, but the mod had the thread locked *immediately* after Surye's vote.


You knew the lynch was at six. You were on the wagon, and saw Raivann brought up to five. You didn't mention anything, allowed Surye to perform what you knew was a quick hammer...because...?

Because I wanted Raivann to be lynched, of course.
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 12:56 pm

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Stephoscope wrote:

Because I wanted Raivann to be lynched, of course.


What's the god damn ratio? How many town? How many scum?
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 1:07 pm

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C-Worl wrote:
Stephoscope wrote:

Because I wanted Raivann to be lynched, of course.


What's the god damn ratio? How many town? How many scum?


Settle down. I want others to guess. Might prove useful somehow.
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 1:56 pm

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Magua, how come you aren't pushing for a pappums rat, (who replaced metro) lynch?

You were so confident and willing to lynch metro who had posted three times this entire game, yet that one message from pappums was enough to make you not want to lynch that slot anymore. I dont think if metro had made that same post, you would of said 'oh I must be wrong...., Let me move my attention elsewhere!'

Convenient voting and play from you yesterday.

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Steph: 3 scum would be my guess.

Does anyone have a single idea what zyrconium is doing with his votes.
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:20 pm

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MOD wrote:Raivann (6) - Magister Ludi, C-Worl, Empking, Stephoscope, Occult, Surye


I’m just leaving this at the top of my post to point out the pool of likely Mafians. Because that Raivann push when Scumoscope was under fire was scummy as all get out. I’d be shocked if less than 2 Mafians were sitting in this pool.

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VOTE: Stephoscope

Obv vote is obv.

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– I disagree with you and agree with Empking (dear God its the third sign of the Apocalypse) on the kill flavors.

Strangled has to be SK / Vig – it has been consistent every day. I very much think the other varied flavors are the result of multiple Mafians performing the kill

Note that both Dim-halved and Uppercutted both appear N3 after the character appropriate flavors disappear.

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C-Worl wrote:Vote: Charlie

He needs to die before he can become a liability to town (LyLo situations would be scary with Charlie) I was hoping a vig or something would get him by now but they've completely ignored him. This Janitor of sorts makes it hard to figure out who the scum are.


No way in hell. Sorry, you aren’t going after someone because they might be a liability in LYLO with obv-scum Steph lurking about. We are not policy lynching.

Get your vote in the right place C-Worl.

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Stephoscope wrote:I knew the lynch at six was coming. I tried my best to call it, but the mod had the thread locked *immediately* after Surye's vote.


Direct scum claim. No way a Pro-Town player doesn’t mention that there was a reduced lynch threshold.

Stephoscope wrote:Last night I learned how many towns and how many scums are left in the game. Does anyone want to hazard a guess?


So you learned how many Town and how many scums there are. Too bad you didn’t think to include the other known factions like Delusions and Serial Killers in this list.

The answer to your question is … one less Mafian after we lynch your obv-scum self.

Stephoscope wrote:Because I wanted Raivann to be lynched, of course.


No way in HELL Raivann was Mafia after a very likely Mafia kill flavor was used to off him. Of course you wanted him lynched – he isn’t your scum partner.

Further scum claim is further scum claim.

KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!


Everyone get your vote here stat.
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:24 pm

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:So you learned how many Town and how many scums there are. Too bad you didn’t think to include the other known factions like Delusions and Serial Killers in this list.


LOL @ you trying too hard. I know the breakdown by alignment.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:25 pm

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Stephoscope wrote:

LOL @ you trying too hard. I know the breakdown by alignment.


DERP. Just die scum.
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:27 pm

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Steph can you explain what you are waiting for by with-holding that information
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:28 pm

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Magister Ludi wrote:
You were so confident and willing to lynch metro who had posted three times this entire game, yet that one message from pappums was enough to make you not want to lynch that slot anymore. I dont think if metro had made that same post, you would of said 'oh I must be wrong...., Let me move my attention elsewhere!'


Please, enlighten me on where I said I didn't want to lynch pappum rat's slot.

When you've done that (I'll wait), enlighten me on whether you think me being scum makes pappum rat's slot town or scum.

Magister Ludi wrote:Does anyone have a single idea what zyrconium is doing with his votes.


Voting the person he thinks is mafia.

MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Strangled has to be SK / Vig – it has been consistent every day. I very much think the other varied flavors are the result of multiple Mafians performing the kill

Note that both Dim-halved and Uppercutted both appear N3 after the character appropriate flavors disappear.


So you think that the mafia, with a *factional* kill that is *not* tied to a specific player, have differing kill flavors?

There's got to be some relation between the "character appropriate" kill flavors from vezok and GreyICE disappearing right as "dim halved" and "uppercutted into oblivion" appear. That changing nature seems entirely against a factional kill. I could *easily* see the "character appropriate" kill flavors being SK, except that they stopped *after* Nobody Special got lynched.

As for strangled being SK: No way an SK killed jindori.
As for strangled being vig: No way a vig killed Cojin or Fuzzy Beavers. I mean, look: FB got killed after he outted and lynched a serial killer. No. FB got killed because he was town. jindori was obvtown, too, but an SK would have plenty of better targets than him.
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:30 pm

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Magua wrote:
So you think that the mafia, with a *factional* kill that is *not* tied to a specific player, have differing kill flavors?


Yup. Absolutely. Mod-Meta indicates this is very likely. Kingdom of Loathing Mafia had a Mafia where each member had their own kill flavor even though they shared a Factional kill.
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:46 pm

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Ok. I read the ending and the setup for that game.

I could buy "character appropriate deaths" being the kill flavor of one mafia member, and either "dim halved" or "uppercutted into oblivion" being the kill flavor of another.

Don't think that "dim halved" + "uppercutted" can both be mafia kills, though. Maybe "uppercutted" isn't a kill, but is some sort of kill enhancer?
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:50 pm

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Magua wrote:Ok. I read the ending and the setup for that game.

I could buy "character appropriate deaths" being the kill flavor of one mafia member, and either "dim halved" or "uppercutted into oblivion" being the kill flavor of another.


Then we agree.

Now vote Stephoscope.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:09 pm

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Then we agree.

Now vote Stephoscope.


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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:54 pm

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Magister Ludi wrote:Steph can you explain what you are waiting for by with-holding that information


I'll give a hint. There are more townies left than others right now.
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:27 pm

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@Stephoscope: I'm guessing it's 3 Mafia? And 1 third party, the rest 7 Town?

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Guys. This game is rather confusing. My opinion is that Mafia Flips aren't really all Mafia flips. My guess is a Mafia Janitor painting all the kill flips red, or, more likely, a combined role like enabler janitor something-or-the-other-role-stuff.

Look at the
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Day 1 - Acronach - Garry Kasparov [from real life], Challenged Flavour Cop in Training. The reavealed wincon is that of Mafia.
Day 2 - Nobody Special - The Basilisk Ring [from Toto! The Wonderful Adventure], Master-Choosing Perfectionist Combined Poison Roleblock Enabler. The revealed wincon is that of Serial Killer.
Day 3 - Pine - Chopin [from Toto! The Wonderful Adventure], Basilisk Ring Possessor. The revealed wincon is that of Delusion, which seems likely to be a Survivor role.
Day 4 - Raivann appeared to be spared 1 death by lynch, leading to no flip.

All kills were flipped red. Those alingnment flip I think is unreliable.
Something to note: During Night 4 player No.25 suddenly appearified. This appears to be Raivann's doppleganger, who got offed during the same Night.

Now, I'm afraid I've got some unsettling news. I think Occult is going to have to claim in his next post. You may choose to fullclaim or just a partial one, but I think it is best for you to just claim what you're comfortable with.

@Occult: Your move.
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:00 pm

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C-Worl wrote:
Surye wrote:
C-Worl wrote:Magister's being framed.

Vote: Surye


Explain to me like I'm 5. What is your role title, and what is it that you do?


Red from Pokemon. I can capture a player, and when I do, all actions directed at them target me, and they are roleblocked. I can relase them, and then they are not role blocked, and anything targetting them target them. While out, I can direct their actions. I can recall them again. Pokemon trainer.

Did that honestly require a vote? Ive been happy to address any questions. So if you were not using your vote to entice me to talk, do you think i am scum?


So this means Amrun was out of it's ball last night?


Missed this, saw it in my reread. Yes, she was. Her ability was a day ability, so she requested to be out. So the kill could have targeted me or her.
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:04 pm

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Steph is looking awful right now. At the end of the day yesterday he was busy calling people on his wagon idiot (without addressing anything), and refused to provide town with information, and even today is withholding it.

The lack of alignment flips is killing me. Town has little enough information as it is, to get down to 11 people and so little alignment information is making this game damn impossible for me. It's like day 1 over and over and over. ~_~
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 11:33 pm

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Steph claim your info. (I'll guess 2 Mafia, 2 Third Party, 7 Townies.)
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Thu May 19, 2011 1:11 am

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Charlie wrote:@Stephoscope: I'm guessing it's 3 Mafia? And 1 third party, the rest 7 Town?

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Guys. This game is rather confusing. My opinion is that Mafia Flips aren't really all Mafia flips. My guess is a Mafia Janitor painting all the kill flips red, or, more likely, a combined role like enabler janitor something-or-the-other-role-stuff.

Look at the
lynches
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Day 1 - Acronach - Garry Kasparov [from real life], Challenged Flavour Cop in Training. The reavealed wincon is that of Mafia.
Day 2 - Nobody Special - The Basilisk Ring [from Toto! The Wonderful Adventure], Master-Choosing Perfectionist Combined Poison Roleblock Enabler. The revealed wincon is that of Serial Killer.
Day 3 - Pine - Chopin [from Toto! The Wonderful Adventure], Basilisk Ring Possessor. The revealed wincon is that of Delusion, which seems likely to be a Survivor role.
Day 4 - Raivann appeared to be spared 1 death by lynch, leading to no flip.

All kills were flipped red. Those alingnment flip I think is unreliable.
Something to note: During Night 4 player No.25 suddenly appearified. This appears to be Raivann's doppleganger, who got offed during the same Night.

Now, I'm afraid I've got some unsettling news. I think Occult is going to have to claim in his next post. You may choose to fullclaim or just a partial one, but I think it is best for you to just claim what you're comfortable with.

@Occult: Your move.


Unvote


I applaud you finally giving something other than active lurking.

Vote: Stephoscope


If someone revealed the set up I might be inclined to unvote.
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I'm sure that makes sense in some way I'm not seeing.... but I'm not seeing how that makes any sense.
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Thu May 19, 2011 2:27 am

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Magua wrote:Why the hurry?


Because his play these last two days (hell, in reality more or less the whole game) and the way a wagon got pushed through quickly when he was under pressue makes his lynch so obv it’s not funny.

I don’t see any point in waiting to lynch more-or-less confirmed scum.

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Charlie’s 2292 is so much IIoA it’s not even funny. Welcome to the game Charlie. You just spent a large amount of wordage telling us something most of us knew after N1. Congrats on having most of your post be completely useless.

Charlie wrote:Now, I'm afraid I've got some unsettling news. I think Occult is going to have to claim in his next post. You may choose to fullclaim or just a partial one, but I think it is best for you to just claim what you're comfortable with.

@Occult: Your move.


This is the same Occult you yesterday said “couldn’t be anything but Town”, right?

Timing of soft investigation claim when Stephoscope is again under fire? Suspect.

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Surye wrote:Steph is looking awful right now. At the end of the day yesterday he was busy calling people on his wagon idiot (without addressing anything), and refused to provide town with information, and even today is withholding it.


Getting splinters by fence-sitting and waiting to see if Steph’s wagon continues to grow?

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C-Worl wrote:I applaud you finally giving something other than active lurking.

Vote: Stephoscope

If someone revealed the set up I might be inclined to unvote


You applaud Charlie for a post that was 95% noise?

Decide if you think Stephoscope is scum or not. Voting him for that reason is craptastic.
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Thu May 19, 2011 3:12 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
You applaud Charlie for a post that was 95% noise?

Decide if you think Stephoscope is scum or not. Voting him for that reason is craptastic.


It's more than what he's given and knowing Charlie's meta, that's probably the extent of him giving genuine effort. His active lurking's bad but he's at least trying to be more helpful than others.

Stephoscope however went from lurking, then once he got called out on it started this stupid setup deal to try and keep votes off him bc surely no one would vote him if he had some secret game breaking knowledge. If he had revealed the knowledge in the first place I would've given him a few townie points but instead he's with holding the information, if he has any, and distracting us by trying to induce large levels of setup speculation. It's worse than lurking because he's not only not helping town but he's also trying to distract town from helping itself. I do think Stephoscope is scum and until he provides this supposed information I'll assume he's making shit up. I fail to see any town motivation or intent behind his actions.
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I'm sure that makes sense in some way I'm not seeing.... but I'm not seeing how that makes any sense.
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Thu May 19, 2011 3:33 am

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MoI, let us just acknowledge that we're playing differently, in terms of style and level. You can say good stuff, but when LLD started suspecting you (IIRC, I should double check but wth) then she ends up NK-ed makes me wonder if you're responsible.
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