NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

[mastin2]

So, I realize that claim backfired horribly, but I really thought Gorilla was scum, and honestly believed he was fakeclaiming. It was to the point where I was sure there was no actual cop in the game. It really looked like Gorilla was gambiting on there being no counter-claim, gambiting that there was no cop. I legitimately believed that, so strongly, that I was positive I was doing the right thing in stopping him from getting away. And I thought that--even if I was wrong and if a cop existed--they were smart enough not to counter-claim and were letting me do their work for them.

Gorilla really did have to be scum. (Like Pine. >_<) And apparently because he's not, I suck this game and my gambit failed.

I'm obviously not the cop, but I'm not scum, either. I'm really

the doctor

. Now, I didn't claim to be a doctor because we already had a jailkeeper flip, and I thought you'd think I was fakeclaiming, because doctor's, like, the most stereotypical scum claim there is. More than that, claiming Doctor leaves me vulnerable, since I cannot self-protect. By claiming Cop, I make the scum think that if a doctor's alive, they'd be on me. And when I was reading the game just before I replaced in, I came up with the crazy idea that there WAS no Cop in the game, so that when I replaced in, I could be awesome and fake to be one.

Yeah, not the best play. Quite moronic of me, really, but I'm an impulsive player by nature and that's just what I do best: think of an idea--no matter how insane it seems to others--and stick to it until the end. It went horribly wrong, because I was COMPLETELY wrong about Gorilla, but I really am the Doc.

Lowell protected Singersigner Night One and Two. You can see this in his reads, if you look, that he looked favorably on Shift, who she replaced.

Then I came in. And I protected my own favorable reads. Tclaw was nights three and four. And last night, I protected Zepher, who's the only clear from Gorilla still alive.

And this is likely why there's that kill missing--the wolves wanted to take someone out who was confirmed not-mafia. So, yeah. Zepher's completely and totally confirmed town.

So, yes. I AM claiming responsibility for the lack of Wolf Kill. What does this mean? That I'm really a doctor, who did a bad move yet isn't scum. Got a better theory? It was the Werewolf kill that failed, so unless you think that I'm a wolf who intentionally no-killed in a One-in-a-million gambit to save my life, that does mean I stopped the kill.

So, I'm not a wolf. And since I went pretty hard agains T-Bone and Nacho, I'm not mafia, either.

So, put bluntly:

I'm not scum. I'm horrible town who was completely and totally wrong who did a huge gambit which failed, but town, nonetheless.

Oh, and in case it wasn't clear to you:

Zepher is

Completely

Confirmed Town, Now

.

What does that mean?

Well, that the wolves are within {Reckamonic, ConSpiracy, Tclaw}, of course. And I still think singer's Mafia, too.

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE COUNT

Day 6 Vote Count (#2)

mastin2 - 2 (Chronopie, Reckamonic)

Not voting - 6 (ConSpiracy, mastin2, singersigner, MrZepher, tclawren, Powerrox93)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch and 4 to No Lynch. Deadline is June 13th at 9:00 PM EDT.

[MrZepher]

THANK YOU.
UGH.

That's cool but now we're at a high potential to lose either a doc or a confirmed townie. (I'll explain in a sec)
I'm not going to count on making it to end game so it's time for scumhunt overdrive.

I personally think that Conspiracy is a wolf. Gut says so. I'll look into it shortly.

I believe Mastin's claim. If he were the last wolf, he wouldn't have much to gain in a no kill; at least not from what I can see. Especially coming into the day with ridiculous amounts of suspicion.
Really, those are the only players left: Those with mass amounts of suspicion and a Doc-Saved Townie apparently.

ALSO: Sorry I didn't appear yesterday/during the Gorilla madness. I'm not sure how I missed all of that completely.

Mastin needs rope and if it's 3-3 tomorrow will be at the very worst 3-1-1 (or 3-1, if scum decides to kill me )

Can you reword this?

[mastin2]

Vote: ConSpiracy

.

[Powerrox93]

VOTE: mastin2

[Powerrox93]

Mainly for the fact that he CC'd the real cop, buy also for unclaiming and then reclaim again

[Powerrox93]

Sorry for triple post but

@Mod: Prod on tclawren please.

It was 20 pages / 14 Days since hes latest post

[mastin2]

Power, you're town. I know that.

At this stage in the game, you need to start thinking about it.

Why was the Werewolves' kill missing last night?

I claimed responsibility for it. I claimed to have protected Zepher from death.

More than that, I cleared a player I had absolutely NO reason to clear if I was scum. As town, though, I had every reason to protect Zepher, so I did.

You need to understand that I also thought Gorilla was scum fakeclaiming, and was dead-set to stop him from getting away with it at all costs--I was wrong, but wrong != scum. I gambitted big time with a fakeclaim, but fakeclaims != scum all the time.

I'm a ripe mislynch for the wolves, right now, but I am not a wolf, myself.

[DemonHybrid]

I'll prod him, though I usually reset prod counts for each day. A rule will be changed to accompany prods after short days.

tclawren has been prodded.

[DemonHybrid]

A new rule has been implemented. Take note:

13a. Prod timers reset after each game day ends. However, I will respect a prod request if 2 quick game days go by without a post from a player (quick meaning less than 3 real days each).

Carry on.

[MrZepher]

The wagon on Mastin needs to stop.
There's not enough reasoning behind it, and we can't afford to lose more town than we're probably already going to lose.

Singer needs to get in here. Now.

[singersigner]

Oh hey.

What's up?

[MrZepher]

Nothing. You just need to start participating now

[ConSpiracy]

Soo... Why isn't mastin lynched, yet?

Vote: mastin2

[mastin2]

Because you should be, instead?

Come on. I want someone to raise their hand.
Anyone.
Raise your hand if you think ConSpiracy is town.
(*ConSpiracy slowly raises hand* Besides you, ConSpiracy. )

I dare you to.

You really can't, because ConSpiracy isn't.

Now, tell me. If I were scum, who would my buddy be?

Zepher, who I just cleared? Powerrox, who I've been calling town the whole game? Singer, who I've called Mafia the whole time? Tclaw, who I ALSO have been defending, since before tclaw claimed? Reckamonic, who would currently be my choice for number two?

Simply put, nobody makes sense as being my scumbuddy, because I'm not scum.

[mastin2]

ALSO,

I am at L-1

. Think of the speed of that wagon, and tell me you think it's all town. I effing DARE you to.

/Nothammering.

Important, since if I WERE scum, I'd self-hammer right now, end the day prematurely and cut off discussion so you can't find my buddy.

Since I'm not, I shall not hammer myself, as that'd be against my wincon.

[mastin2]

Put bluntly: While I made a mistake, I am not sccum. I am town, because there's no logical way to make me scum. Why would I counter-claim the cop as scum? I had no reason to. Especially since it'd guarantee my lynch today.

Why would I counter-claim the cop as town?

Since I didn't believe him to be the cop, of course. I had a darn-good reason to, and I legitimately thought it was right and therefore that I would not be lynched.

Gambiting scum MIGHT have CC'd if the claim came a day later. Gambiting town, on the other hand, didn't care about such things.

Look at my play.

Tell me that it's scum-motivated. Tell me that I'm a wolf.

Tell me that I pushed Nacho and T-Bone and magicaly nailed the other scumteam as a wolf, when as scum the proper play would've been to slowly push my reads, rather than forcefully shove them on others.

You'll find that my play names NO sense as scum.

[mastin2]

mastin2 - 4 (Chronopie, Reckamonic, Powerrox, ConSpiracy)
Funnily enough, both wolves are likely on my wagon, or soon to be. (Tclaw is the only one who hasn't posted, and very well may hammer me. Zepher knows I'm not lying about my Doc claim, and singer hasn't chimed in.)

Why?

Simple--because they're going after the easy mislynch. They're LAUGHING right now, going, "Thanks, Mastin, for getting us into lylo flawlessly!"

[ConSpiracy]

Zepher, I see you reading this game...
Vote so we can end the day with a werewolf rope.

[mastin2]

My vote on ConSpiracy is rather justified. I've been wrong this whole game about the wolves, sure. But I'm positive that ConSpiracy is one. Heck, I'm confident Reckamonic is one, too, because it makes so much sense.

And, hey. Let me put it this way:

Since I am a doctor, I--like Gorilla--can target Reckamonic, and if I don't die, Reckamonioc's scum. If I do die, well, then, tclaw's the replacement on the chopping block.

I am NOT going to let the town lose this game because of a failed gambit by me. Not when I finally--after having been wrong so long before--have it down.

[MrZepher]

I'm not voting Mastin. Town on the Mastin wagon would UNVOTE now.

There's too much to discuss today to end it this quickly.

[ConSpiracy]

I'm not voting Mastin. Town on the Mastin wagon would UNVOTE now.

There's too much to discuss today to end it this quickly.

Such as...

[mastin2]

And I'm pretty sure unless the wolves are moronic enough to kill singersigner, that they won't be getting rid of the Mafia during the night. Which means if we don't lynch a wolf today, WE LOSE.

That means it shouldn't be me who dies. I'll be dead soon enough. I'm a claimed doctor. ConSpiracy knows he's screwed because he knows I'm not lying. He KNOWS that my claim is legitimate, that I DID stop a kill on Zepher. You can see it with his buddying to Zepher. You can tell that he knows I am the Doctor, and you can tell he knows that I am a mislynch. It's written all over him.

[MrZepher]

Should*

This is completely scum driven right out of the night phase.
Also, town is fucked if Mastin really IS the doc and we lose a confirmed town tonight.

Mastin is a lynch for tomorrow should we decide it works out. IT'S NOT SMART FOR TODAY.

Vote: Conspiracy

[MrZepher]

I at least want to discuss before the day ends. Duh.