NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE COUNT

Day 6 Vote Count (#6)

mastin2 - 2 (Reckamonic, Powerrox93) L-3
ConSpiracy - 1 (mastin2)

Not voting - 5 (singersigner, Slaxx, Chronopie, MrZepher, ConSpiracy)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch and 4 to No Lynch. Deadline is June 13th at 9:00 PM EDT.

[Slaxx]

Because you fake claimed cop. That's always a good reason to lynch.

[singersigner]

My eyes are bleeding from this game.

[mastin2]

Also it's not a gambit. There's a mafia roleblocker and mastin got roleblocked. Gorilla claimed to have been roleblocked when he tried to investigate the PGO. See no reason for dead cop to lie. I'm like 95% sure that's what happened. Mastin failed to kill and then decided to claim doc. That is why he keeps saying he wouldn't gambit like this. He didn't intend for the no kill to happen.

No offense intended, but you're really being a moron, right now.

I was seen as confirmed scum as soon as Day Five ended.

What kind of Wolf in their right mind would send me to kill, KNOWING that there would probably be a roleblocker on me?

No, Slaxx. If there were a Mafia Roleblocker, and if I were a Wolf, I'd send my BUDDY to perform the kill, since nobody would have any idea who my buddy is.

(There's a reason nobody knows for sure who my buddy is:
Because I have none. )

[Slaxx]

Well then he got roleblocked. Point is I live in a tunnel and you are getting lynched today.

[Powerrox93]

My eyes are bleeding from this game.

QFT

And all I hear from mastin is this

[mastin2]

Because you fake claimed cop.

Explained multiple times why, and you KNOW it fits with my nature to pull a gambit like this as town.

I pulled a fakeclaim, fully intending to get Gorilla--my number one wolf read-- lynched.

If I were scum, tell me. JUST EFFING TELL ME. (No response of "WIFOM" this, "WIFOM" that.) Why would I do that? Seriously. I have yet to receive an answer. At all.

If I were town, tell me. Why WOULDN'T I do that?

[mastin2]

I could compile every single post I've made today, put together all my arguments in one place.

Then, compare to the counter-arguments.

I'd find that there's a lot other people are dodging, specifically avoiding addressing, because they know I'm right but are refusing to see it. So many of my points have been dodged, deflected, moved elsewhere, strawmanned, etc. Very few have been properly countered. Even those that have been, haven't had their re-counter countered. I think it'd be an interesting experiment to show just HOW much you guys are tunneling on me, that you ignore SO MUCH of what I've been saying.

Or I could, y'know, actually work on the case. I might throw in a Tclaw/Slaxx case, too, just to be sure, since they're also a possible wolf, even though I find them to be less likely.

[Slaxx]

Work on the case. It's kind of what we are waiting for.

[mastin2]

Alright.

Unfortunately not right now.

I have to leave.

You guys literally ate the two hours of my time I was planning to spend working on the case, wasting it instead on forcing me to defend myself.

[Slaxx]

I'm sorry. Take your time. I'm not voting until you get it up out of respect and because regardless of your alignment it's going o be content.

[MrZepher]

I skim off and on. It depends on whether I'm at work or not. It's terrible of me I know, I'm going back to read them. Sorry :\
Besides, I wouldn't keep wanting you to post the case if I had no intention of reading it.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.
If I had played 20 games with you and had been close friends with you I might know that.
I haven't and I don't. That's why I ignore that much of the case. I can't conclude that that is true.
For somebody who seems to deal in a lot of absolutes I would hope you'd understand that.

@Slaxx
If you presented a completely valid point, why would I sympathize against it?
With an arguments like that, it's really easy to get somebody into a corner they can't get out of. I don't like that.

[singersigner]

Did "I" kill who "I" was supposed to kill last night? There was only one death wasn't there? What does that mean?

Aren't there supposed to be at least two?

And don't you think it's in the mafia's best interest to shoot for werewolves at night? Why was there only one kill...

Did I miss something. >_>

[mastin2]

Zepher: Sorry, not quite understanding what you're saying in that post.

Singer: Everyone (myself included) believes you to be the last mafia, pretty much. To the point where it's practically confirmed, though I admire your refusal to admit it in thread.

I'm busy elsewhere for a while, but I will be resuming shortly.

[MrZepher]

I'm saying that you're using quite of bit of "It's not what I would do"
I'm saying, we don't know that that's not what you would do.
We can't exactly look and see what's in your head.

If we could take your word for how you would play as what alignment, then mafia wouldn't be much of a challenge.

[mastin2]

Well, quite frankly, it's not.

You can't exactly look into my head, so there's no way to know for SURE what I would and wouldn't do as scum...

...But you can look at my past games and get a general idea of what I do and don't do as scum. Or as both alignments, for that matter.

I have, like, twenty games finished. While not playing with me in 'em, you can kinda get the idea by looking at them.

(Sorry. I'm a bit incoherent right now, much to my chagrin. I'll be fixing it up shortly, but bear with me for a while until I wake myself up.)

[MrZepher]

I already explained to you my position on meta.

M00t point is m00t.

[singersigner]

Singer: Everyone (myself included) believes you to be the last mafia, pretty much. To the point where it's practically confirmed, though I admire your refusal to admit it in thread.

I guarantee you there's at least one other person who knows for a fact that I'm not the last mafia, so you'll excuse me if I continue to "refuse to admit it in thread."

I think you're overlooking the fact that if I were "confirmed" mafia right now, I'd be dead. Hands down. Why would the werewolves leave me alive? That's like, the worst idea ever...

I had several questions in that last post that you didn't answer. Please do so.

[Powerrox93]

Ok mastin, why are you using so much "look at my previous games"-reasons?

[mastin2]

Bad idea to answer when incoherent something that complicated, on my desktop rather than laptop.

[mastin2]

But I will answer later.

[DemonHybrid]

Chronopie has 14 hours to post or he will be replaced.

Just to let you guys know, I will be working like crazy all weekend. My schedule is 10-8 Saturday and Sunday with a break around 3 or 3:30 both days and I work 8-8 on Monday with a break at the same time. I will be on pseudo-V/LA, as I'm able to do vote-counts and do any day ends should it come to that when I'm not working but if I'm away for a few hours, don't fret. I'll get in contact with AGar to see if he'll watch the thread for me.

[Chronopie]

This is where I announce I'm still here, look back over the last few pages, don't notice anything that needs urgent commenting on, and then lurk for the next 48 hours or so.

Maybe once Mastin actually fronts up with the case he's been promising.

[DemonHybrid]

ConSpiracy has been prodded.

[Slaxx]

Prodvoid. Still waiting on mastin.