Open 305 - Faith + 1 [D6] [LYLO]

[Amrun]

I just realized that was the game I blacklisted you for, so if you read it, you would. Have known.

And yes, you misread that.

I am not explaining my read on zmuffin from yesterday because most of yesterday was a back and forth between me and him so my thought process is quite transparent.

This tells me that though you have read, you haven't read closely. I knew that. All ready from your fluffy replace in "analysis."

Day 2, zmuffin's thought processes have followed my own quite closely which is a huge towntell for me.

Quil has been less transparent, so: null at first because he was a non-entity, scummy for previously explained reasons, null leaning scummy because he disappeared and other people rose high enough to eclipse him on the scum list.

[Empking]

It's pretty ironic that you tell me to learn to read when you're totally wrong because you didn't read correctly yourself. Grey was directing it to Red. I proposed thhe voting bloc and Grey agreed but then wasn't here enough for it to be succesful. He chose Red; I wanted it to be on Quil on d1 and snake on d2.

I have been in games with town Emp where he led really poorly founded voting blocs with far skimpier reasoning. See chesskid's mini normal (complete) for reference. Therefore, I find his attack extremely hypocritical and don't think it's coming from a town perspective.

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? My problem was the insidious way you tried to wrest control of it from Grey. Especially when compounded with your proffessed suspicion of Red.

[zMuffinMan]

Requesting consideration is insidiously wresting control?

[Empking]

Requesting consideration is insidiously wresting control?

That's what it looked like.

[Amrun]

Requesting consideration is insidiously wresting control?

That's what it looked like.

That doesn't make sense. You have either woefully misinterpreted the second half of yesterday or are willfully misrepresented the situation. I think the latter is more likely, and only scum would do that.

[Ranmaru]

I just realized that was the game I blacklisted you for, so if you read it, you would. Have known.

And yes, you misread that.

I am not explaining my read on zmuffin from yesterday because most of yesterday was a back and forth between me and him so my thought process is quite transparent.

This tells me that though you have read, you haven't read closely. I knew that. All ready from your fluffy replace in "analysis."

Day 2, zmuffin's thought processes have followed my own quite closely which is a huge towntell for me.

Quil has been less transparent, so: null at first because he was a non-entity, scummy for previously explained reasons, null leaning scummy because he disappeared and other people rose high enough to eclipse him on the scum list.

So? I was busy. Didn't replace out, oh wells. I gave content here so drop it. Well he turned up town in that game, how does that make him scum here?

I wanted you to explain yourself, I have read just fine.

Ah ok thank you.

[Ranmaru]

Requesting consideration is insidiously wresting control?

That's what it looked like.

That doesn't make sense

. You have either woefully misinterpreted the second half of yesterday or are willfully misrepresented the situation. I think the latter is more likely, and only scum would do that.

Bolded, why not?

[Empking]

Requesting consideration is insidiously wresting control?

That's what it looked like.

That doesn't make sense. You have either woefully misinterpreted the second half of yesterday

In what way?

[Amrun]

I formed the voting bloc. Grey insisted on Red. I agreed, with the expectation that my reads would get more input the next day. He keppt voting red today when there were better alternatives, but I thought maybe he had a good reason, but I wanted to know if he thought snake was voteworthy as the nightkill somewhat implicated him. Grey replaced out.

People who ally generally share their reads and ask each other about reads. That's how it works.

If anyone wrested control, it was grey. In chesskid's game, you just declared a bunch of people town (including some scum) on like pg 1 for no reason and then demanded they switch votes with you. If the person who forms the bloc has the most power, it is impossible for me to wrest control. I didn't inetend that, though; I wanted a partnership, like grey and I had done informally in other games.

[Empking]

If anyone wrested control, it was grey. In chesskid's game, you just declared a bunch of people town (including some scum) on like pg 1 for no reason and then demanded they switch votes with you. If the person who forms the bloc has the most power, it is impossible for me to wrest control.

Grey had the power. You wanted the power in order to neuter Grey.

[Ranmaru]

If you wanted a partnership, why not ask Grey to hold hands instead of implementing a vote bloc? (Since you say you didn't intend to wrest control)

[Amrun]

If anyone wrested control, it was grey. In chesskid's game, you just declared a bunch of people town (including some scum) on like pg 1 for no reason and then demanded they switch votes with you. If the person who forms the bloc has the most power, it is impossible for me to wrest control.

Grey had the power. You wanted the power in order to neuter Grey.

What the hell are you talking about, seriously? Grey has been a non-entity in this game. His interest was clearly waning and I was hoping to revitalize it. I failed in this.

I had and still have more of a voice - ie power - in this game.

How you are coming to this wildly inaccurate conclusion I have no idea.

Ranmaru, is it possible that you are sniffing glue? Holding hands? Wtf?

Why would I need to wrest control when I already had it? Why would that be a scumtell anyway?

I know why grey replaced out of this game. The level of play is frustrating and I was hoping to keep some sanity.

[Ranmaru]

You said you wanted partnership. So you could just buddy with a town read, bam partnership. It's called holding hands. Of course, both of you would have to be wary of the other using the buddying to get into the town bloc. I hear it's a good tool. Some people don't like it.

[Amrun]

That's useless. Never heard of it. Voting bloc actually gets shit done, which is what I was interested in. I knew I wouldn't have to spell it out for him - if he had been really playing, anyway.

[Ranmaru]

Essentially it could be the same thing. Just not a OH HEY IM SITTING ON THIS GUY LETS ALL SIT ON HIM TO FORCE THE TOWN TO LYNCH EM OR NL. More like an alliance. Again, you said you wanted partnership > power. But your response doesn't sound like you REALLY wanted a partnership.

I don't think it is useless. A voting bloc can be useless if there are scum on it. In fact I think you are scum so I don't think the bloc would essentially work.

[Amrun]

But the voting bloc was two people. In fact, I called it a mini-bloc to distinguish. What I was proposing IS what you say I should have proposed, except I called it a mini voting bloc. You think we were going to force the town to lynch or nl with two votes? Yeah right.

The reason I only wanted me and grey was because I wasn't confident anyone else was town and I knew grey and I could be effective together.

[zMuffinMan]

Someone wanna refresh my memory as to what Amrun has done that's actually scummy?

As far as I can tell, Split was making a case on her (though I don't like the alignment part of the case), C-Worl is sheeping split, Empking thinks Amrun is scummy because of the voting bloc, and I can't actually figure out why Ranmaru thinks Amrun is scummy.

[C-Worl]

a slip is where you say something that you know but not supposed to know,

post 558 is just bullshit. hes using retarded and roles that are not in this game e.g rolecop etc.
there is one way you know that tragedy is a faith healer, the way is that if you are mafia and tragedy is not your partner. you forgot to mention that?

How would I know her role if she's not my partner and there is no rolecop?

[zMuffinMan]

I have a headache. My palm just hit my head so hard then it's not funny.

Do you seriously not understand why andrew thinks it's a slip?

I'll humour you, since I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

Two possibilities: Tragedy is scum, and lying, or Tragedy is town, and telling the truth. No VT is going to claim Faith Healer, maybe the cop would but that's still unlikely, so if she's town, she is the faith healer. andrew is implying you know she's town, and the only way you could have known that D1 is if you're scum.

It's a horrible argument, but this defense is just as bad.

[Tragedy]

a slip is where you say something that you know but not supposed to know,

post 558 is just bullshit. hes using retarded and roles that are not in this game e.g rolecop etc.
there is one way you know that tragedy is a faith healer, the way is that if you are mafia and tragedy is not your partner. you forgot to mention that?

How would I know her role if she's not my partner and there is no rolecop?

You can still just be a plain cop and investigate me as 'Town' or 'Not Town', but I will most likely get a verdict of 'Town'.

Then again, I wonder what that Cop has been cracking to investigate last night.

Then again, if I was town, then claiming as a Vanilla Townie is harder than a Faith Healer in this game.

[C-Worl]

I have a headache. My palm just hit my head so hard then it's not funny.

Do you seriously not understand why andrew thinks it's a slip?

I'll humour you, since I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

Two possibilities: Tragedy is scum, and lying, or Tragedy is town, and telling the truth. No VT is going to claim Faith Healer, maybe the cop would but that's still unlikely, so if she's town, she is the faith healer. andrew is implying you know she's town, and the only way you could have known that D1 is if you're scum.

It's a horrible argument, but this defense is just as bad.

U realize the bad defense is designed to make him out his horrible argument?

[zMuffinMan]

Yeah, no, we've already established it's a horrible argument and there's no real basis. You don't need to continually act like an idiot to "out" that.

Vote him already.

[Amrun]

a slip is where you say something that you know but not supposed to know,

post 558 is just bullshit. hes using retarded and roles that are not in this game e.g rolecop etc.
there is one way you know that tragedy is a faith healer, the way is that if you are mafia and tragedy is not your partner. you forgot to mention that?

How would I know her role if she's not my partner and there is no rolecop?

Because scum know who town is and town wouldn't claim faith healer as a lie, most likely. Derp.

Zmuff: splitfarvle is simply misguided, C-Worl is sheeping for no good reason and apprently dodging my questions, Empking is just opportunistic scum, and Ranmaru is like LOL DIDNT READ and thinks I'm scummy because I have a high post volume and he has comprehended 0 about this thread so far.

[C-Worl]

#59: No man, back off. Also explain why you voted him too.

was explained

#62: You should explain your muffin read further.

i did, you'll catch up eventually

#80: C-worl that sounds mighty fake mah man. You totally bought his reaction test? I think this may be scum trying to distance off of a townie. So if you flip scum, muffin may be town.

u realize it was designed to sound might fake and that it was highly sarcastic right???

#111: You are still wrong, man. Try to look at Ghostlin, Amrun, Tragedy.

keep reading you'll get there eventually

#121: Nah being a dick doesn’t mean you are scum. Scum can be nice too.

are u reading it all the way through or did u just stop right there?

#150: I think you read it wrong. That means he thinks the possibility is there, not that it means he is scum doing it. C-worl, what is your read on Amrun, Ghost, and Trag?

Considering Ghost flipped town, I'm voting for Amrun, and have buddied to Trag consistantly....

you really need to finish reading.

[C-Worl]

Yeah, no, we've already established it's a horrible argument and there's no real basis. You don't need to continually act like an idiot to "out" that.

Vote him already.

but my amrun wagon is shiny