NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

[Powerrox93]

Mastin's wall contains lots of rambling, rambling and quite some WIFOM-rambling.

@Cop CC gambit and such:
Did you SRSLY belive that this kind of game would only feature a way to get investigations on werewolves, but not on the mafia? It makes no sense that we cou,d only find who's werewolf but not who's mafia, the game would be so unbalanced if that was the truth, even if the werewolves has more PR's to compensate for that.

How come it's so hard for you guys to believe that a guy who thinks in an ABNORMAL way made an UNUSUAL conclusion?

See above

After all, Cop is the second-most-common scumclaim, right after "Doctor".

Link plz

I had every reason to protect Zepher. He really was my best choice. Everyone else (except for Chronopie who I had forgotten about) was out of the question as being kill options, and I impulsively followed the instinct that Zepher needed to live.

Further explenation on this thing pleaze

Do you really think that I'm a wolf who intentionally no-killed in a One-in-a-million gambit to save my life? Or can you accept for maybe a moment I stopped the kill...and the wolves know I did, and want me dead so they can try again.

Considering what gambits you took earlier I think it's plausible that you could've no-killed

We WILL lose the game if you lynch me.

If you are town (Which I'm now 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% you aren't), we will lose the game because of all your gambiting

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE COUNT

Day 6 Vote Count (#12)

mastin2 - 3 (Reckamonic, Powerrox93, ConSpiracy) L-2
ConSpiracy - 2 (mastin2, singersigner) L-3

Not voting - 3 (Slaxx, Chronopie, MrZepher)

Powerrox is V/LA from June 17-19.
ConSpiracy is V/LA from Monday until Monday, June 6th. A replacement may step in for him for the future.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch and 4 to No Lynch. Deadline is June 13th at 9:00 PM EDT.

[Reckamonic]

Well I'm not voting mastin.
At least not today.

Decision by Zepher made.

Also, Mastin's wall isn't difficult to read. Read it.

Obviously lynching your buddy isn't very pro-survival Zepher, but you're fucked regardless, so just go along with it why don't you?

[Reckamonic]

happy scumday btw.

[DemonHybrid]

Thanks ^^

[MrZepher]

Yeaaaahhhh

Vote: Reck

I'm pretty sure only scum would think I'm fucked.
Town won't know either way until mastin flips.

[singersigner]

Unless, you know, you're confirmed town and scum have no choice but to kill you tonight.

Just sayin.

[Slaxx]

Oh cool, I knew it was Zepher/mastin.

[mastin2]

Unless, you know, you're confirmed town and scum have no choice but to kill you tonight.

Just sayin.

Hey, Singer.

Zepher.

We need to decide on one of Reckamonic and ConSpiracy and vote there.

Not divide ourselves on two wagons.

[mastin2]

Almost forgot.

Spoiler: Responding to Powerrox

@Cop CC gambit and such:
Did you SRSLY belive that this kind of game would only feature a way to get investigations on werewolves, but not on the mafia?

Yeah.

I explained my logic for thinking about that before. It was specifically because I was so analytical that I came to the conclusion.

the game would be so unbalanced if that was the truth, even if the werewolves has more PR's to compensate for that.

I fail to see how. Asymmetrical Balance can be pulled off by a skilled Mod just as well as Symmetrical Balance. Wolf-Seer to counter stronger Wolf-PRs made perfect sense to me.

Cop Second-Most Common Fakeclaim: This is just common sense. Due to how most people start playing in Newbies, the two roles they are exposed to the most are...Cop, and Doctor. This carries over to their play elsewhere, where their first instinct is to fakeclaim one of those two roles.

Explanation on Zepher: It's in one of my posts. I'll see if I can track it down.

Considering what gambits you took earlier I think it's plausible that you could've no-killed

And then you're not listening. Not listening to Motive, not listening to Personality (which goes deeper than Meta), not listening to Meta (specifically, how things have gone for me as scum in past games, things out of my control: scumbuddies overriding me, in particular), not listening to me ranting about it being against my Win Con in multiple ways...

Flat-out not listening.

If you are town (Which I'm now 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% you aren't)

Ah, the sign of a tunneling townie. Puting anything higher than 95%.

Helpful hint, above 90% means you're in warning territory, where it's possible you're tunneling, but it's also possible that you've got a strong scumread.
95% is the limit to this, where you could have a really, REALLY strong scumread, but more than likely you're beginning to go into the tunnel.

More than 95% pretty much is your way of confirming what everyone else already knows:

"I'm tunneling on Mastin, badly."

99.manynines% is the ultimate expression of "I wouldn't care if this guy was cop-confirmed innocent; he's still scum to me!" level of tunneling. It's also the, "I don't have any other suspects, and I have no clue who his buddies are, but he's still scum!" level of tunneling.

In other words, it proves Power's town, but he's being a moron and might cost us the game if he doesn't see the light.

[singersigner]

Oh cool, I knew it was Zepher/mastin.

No.

[Slaxx]

Oh cool, I knew it was Zepher/mastin.

No.

Yup.

[MrZepher]

I'll vote conspiracy when he comes back.
I don't like putting votes on people when they're not here present to question the vote.
Personal preference.

Not going to comment on Slaxx because he's being dumb.

[Reckamonic]

Yeaaaahhhh

Vote: Reck

I'm pretty sure only scum would think I'm fucked.
Town won't know either way until mastin flips.

...
Mastin is the reason you are "confirmed town"
Mastin is gonna flip scum
Where's the hard math?

[MrZepher]

No I was thinking on different lines where if Mastin flips town I'm fucked because it's debatable that I'm town currently.

[Reckamonic]

If Mastin flips town you're confirmed town from all source but since the doc is dead you're quite fucked.
Further questions?

[MrZepher]

FUCK YOU RECK FOR BEING A SCUM BASTARD.

I'M AM COMPLETELY AWARE OF HOW COMPLETELY FUCKED I AM. YOU'RE SCUM FOR POINTING THAT OUT AND TRYING TO USE THAT AGAINST ME.
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT?

[Reckamonic]

I'm not trying to use anything against you, I'm asking you to vote Mastin. He's either your buddy, or decided to take you with him as he goes down.

If I'm wrong you become a WIFOM-storm for the scumteams and attract both kills, with any luck.
If I'm wrong Mastin should also go back to his textbooks about gambits.

[Reckamonic]

... Why am I even trying to reason with you, you won't vote Mastin because that's against your wincon.

Singer, look at them kittens and ask yourself "do these look like they wanna fool me?"
then vote Mastin after you conclude we cannot want bad stuff for this town.

[singersigner]

Singer, look at them kittens and ask yourself "do these look like they wanna fool me?"

*grumblegrumblegrumble*

I still don't think you're right, but...

unvote
vote: Mastin2

[Slaxx]

Alright. Mastin, I am hammering in a bit. Get what you have up.

[singersigner]

^He's scum, too.

[Slaxx]

^ No him

[Reckamonic]

considering Mastin's antagonizing I doubt Singer's scum.

[Slaxx]

I wasnt being serious. Idk who mafia is, but Werewolves are Zepher and Mastin. Kind of hoping the problem will resolve itself overnight.