The StarCraft II thread

[Nuwen]

Scout scout scout. Match their gas to their buildings. No gas, no/minimal buildings -> proxy rax or gates. Fast gas, no/minimal visible tech -> proxy sport with lab or sgate.

[Claus]

I know right? I actually realized they were going for a marine heavy build because of the no-gas, but I'm so paranoid with proxy pylons that I forgot terran can proxy rax also and didn't go after that stray scouting probe inside my base.

Lesson learned.

[xRECKONERx]

I can vaguely determine what kind of builds people are going for or what they'll be focusing on but I have no clue how to counter each one yet.

[kiwieagle]

Just bought starcraft 2!
Any tips?
Who should I be?
im thinking zerg due to almost everyone being terran....
is there a big learning curve?

[TheButtonmen]

I can vaguely determine what kind of builds people are going for or what they'll be focusing on but I have no clue how to counter each one yet.

In your level the counter is just build more stuff, getting the basics down so that your constantly making workers, expanding on time and constantly pumping out units will get you far further then any about of knowledge about "counters" or build orders will ever do.

[Moratorium]

Just bought starcraft 2!
Any tips?
Who should I be?
im thinking zerg due to almost everyone being terran....
is there a big learning curve?

If this is your first time with Starcraft, I'd recommend playing through the Single Player campaign.

[xRECKONERx]

Just bought starcraft 2!
Any tips?
Who should I be?
im thinking zerg due to almost everyone being terran....
is there a big learning curve?

Play around with all three races to see which one you like the most. I would recommend learning the absolute basics of each one and then playing about 5-10 custom games as each race against the AI to get a feel for them. I can tell you this much:

Terran are the most straight-forward. They feel the most "RTS"y of the three races. A lot of their strength comes from brute ground-force power... in the air, they aren't so great. Another feature special to Terran is some of their buildings have the ability to lift-off and move... so if you want to expand with another Command Center, you can just build it in your base then fly it to wherever you want when it's complete. Terran also start out with 11 supply instead of 10 like the other two races.

Protoss are a lot of fun. Warp technology is important in Protoss strategy. Building warp gates allows you to warp in ground forces anywhere on the map that there's a Pylon (Protoss energy structure). Stalkers can research "blink", an upgrade that lets your stalkers blink a few yards ahead to anywhere on the map. So if an opponent's base is walled off, you can just blink past it, or blink up the cliff, or something. Oh, and Protoss worker units "warp in" structures... so all you have to do is click to drop it, they warp it in, then you can go back to doing something else while the warp-in completes, which means you don't have units wrapped up in building stuff all the time.

Zerg are the most unique of the three. Rather than having specific structures to produce specific units, all of your units are spawned from larvae which are generated at your hatchery. When new larvae hatches, you choose whether or morph them into worker units or military units. Furthermore, your drones morph into the buildings you need, so when you build a building, you lose a worker. The only purpose of buildings, as Zerg, is to upgrade units or unlock new units. All the production is done by the hatchery. Zerg is also a lot more reactionary than the other races, so you have to kind of get a feel for what they're doing first before you start going for a certain strategy.


Overall, I'm most comfortable with Terran, I have the most fun with Protoss, and I'm very challenged by Zerg and would like to learn more.

[kiwieagle]

So excited to play! The thing is downloading . Gonna try out zerg first sounds like fun... I have played age of empires before, will that help the learning curve be shorter?

[UltimaAvalon]

I have played age of empires before, will that help the learning curve be shorter?

Not really

Watch This guy's videos, specifically his Newbie Tuesday videos, but even ones that dont say Newbie Tuesday have bits and ends that will help you grasp the game

[xRECKONERx]

That's like asking if playing CounterStrike will help you be better at Halo.

[kiwieagle]

Not "play better", but make you learn faster.

[xRECKONERx]

The only thing they have in common is that they're both RTS games

[Albert B. Rampage]

Any team want to play vs. me and Claus?

[xRECKONERx]

I'll be on this evening.

[xRECKONERx]

HEY JD ABOUT THIS FUCKING TOURNAMENT

[AGar]

I thought I totally /inned for that "We so bad" tournament.

[Morthas]

Morthas
861
Eu ;>

[JDodge]

HEY JD ABOUT THIS FUCKING TOURNAMENT

Yes, about this fucking tournament.

Here's the format that we think will work best:

Players randomly distributed into two divisions of 6 players each.

Everyone in a division plays everyone else in their division once in a best-of-1 matchup. Matches will have deadlines for play, it will be both players' responsibility to set up a time to play their individual matches. All replays must be submitted to me for casting purposes.

After the finishing of group play (which should take approx. 2 and a half weeks), bracket play will begin. The top 4 from each division will be seeded into bracket A to fight for the overall win. The remaining 4 players will be seeded into bracket B to fight for our amusement (and 9th, I guess). Bracket play will be best of 3 for the first two rounds, best of 5 for the finals, and take approximately 2 weeks.

The map pool will be the GSL map pool (because it has Bel'Shir Beach and Bel'Shir Beach is

fucking awesome

). That means the maps available for play will be the following:

• Bel'Shir Beach
  
• Crevasse
  
• Crossfire SE
  
• Dual Sight
  
• Metalopolis
  
• Tal'Darim Altar LE
  
• Terminus SE
  
• Xel'Naga Caverns
  
• Xel'Naga Fortress

Players will each be able to veto one map for all of their pool play matches (this will allow us to figure out the maps for all the match-ups ahead of time, thus allowing pool play to move on in a timely manner); after that, a map will be randomly selected from the non-vetoed maps for each match. In the bracket stage of the tournament, players will veto two maps per match-up; following that, the first map will be randomly selected from the remaining maps. After each round, the loser of the previous game selects the next map from the non-vetoed maps (maps cannot be played twice in one series).

Our current player list looks like this:

xRECKONERx (T)
ReaperCharlie (?)
Papa Zito (T)
gandalf5166 (T)
UltimaAvalon (T)
AGar (T)
DeathRowKitty (Z)
JDodge (R)
Flameaxe (P)
pickemgenius (P)
Moratorium (P)
Albert B. Rampage (?)

What does everyone think? Assuming everyone's still on board, we can start sometime this week.

[xRECKONERx]

ABR isn't ranked in 1v1, but he's Diamond in 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4. Does he qualify?

[Moratorium]

What does everyone think? Assuming everyone's still on board, we can start sometime this week.

Love it.

[xRECKONERx]

I thought I totally /inned for that "We so bad" tournament.

You did, you're on the list.

[Moratorium]

ABR isn't ranked in 1v1, but he's Diamond in 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4. Does he qualify?

We have to qualify?

[Claus]

That game was hilarious... Idra is insane... And ScumChat is not letting me in!

[Knight of Cydonia]

Only Idra would get so caught up in his own ego as to deliberately go down to the lower bracket just to snipe MC...

[kiwieagle]

Can I join even though I will get roflpwned?
When is it? if its like next saturday I think I would have been given enough time to get the basics