Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia (Game Over)

[Candle Jack]

FUCK WRONG ACCOUNT.

Unvote

[StevieT92]

Am I being dense on purpose? Why yes I am. I think claiming as one of the major characters is revealing enough information..my power becomes useless if people know what it is.

As far as not putting in effort? i've been scumhunting my heart out, and will continue to do so. I'm just sick of this consensus that either i am a noob or a scum. I know (mostly) what I am doing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't need to explain my town reads to you. I read Tajo as town, and you as a lesser town.

Actually, you're dropping into scum territory with these posts. Town has no reason to question why they aren't a town read.

[Iecerint]

I do if it looks like you're making shit up.

[vollkan]

And yeah, Rei's one of the 3 main characters, and an extremely popular one.

It's conceivable, if a longshot, that she could be scum, since she's a vessel for an Angel. She could also be a fakeclaim for someone like Kaworu, since they're both vessels for Angels, but he's a 3rd party one and she's pretty much town, albeit with blue and orange morality.

Also, nameclaim of a major character + refusal to fullclaim suggests a safeclaim.Though, Tar seems to think there is a good reason to unvote, so Stevie should NOT be hammered until Tar has elaborated.

[Starbuck]

Stevie, I've never watched this show. I signed up for this game because a bunch of awesome people I like to play with signed up.

You revealing your character does nothing for me.

I'm not playing this game using flavor. I'm playing it as a typical mafia game since I do not know the flavor.

[Candle Jack]

Sorry about the outburst above, REALLY need to think about likelihood of Rei being a safeclaim.

- Tar

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Doesn't even need to be a safeclaim, Tar.

The flavor means nothing in this game, and in the mod rule set, it directly states that nothing can be speculated about the setup from the role flavor.

[Candle Jack]

And yeah, Rei's one of the 3 main characters, and an extremely popular one.

It's conceivable, if a longshot, that she could be scum, since she's a vessel for an Angel. She could also be a fakeclaim for someone like Kaworu, since they're both vessels for Angels, but he's a 3rd party one and she's pretty much town, albeit with blue and orange morality.

Also, nameclaim of a major character + refusal to fullclaim suggests a safeclaim.Though, Tar seems to think there is a good reason to unvote, so Stevie should NOT be hammered until Tar has elaborated.

Note: Not a reason to believe so much as I've been reading through past Kdub games lately and tend to be very good at setup analysis.

I do, however, have my doubts that Rei would be used as a safeclaim.

- Tar

[Iecerint]

Reasons for Rei to be a safeclaim:
- "Scummiest" of the main characters.

Reasons for Rei to not be a safeclaim:
- Most popular of the main characters.

P-edit -- That is not really what it says. It says that the flavor will be drawn from all of the various Evangelion universes and then makes that claim on that basis:

E2) Flavor text in Role PMs and/or modscenes is purely for flavor purposes and does not necessarily contain any information about the setup unless it is explicitly stated that it pertains to the game. Any characters that appear in flavor text are not necessarily in the game or still alive at the time of the mod scene.
E3) Source material for this game comes from both the original Neon Genesis Evangelion anime series and movies, as well as the Rebuild of Evangelion movies. Flavor in this game may be taken from either source in cases where there is a conflict between the two, so no game-related information can be gained by analyzing the flavor in this manner.

[populartajo]

IM MORE ON THE SIDE THAT A SCUM WOULD HAVE FAKECLAIMED ALREADY, NOT ONLY ROLE BUT ALSO POWER, FLAVOR, ETC

BUT THEN IVE BEEN FOOLED BEFORE

[populartajo]

Am I being dense on purpose? Why yes I am. I think claiming as one of the major characters is revealing enough information..my power becomes useless if people know what it is.

As far as not putting in effort? i've been scumhunting my heart out, and will continue to do so. I'm just sick of this consensus that either i am a noob or a scum. I know (mostly) what I am doing.

OK

I SAY LET THIS MAN ALIVE FOR A NIGHT

TOMORROW YOU CLAIM THIS AWESOME POWER ROLE YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU DID WITH IT, PRETTY SURE WE HAVE WAYS TO TEST THIS

NOT THAT WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH SUSPECTS

HINT: HERBOFTHEBRUSHES

[populartajo]

*DREWOFTHERUSHES

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #16

Amrun (0)

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Kawaii (0)

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GreyICE (2)

- malthusis, StevieT92

Antifinity (0)

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Candle Jack (0)

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populartajo (0)

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Iecerint (0)

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Nocmen (3)

- LobsterCatapult, ace5993, Kast

Surye (0)

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Celebloki (0)

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malthusis (0)

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Starbuck (0)

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ace5993 (0)

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drewoftherushes (1)

- populartajo

ZeL1nK (0)

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StevieT92 (10)

- vollkan, GhostWriter, Pomegranate, GreyICE, ZeL1nK, Nocmen, Antifinity, drewoftherushes, Lady Lambdadelta, Starbuck

GhostWriter (0)

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SpyreX (0)

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Kast (1)

- Surye

vollkan (0)

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Pomegranate (0)

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LobsterCatapult (1)

- Amrun

Lady Lambdadelta (1)

- Celebloki

No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (4)

- Kawaii, Iecerint, SpyreX, Candle Jack

23 votes available, 12 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is July 18, ~ 10 am PDT

[Amrun]

Outguess the mod trolol

Don't lynch or not lynch on the basis of a nameclaim.

Stevie shouldn't be lynched but it's not because he claimed Rei.

P-edit: you should probs make sure stevie agrees to that plan, just saiyan

[populartajo]

HE HAS BASICALLY CLAIMED POWER ROLE

HE IS EITHER SCUM FAKECLAIMING OR TOWN TELLING THE TRUTH

PRETTY SURE A NIGHT IS ENOUGH TO GET AT LEAST MORE INFO ABOUT THIS

ITS JUST THAT I DONT SEE SCUM REFUSING TO CLAIM WHEN PEOPLE HAVE OUTLINED THAT THAT GETS YOU LYNCHED AND YOU KNOW HOW SCUMBAGS HATE LYNCHES AND THATS A SLIPPERY SLOPE BUT W/E

[LobsterCatapult]

@LLD by rolefishing i meant not flavor, but to be honest i missed stevies post when he responded to GW.

i think speculating over whether rei is a safeclaim or not based on anything beside's stevie's play may make us overthink things. putting the most popular character as a safeclaim is something that has been done before in games ive played.

i'm thinking if stevie agrees to tajo's agreement, and if he is scum, it could just end in him claiming he was roleblocked the next day. or the same could happen if he is town. i dont see how letting him live a night will automatically clear or not clear him of suspicious depending on his night action.

im contemplating leaning town on stevie's claim. I think scum would have claimed some sort of role by now, esp to fish out another role

[Amrun]

Lobster wagon has cookies.

[ace5993]

Yeah lynching a Rei claim day 1 is dumb. I don't think you need to go into intense setup speculation to figure out that lynching a claim of the most popular character in the source material right at the start of the game is stupid. He shouldn't claim his ability right now if scum knowing the ability lessens it's effect.

[populartajo]

VOTE: LOBSTER

[StevieT92]

I will explain my whole role and exactly why i refuse to claim today tomorrow. That is reasonable.

[vollkan]

IM MORE ON THE SIDE THAT A SCUM WOULD HAVE FAKECLAIMED ALREADY, NOT ONLY ROLE BUT ALSO POWER, FLAVOR, ETC

BUT THEN IVE BEEN FOOLED BEFORE

Good point...if it was a safeclaim, I'd expect that he would have been more gung-ho about claiming.

I will explain my whole role and exactly why i refuse to claim today tomorrow. That is reasonable.

Okay.

Unvote

[Candle Jack]

Doesn't even need to be a safeclaim, Tar.

The flavor means nothing in this game, and in the mod rule set, it directly states that nothing can be speculated about the setup from the role flavor.

Kdub's Star Wars and Square Enix: the Outsiders, at least, had the same clauses, and the thought process I'm using would have worked quite well in the former (possible exception: Chewbacca in Star Wars... but only a possible exception) and doesn't apply to the latter.

Besides, Stevie has added on a power softclaim, and past experience suggests that IS town reasoning for not claiming (should have dropped it earlier, Stevie).

Let me recalibrate my scumdar.

- Tar

[populartajo]

loobster, can you make a summary of the evolution of your stevie read?

[Nocmen]

I'm complacent with the claim for now.

Unvote