NY136: The Death of ReaperCharlie (GAME OVER, Town win!)

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:18 am

SensFan wrote:Platant prod response. Haven't had time for Scum in a couple days. Will catch up later today.

Sigh ...

do I even have to say "Kill it with Fire?"

And Shanba where the hell were you before I moved my vote?

Iecerint · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:09 am

Meransiel thinking his wagon was reasonable and null is crazy.

I am surprised at Hresz's DH vote. It makes me nervous.

Not sure why Shanba doesn't mention DH one way or another.

Meransiel · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:19 am

Hrezs's vote for DH makes sense. Many people would jump on rolefishing, so yeah, reasonable wagon. And if you look hard into it, the neighbors themselves started the wagon, and I don't want to lynch neighbors. Why should he?

Iecering throwing things around without purpose.

Iecerint · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:22 am

I thought your wagon was bad. And any wagon that gets that big on town has scums.

Hresz's behavior has special meaning for me because I suspect him, and I'm reflecting on whoever's question from earlier about Parama v. DH.

Meransiel · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:35 am

Iecerint wrote:Hresz's behavior has special meaning for me because I suspect him, and I'm reflecting on whoever's question from earlier about Parama v. DH.

So basically when you're analyzing his posts your point of view is biased, you're saying here?

Iecerint · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:01 am

Well, yeah, having reads on a player obviously affects how the posts are interpreted...

Meransiel · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:06 am

Hrezs had only 4 posts, and they've all been composed purely of scumhunting. I don't see the point.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:48 am

DemonHybrid wrote:I'm back. I'm going to read up and post responses and general thoughts in a few hours.

Strike 1 - Failure to actually provide said promised content. It's been over 24 hours since this post. A few hours indeed.

Strike 2 - While avoiding this thread like the plague you've managed at least 50 other posts all over MS in various places. Blah blah blah about time required.

More DemonHybrid votes please!!!

@Parama and/or Kondi - has DemonHybrid made any posts in the Neighbor QT since Monday at 10:00am EST?

Meransiel · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:30 am

Oh, great catch. I'd like to hear from Parama too.

Amrun · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:22 am

VC1.7

(5) DemonHybrid - saporovirus, PBuG, Iecerint, MagnaofIllusion, Hrezs
(0) Earworm
(0) Snow White
(0) Iecerint
(0) saporovirus
(2) Parama - MrBuddyLee, petroleumjelly
(3) AlmasterGM - Yosarian2, Hydra, Meransiel
(0) Hrezs
(0) PBuG
(1) Meransiel - DemonHybrid
(0) MrBuddyLee
(0) petroleumjelly
(0) Yosarian2
(0) Shanba
(2) SensFan - earworm, Shanba
(2) Hydra - AlmasterGM, SensFan
(2) MagnaofIllusion - Parama, kondi2424
(0) Kondi2424

Not Voting: Snow White

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

V/LA: Parama

Deadline: Tuesday, July 5, 11pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

If there are any mistakes, please let me know.

Last night, Hrezs, Shanba, and SensFan were prodded and I fell asleep in the middle of a votecount.

Today, kondi2424 and Snow White are being prodded.

Merensial, you never notified me of possibly having to replace out, and you may ABSOLUTELY NOT contact your replacement in any way if you do so.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:36 am

Ugh I'm so demotivated to read this game for some reason. I don't know why. Here's my notes on like 2-3 pages ...I'll try and suck it up and read the rest this evening.

Yosarian 233 - Without walling...I disagree, and my opinion will be proven correct when one of the neighbors flips scum. And then you will be the scummy one by your own logic ("Scum are pushing neighbor-scum because they know they are all town" --> Scum are pushing all town neighbors because they know one is scum). But for now, I don't care.

Meransiel 242 - You immediately jump to say you "didn't defend Snow White" when that wasn't the function of my original argument at all (and the argument itself was extremely minor anyway). This is suspicious prima facie, but it also makes me think you are buddies.

Do you have a scumread on Yosarian2? You say that calling the neighborhood all town is bad, and that's what he's doing.

In general, your defense isn't compelling to me. I think your null read on me is fabricated, as are many of your other reads.

Hydra 258 - "1. I know you started it - that's part of the scumtell." ...I don't even know what to say to any of this. Okay.

Looking back the "some reason" why I feel demotivated is probably the idiocy of that post.

earworm · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:31 am

@Iecerint: who else besides DH and Hresz do you suspect and why?

MagnaofIllusion wrote:
SensFan wrote:Platant prod response. Haven't had time for Scum in a couple days. Will catch up later today.

Sigh ...

do I even have to say "Kill it with Fire?"

And Shanba where the hell were you before I moved my vote?

You could move it back you know.

@Mod: v/la 30th-3rd

Meransiel · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:16 am

@mod: dude, post 222.

Meransiel · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:17 am

@Almaster: I explained why I have a null read on you, and why I have a town read on Yos.

kondi2424 · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:27 pm

MagnaofIllusion wrote:
@Parama and/or Kondi - has DemonHybrid made any posts in the Neighbor QT since Monday at 10:00am EST?

No one has posted in there since Friday. -_-

Amrun · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:45 pm

Meransiel wrote:
@mod: dude, post 222.

There is nothing I can do with post 222. Please PM me the circumstances.

Iecerint · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:36 pm

earworm wrote:@Iecerint: who else besides DH and Hresz do you suspect and why?

Basically no one. This game has town reads and null reads to me.

I agree with what people are saying about AGM, but then his actual posts end up reading town to me much of the time, so I'm ambivalent.

saporovirus · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:03 pm

I'm not seeing this Hzres thing, Iec.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:32 pm

@AGM

– In reviewing your ISO per my conversation with Hydra I noticed I didn’t see that you had answered the following question by Earworm. Please do so in your next post –

@AGM: why are you slamming Hydra for not signing their posts when you aren't signing them as part of Final Destination in [REDACTED]?

--

Attention Town

– The deadline for lynch is less than a week away. At this point we really need to make a move to make sure we don’t have to make a deadline panic lynch. If you are on a wagon of less than 3 players or not voting you are doing it wrong as Town at this juncture. The following players need to move to a more viable wagon immediately –

(2) Parama - MrBuddyLee, petroleumjelly
(1) Meransiel - DemonHybrid
(2) SensFan - earworm, Shanba
(2) Hydra - AlmasterGM, SensFan
(2) MagnaofIllusion - Parama, kondi2424
(0) Kondi2424

Not Voting: Snow White

--

Earworm wrote:You could move it back you know

Unless there is some sort of surge in Sensfan votes that is unlikely to happen. The Sensfan wagon is just too far from being viable at this stage.

I do invite you to review DH and join me on his wagon.

--

Kondi wrote:No one has posted in there since Friday. -_-

So since your Neighbors have abandoned talking to you I have to ask –

Who are your own suspects as scum? Please list your Top three with a quick reason why.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:02 pm

AlmasterGM wrote:
Yosarian 233 - Without walling...I disagree, and my opinion will be proven correct when one of the neighbors flips scum. And then you will be the scummy one by your own logic ("Scum are pushing neighbor-scum because they know they are all town" --> Scum are pushing all town neighbors because they know one is scum). But for now, I don't care.

The difference is, is that you are jumping to conclusions for no apparent reason, which is scummy since there's a possible scum motive for doing so and no obvious reason a townie would jump to that conclusion, while I am simply not coming to any conclusion on the subject without information.

Anyway, if you're that sure that one of the neighbors is scum, then why aren't you voting any of them, and instead are still keeping on your start of day 1 "hydra should sign his posts" vote?

earworm · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:07 pm

MoI wrote:Unless there is some sort of surge in Sensfan votes that is unlikely to happen. The Sensfan wagon is just too far from being viable at this stage.

I do invite you to review DH and join me on his wagon.

...I guess your right.

I appreciate your invite to the wagon but DH isn't as scummy as AGM to me. Frankly I'd rather wagon Parama than DH.

I was going to wait till we got responses from DH and AGM to do this, but they are being really fucking slow with their catch ups.

VOTE: AGM

Shanba · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:42 pm

AGM wrote:
Ugh I'm so demotivated to read this game for some reason. I don't know why. Here's my notes on like 2-3 pages ...I'll try and suck it up and read the rest this evening.

Echoes of that game ether modded (was yos in it? Don't recall. Vague references ftw.) Does anyone know if AGM prefers being scum or town? Either way, demotivation is scummy (for reals).

I didn't mention DemonHybrid cause I have nothing to say on the subject. I'm not entirely sure why he's being wagoned anyway. Some semantics game or other. I really, really, really hate the whole "ONE OF THE NEIGHBOURS MUST BE SCUM" idea. I mean, there's good odds just cause pick any group of 3 and you have decent odds, but he's not particularly scummier than anyone else in the game.

((The best neighbourhoods are when it's 1 mafia A, 1 mafia B and one SK and they all think the others are town, obviously.))

Unvote vote: AGM

I prefer a sens lynch but w/e.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:24 pm

If Sens doesn't start doing something soon, I could get behind a lurker wagon on him.

That being said, I'd rather lynch AGM, who I really think is scum.

Meransiel · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:02 pm

Sapo wrote:I'm not seeing this Hzres thing, Iec.[/sapo]

^

Mod wrote:There is nothing I can do with post 222. Please PM me the circumstances.

Now that you told me I can't PM my replacement, I won't replace out. I was just making fun of your limited memory span, because I am a mean and bitter man.

@Yos: The wagon on him is the largest, so nobody is stopping you.

petroleumjelly · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:20 pm

1.)

Don't particularly think AlmasterGM is scum. SensFan could easily be scum.

2.)

Not particularly interested in moving my vote simply because the deadline is in a week. That's pretty much another way of saying "Day One is half over." This game has only been going for a little longer than a week, so I am not all that inclined to limit my votes to two players who happened to have more than two votes at a particular point in time, as MagnaofIllusion has suggested.

3.)

For reference, these are things I want to hear from the neighbors:

->

a.)

What conversation has been had in the QT that has not been posted in-thread already?
->

b.)

I want a serious answer from Parama as to why he felt compelled to out the Neighborhood ("in fact, let me do it"), as paraphrased by Demon Hybrid in Post 133.
->

c.)

Why Parama thinks DemonHyrbid is Town.