Mini 1203: Set's Speed Mafia - Game Over.

[Beck]

I think it does matter if toast lied about the amount of games his played. Although it doesnt matter what happened in those games, in this game it seems he may be trying to pass himself off as a newbie, when this might not be the case. Why lie, was it simply a mistake or his he setting up a defence of im new here, incase things turn against him.

You do realize that, in this game, I have not lied about how many games I've played?

that is moot cause your credibility regarding your experience is shot. how do we know the truth?

we can't possibility know the truth, all we do know is at some point you have lied. Is it this game? is it that game? I personally can't trust your answer.

[Toast]

1. it means that you are expereinced enough to not have asked that question, which is why like I said you don't get an automatically town read like others are doing.

2. how do we know you lied in that game and are not lying now? I can't think of a single reason why you would need to lie about your experience in a game where you are town cop and when you replace in there is not a single vote on you.

the other theory could be you were telling the truth there and are lying now.

Fair points. There's nothing I can really do to prove I'm telling the truth now. On the flip side, you have no good reason to believe one way or the other.

[Beck]

OOOH wait a minute, I have something really good.

Mod, am I alowed to post a link to a mafia scum thread without being mod-killed?

[Toast]

The rules don't say anything about it, and if it's a mod-kill then I'm already fucked. Show me what you've got.

[rblinker123]

Yeah Toast, I have it all wrong, its coz of when Beck asked you about previous play, you told him about the one game, then later on you said you hadnt played, but you were referring to games on another site, i missed the word 'another' so fort you were saying you hadnt played when earlier you said you had, my bad, had it all wrong.

[Beck]

The rules don't say anything about it, and if it's a mod-kill then I'm already fucked. Show me what you've got.

This is your last chance to come clean

Rules also say mod can change the rules so I'll wait. It's pretty good

[Toast]

The rules don't say anything about it, and if it's a mod-kill then I'm already fucked. Show me what you've got.

This is your last chance to come clean

Rules also say mod can change the rules so I'll wait. It's pretty good

Come clean about what? I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be guilty of.
Also, if she changes the rules to say no linking I'll doubt she'll go back and kill everyone who posted links before she changed the rules.

[Beck]

Your lying about your experience. I have found a separate thread where you actually say you have played forum mafia.

You lied in 2 places?

[Toast]

Were they within a short time period of each other? Then yes, probalby. Was one after the other ended? Then I don't believe you and want to see what you're talking about

[Beck]

It's the same day but this one was in a signup thread. Who joins a large normal for the first time anyway?
Who lies in a sign up thread?

I'm not coming after you right now, once game starts I'm still going after my biggest scum read, I'm just showing that there could be more to your town slip and you should not be confirmed town until somebody can actually confirm it via their role or you flip if/when you get lynched/killed.

[Toast]

It's the same day but this one was in a signup thread. Who joins a large normal for the first time anyway?

I do

Who lies in a sign up thread?

I did

I'm not coming after you right now, once game starts I'm still going after my biggest scum read, I'm just showing that there could be more to your town slip and you should not be confirmed town until somebody can actually confirm it via their role or you flip if/when you get lynched/killed.

Fair enough, but:

until somebody can actually confirm it via their role

What makes you think there are other roles at all?

[Beck]

Normal mafia setups have to have town roles, it's part of the rules of a normal setup

[Twistedspoon]

OOOH wait a minute, I have something really good.

Mod, am I alowed to post a link to a mafia scum thread without being mod-killed?

i think so as long as it's not an ongoing game

sorry, I know that wasn't addressed to me

anyways, I go on V/LA now and hope to have read the whole thread before soon after I return

[Toast]

Normal mafia setups have to have town roles, it's part of the rules of a normal setup

Forgive me for my ignorance - could you give me a link to a description of the normal rules setup?

[Beck]

Well since he is saying he lied in a setup thread, no point in posting it.

P.edit - check page 1 or 2, I posted it during the jester nonsense.

[Twistedspoon]

Normal mafia setups have to have town roles, it's part of the rules of a normal setup

Forgive me for my ignorance - could you give me a link to a description of the normal rules setup?

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... ormal_game

[SensFan]

Well you are wrong on me so does that mean you are wrong on him?

Shrug

The fact that you keep insisting there's a chance that Toast is Scum isn't helping your case.

Questioning someone != Insisting they're scum

Did you purposefully or accidentally completely misquote me there? I never said he was insisting anyone was Scum.

[YankCane151]

Accidentally. Still doesn't change that Toast isn't confirmed town and that anyone who questions Toast shouldn't be treated as scum.

[SensFan]

Accidentally. Still doesn't change that Toast isn't confirmed town and that anyone who questions Toast shouldn't be treated as scum.

Toast is confirmed Town for the purposes of "There's not a chance in the world he's being lynched today or tomorrow."

[Toast]

Accidentally. Still doesn't change that Toast isn't confirmed town and that anyone who questions Toast shouldn't be treated as scum.

Toast is confirmed Town for the purposes of "There's not a chance in the world he's being lynched today or tomorrow."

While I appreciate how sure of my innocence you are I don't think it's good to ever say words like "confirmed" unless you're role-claiming cop. Saying "I say 'confirmed' but mean 'not really confirmed'" is not going to help people trust your judgements

[SensFan]

Accidentally. Still doesn't change that Toast isn't confirmed town and that anyone who questions Toast shouldn't be treated as scum.

Toast is confirmed Town for the purposes of "There's not a chance in the world he's being lynched today or tomorrow."

While I appreciate how sure of my innocence you are I don't think it's good to ever say words like "confirmed" unless you're role-claiming cop. Saying "I say 'confirmed' but mean 'not really confirmed'" is not going to help people trust your judgements

For my purposes, I know you are

confirmed

Town. The people I was talking to seem a little slow on the uptake, though, so I'm just simplifying it for them. They may not believe that you're Town, but I can hope that they can look at the numbers of people who do and realize that, at the very least, it's not productive to think about lynching you in the near future.

[Beck]

Accidentally. Still doesn't change that Toast isn't confirmed town and that anyone who questions Toast shouldn't be treated as scum.

Toast is confirmed Town for the purposes of "There's not a chance in the world he's being lynched today or tomorrow."

While I appreciate how sure of my innocence you are I don't think it's good to ever say words like "confirmed" unless you're role-claiming cop. Saying "I say 'confirmed' but mean 'not really confirmed'" is not going to help people trust your judgements

And since i have never heard of pre-game investigations, even if he was claiming cop there is no way he can do that

Besides he can't tell the 12 other people who we are and are not lynching.

[Beck]

Sens, are you confirming him based on the question he asked page 1?

[SensFan]

Besides he can't tell the 12 other people who we are and are not lynching.

You're right. But basic math should tell you that Toast isn't being lynched, if only because of the sheer volume of people who can see plainly that he's Town.

Sens, are you confirming him based on the question he asked page 1?

No, I'm confirming him based on my Mason PM that tells me he's Town.

[Beck]

lol what?

Remind me to never play with you again.