Mini 1203: Set's Speed Mafia - Game Over.
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YankCane151 Goon
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He's trying to cover his tracks by now saying oh, he did lie, and that we should get back to Beck and not him. Newsflash Ran and Sens: I don't think Beck is as scummy as you two are making him out to be.
Also guys, mod already said she won't be reading the stuff before the game starts, so you'll have to revote when it starts.Go Yankees and Miami Hurricanes-
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Beck Jack of All Trades
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and Sens, the fact remains when it all comes down to it, the general believe is scum, can't scum hunt.
you proved you can't scum hunt cause all you have done this game is say "OMG OMG HE IS SCUM, I AM NOT TELLING YOU WHY HE IS SCUM, JUST BELIEVE ME HE IS SCUM. OMG"
where I have pointed out specific things you have done, in addition to pointing out anything you say that is obviously scummy.
add that to the fact that YOU JUST LIED TO BEING A MASON AND ADMITTED IT.
there is ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE IN HELL ANYONE IS GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU.Beck =/= The band
Beck = a football player
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Toast Goon
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Toast wrote:Beck wrote:add that to the fact that YOU JUST LIED TO BEING A MASON AND ADMITTED IT.
I still want to know the motive. Why would he think I'd play along?
regardless of alignment, he was trying to get support for my lynch.Beck =/= The band
Beck = a football player
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Toast Goon
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Beck wrote:Toast wrote:Beck wrote:add that to the fact that YOU JUST LIED TO BEING A MASON AND ADMITTED IT.
I still want to know the motive. Why would he think I'd play along?
regardless of alignment, he was trying to get support for my lynch.
By lying and hoping I'd trust his judgement, even though I had repeatedly told him I want to hear his reasoning before I'd consider voting for you? That seems really dumb. There has to be some motive we're missing, nobody is that bad.-
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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Bingo! The motive was simple: GET YOU FUCKING IDIOTS TO STOP THINKING TOAST MIGHT BE SCUM.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Toast Goon
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Nobody thought I was scum. At worst, Beck was pressuring me really hard by asking me questions about my history, and Yank just said that it's silly to assume one way or the other.
Again, I see two options:
1) You're scum
2) You're deluded into thinking that other people respect your judgement so much that they'd play along with your badly-done gambit EVEN THOUGH you repeatedly refused to give me any justification for how you were so sure about Beck.-
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SensFan wrote:Bingo! The motive was simple: GET YOU FUCKING IDIOTS TO STOP THINKING TOAST MIGHT BE SCUM.
I don't trust people who lie. he lied about his experience. He admitted to it
What you considered a town slip came shortly after a jester claim. I took the question as a joke and not genuine.
Despite this lie you did, I still don't have toast as a town read
Nobody is confirmed town yet, but you are confirmed scum.
Thanks for playing.Beck =/= The band
Beck = a football player
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Guys.
GUYS.
Remember what I said:
Sens is town.
Toast is town.
Beck is town.
These things are still, even more, all true with maybe one caveat that is still minute.
Sens would have to be pants on head for a fake mason claim with NOT a partner. This leads to the only caveat I'll double check later: how many posts did Toast have AFTER sens claimed BEFORE he called it out.
That is minor because even if this was a tricksy gambit Toast wouldn't have even been willing to entertain the idea of him getting lynched first. Toast is town.
Now, as for Beck? Swallow the pride and look past the antagonism. Beck istrying. Not the "ohh hay I'm looking for little things to latch on to" but the "I'm looking for things that may pan out into something." Town.
So, stop. God in heaven, stop.
Now, I don't want to have to do an iso but lets make this apparent:
Ranmaru: 51 posts. Snipes and teaparty are about 90% of this. This is noise, most likely scum noise.
DBK admitting to fencing is..something. Definitely not what I would expect from normal fireball scum but it IS almost impossible to argue against it. The vote for Twisted really gets me though.
Cyberbob manages to be the most town with 4 posts. This is good.
This:
blinker wrote:Vote:SensFan
All the lying, false role claiming. His play just doesnt seem town, it certainly didn't help town. It had everyone all over the place. Now I think he's trying to explain his lying as he fucked up, he trying to get out of it.
is a scum vote.
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Toast Goon
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SpyreX wrote:
Sens would have to be pants on head for a fake mason claim with NOT a partner. This leads to the only caveat I'll double check later: how many posts did Toast have AFTER sens claimed BEFORE he called it out.
Why on earth would he make a fake mason claim and claiming that I'm his partner knowing full well that I do not trust his decision making? That's what I'm confused about. I had no reason to play along with him and he knew it.-
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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Alright, Spyrex. Since I trust your judgement, I'll bite.
If you see Beck as Town, how does that fit with the behaviour outlined in 197?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Lets put it this way:
If Sens had tried that I probably would have played along.
Regardless it is zero-gain, all-loss in every scenario but "Hey were both scum together but we'll do this and one of us can skate HUZZAH!"
Which isn't happening.
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It makes sense if you look at it crosseyed.
He doesn't care if HE looks town. However, he thinks you're trying (i.e. not naturally) town.
The second half is just flippant I'm not scum business, standard fair.-
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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SpyreX wrote:It makes sense if you look at it crosseyed.
He doesn't care if HE looks town. However, he thinks you're trying (i.e. not naturally) town.
The second half is just flippant I'm not scum business, standard fair.
Put the two halves together. If he's going around saying "I'm not Scum." "I'm Town." "Did I mention that I'm the Towniest Town ever?", then how does it make sense for the bulk of his case on me to be "Sens is trying too hard to look Town"?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Its a cognitive thing.
He's not saying "I'm the townies town that ever towned."
Its "Not scum, too bad for you bro."
More flippant that connected to the earlier.
Or so it appears. Mind you its the general ebb and flow of him that just has that eager little town vibe to it.-
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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Interesting. I'll have to give that some thought.
On Ran, though. Until you showed up, public mentality was to lynch me for claiming Mason. As Scum, wouldn't he feed that and try and get me lynched, rather than defend me?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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White knight?
Actually, since I'm gonna grab some dinner throw me a few ran quotes about that specifically. Something tells me he teeheed about it.
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Beck Jack of All Trades
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SpyreX wrote:Its a cognitive thing.
He's not saying "I'm the townies town that ever towned."
Its "Not scum, too bad for you bro."
More flippant that connected to the earlier.
This right here is 100% dead on balls accurateBeck =/= The band
Beck = a football player
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As scum, this makes no sense, it's suicide.
So I reluctantly concede(for now) Sens is probably town
I'm not sold as much on toast, but he is safe day 1
My play style is to generate reactions, in speed mafia especially, less time to talk, reactions are your biggest weapon.
I'm used to fast paced games, if I'm alive late in the game, my analysis will be much better. Once we get a scum flip, relationships become much clearer based on reactions.Beck =/= The band
Beck = a football player
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