This is a really DORCish catchup, wouldn’t you agree?
Using a makeshift points system to track my reads. No, it won’t set my vote in stone, but it helps. Positive is scummier, negative is townier. No more than one point per any one argument.
Page 12:
Iece
295 – Thanks for telling us which reasons you thought were good and which you thought were bad.
+1
.
Meran
296 – Narrowed it down? Didn’t kondi townslip? That’s no fault of your own, yet you seem to be saying you did some sort of work to “narrow it down”. Maybe a bit nitpicky but still.
+1
.
Meran
298 – This post is useless. No elaboration, just making random claims.
+1
.
Iece: +1; Total: 1
Meran: + 2; Total: 2
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Meran
302 – You’re both advocating your lynch and trying to halt an argument with an attacker. What is this abomination.
+1
.
Meran
308 – And thanks for telling us what townslip you WERE talking about. <_<
PJ
311:
a)
– I suitably answered that in
the post you quoted which is why I didn’t answer MBL specifically. Nice job taking my quote out of context, though.
+1
.
b)
– I perfectly stated my intentions. It was going to be a policy lynch BEFORE kondi made his post.
c)
– If you don’t like this answer, tough. It’s the truth.
I adequately answered all these questions, if you don’t like my answers, that’s your problem, not mine.
Meran
317 – “Oh hey someone made a decent length something-like-a-case on someone. Saying this will allow me to come back to this wagon later.” This is the feeling I get from this post, dunno about anyone else.
+1
.
Iece
319 – This is awful. “Nothing’s changed about my top scumspect. Let me change my vote.” “Everything was good, yes, except, hmm, the parts about me being… scummy.”
+1
.
Earworm
321 – Seems odd that, after doing something like this, you didn’t talk about if your DH read had changed or not, which begs the question… did it?
Iece
324 – You’re not voting your top scumread… sigh. This just always pisses me off.
Meran: +2; Total: 4
PJ: +1; Total: 1
Iece: +1; Total: 2
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Sapo
330 – If he was trying to keep attention away from the neighbors, why the hell would he want to out the neighborhood in the first place?
MBL
336 – Why did you vote me? What’s up with the random question? Do you still need me to answer that? Didn’t you realize I was on V/LA?
PJ
337 – Thanks for blatantly bandwagoning. Your reason for voting me, at that point in time, was akin to “I don’t think he adequately answered questions posed to him” even though my answers to everything were more than sufficient.
+1
.
Meran
338 – Something about the line “Also, can you remove your vote from me, given your stance?” is really bugging me… I remember a similar post in the previous few pages (no I will not read back to find it, screw you). Seems more self-interest than anything. Sirens are going off now.
+1
.
earworm
343 – Something about this post is giving off townvibes. I think it’s the way that earworm’s going about it – MBL’s vote hop makes no sense, as town or scum, and earworm’s trying to get information instead of attacking him for it. Or something like that. I can’t really put words but I now have another town read, yay!
-1
.
MBL
348 – Being replaced doesn’t change someone’s role… and while I do hate MoI’s playing style always and forever, I had legitimate reasons to suspect him. Not so much anymore, for obvious reasons, but.
PJ: +1; Total: 2
Meran: +1; Total: 5
earworm: -1; Total: -1
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God this page is like a theory battleground. That Meransiel is saying “Just because someone is attacking me doesn’t mean they’re scum” is giving off a slight towntell, because scum would have less incentive to say that than town would. Just FYI, Meran, in a 18p game, statistically, a wagon of 5 players will contain 1 scum, assuming there are 4 scum or more (which is almost a guarantee).
-1
.
Hydra
368 – Are you reading comprehension much? It’s already been explained several times why that’s a townslip, it IS a townslip or I’m a corpse in manhattan, and why does it sound kinda like you’re trying to discredit the almighty townslip?
+1
.
Shanba
374 – I wish you’d done more to show me why my attack was wrong, if you disagreed with it.
Meran: -1; Total: 4
Hydra: +1; Total: 1
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Iece
391 – If you don’t have scumreads, it’s probably time to reread. I mean that’s kinda what I’m doing sorta I guess? I don’t really like the nonchalant way Iece says this – “Oh hey guys I have 2 scum reads and no other scum reads, I’m not interested in finding any more scum reads right now either. Thanks!” Then again… technically limiting your pool of suspects closer to a lynch is a good thing… eh, I dunno. Something’s still bugging me but it may just be me.
And that’s literally it for this page. Wonderful.
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Oh hey, if I had read immediately, then I would’ve saved myself 10 pages of trouble <_<
Go me.
PJ
407 – This is practically the bible of false dichotomy. You seem intent on doing little more than chaining lynches.
+1
.
Hrezs
408 is just atrocious. Anyone paying attention would’ve seen that MoI put Sens in the actively scummy category, but I have a feeling Hrezs only read the lurker line, and only because he saw his name there.
+1
.
Frankly I don’t even understand why there was an AGM wagon at this point… and I just read the past few pages somewhat carefully, too.
MBL
414 – questions at me seem completely irrelevant and useless. Yosarian’s been null all game, can’t really think of anything noteworthy he’s done either way, and there’s no reason to give an opinion on AGM now… why did you ask these when you did?
Not a specific post that I want to point out but it’s like… as soon as people stopped pressuring Meran… he started acting way more townie and I like him a lot more now. Still doesn’t fully remove suspicion but we’ll see how it goes from here.
-1
.
PJ: +1; Total: 3
Hrezs: +1; Total: 1
Meran: -1; Total: 3
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DH
427 – On Iece: Scum would put in more effort? That seems… unlikely. Town care about lynching scum, scum don’t. Town have more reason to put effort into their posts. Unless this is some meta thing… and meta is crap so yeah.
DH
429 – Yos is the only genuine vote on your #2 scumpick? If you think people aren’t genuine in their votes… then you’re saying you think they’re lying… which means you should see the player they’re voting as townier because of… but still… what. Is this some sort of contradiction? Or me just reading things wrong? My mind hurts.
DH
433 – Then why the hell do you have him as a scum read? “AGM is probably scum, but he has lots of bad votes on him, so he’s probably town.” This is basically what you’re saying here…
+1
.
PJ
438 – No, that is not a valid reason. For starters, what have I done that a town neighbor wouldn’t do? Hint: The answer is nothing. And “influence kondi” who is the worst goddamn sheeper on the site? To influence that dude, all you’d need to say is “Vote kondi” and he’s like “OKAY VOTE: KONDI”. Oh and the neighborhood is absolutely dead and has been. There wasn’t a single post between 6/24 and 7/03. And both those posts were me.
MoI
439 – Goddammit, I wish he was still alive so I could hear elaboration on that first line. I’m not sure what he’s even implying there.
DH
448 – Eh, I’d be like “Nice to see you stepping through that revolving door twice” but AGM’s posts were pretty ehh. Not really lynchworthy because he does bring up some valid points but the general attitude is – OH WAIT HAHA I’M SUCH A HYPOCRITE
. Yeah no attitude generally isn’t a scumtell but the post is still kinda ehh. Eh. Uh.
DH: +1; Total: +1
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PJ
455 – “Those last few posts are indeed pretty bad.” You’re not going to go into a point-by-point like you do on everyone else? It’s like you’re saying “Eh I’ll support this mislynch because it won’t hurt me but I don’t want to put effort into pushing it in case people will suspect me for fueling a lynch wagon that already seemed likely.” Oh and yes that is different from trying to start a mislynch wagon, I’ll have you know.
+1
.
Meran
458 – Holy crap it’s like nobody is even TRYING to push this wagon, they all know it’s gonna go through, there’s no stopping it, and there’s no reason to put their lives on the line for it. I bet every single scum at least paid lip service to the AGM wagon.
+1
.
MBL
465 – If you’re going this route, you should just ask me what my reads on every player are <_<. Seriously, your questions seem to be getting more and more irrelevant every time you post.
DH
471 – Uh… town vibes I am getting.
-1
.
PJ: +1; Total: 4
Meran: +1; Total: 4
DH: -1; Total: 0
Page 20:
DH
476 – Don’t freaking speak for me and assume I was thinking the same things you were. I voted kondi because what sane town asks to be lynched? And then we later found out “the not-sane kind who doesn’t read their role PM right but manages to townslip as a result”.
+1
.
Mastin
480 – Just wondering but where did this mason theory come from? And where the hell did it go? I would +1 this but… for obvious reasons, that’s not going to happen.
PJ
494 – I just want to go back to this post again because it’s fun.
1.)
There’s a then again towards towniness overturning a then again towards scumminess. And I think I went over why MoI’s one thing was a fallacy
in a later post.
2.)
Again, tough luck. It’s the truth.
3.)
It actually seems like an excuse to have The Rule Of Threes in your post, thank you very much.
DH: +1; Total: 1
there's a reason I didn't want to post this until it was finished <_<
jerks.
.
