Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia (Game Over)

GreyICE · Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:13 am

25 players

Most likely setup:
4 Mafia
1 Traitor
1 SK

Could get odder, but 5+1 scum is rather intense. I'd expect the town to be nearly VT free at that point. Look at the roles:

Hider - cop that commits suicide
Honorable Vigilante - Either commits suicide or stops vigging when they hit town
Mason/Neighbor - god they're so much worse than masons it isn't even funny.

Not really town powerhouses.

So we've got 2 scum and the SK.

Most likely 11:3

ZeL1nK · Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:36 am

You're forgetting roleblocker and "unspecified" backup flips. There's only been one VT flip in 6 town deaths.

Nocmen · Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:09 am

Grey, we already had an SK die? Are you saying there is another? Or by 2 scum and the SK, do you mean those who are dead so far?

GhostWriter · Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:25 am

He's saying those are the ones dead so far.

StevieT92 · Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:33 pm

Last night I got a riddle from the mod..yeah tell me about it. I don't know what to make of it yet but I am also wary of posting the whole thing lest I get modkilled.

Amrun · Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:32 pm

I doubt you would be modkilled... Didn't the mod already say you could post the messages?

ace5993 · Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:05 pm

Finally up to date on events, still need to re-read some things that got sort of muddled in my mind but I am current. I can clarify one thing that happened while I was gone though:

ZeL1nK wrote:Anyone remember SpyreX D1? His mind was 'intruded'. Arael is the Angel that intruded Asuka's mind (side note: ironic fake-claim). Put two and two together, and it points to Spyrex being day copped D1. Another side note, re:#1166, this means their day cop is dead so not really a problem anymore. The question is, who was daycopped D2 and D3?

I got that PM way back during D2. Unfortunately I was V/LA at that point so I wasn't in the mindset to report it and deal with the conversation that it would have sparked back then before we knew what it was.

@Stevie - Do you have any possible solutions to the riddle? Or anything from it that seems paraphrasable and relevant? I actually doubt he'd be allowed to quote the whole thing verbatim but I guess there's no harm in asking.

Nocmen · Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:57 pm

Amrun wrote:I doubt you would be modkilled... Didn't the mod already say you could post the messages?

Why do you think he'd be able to post? Usually, anything from the mod is off limits in a direct quote. Unless you have a relation to the messages?

Iecerint · Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:40 pm

He should be able to paraphrase it.

Amrun · Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:15 am

Nocmen wrote:
Amrun wrote:I doubt you would be modkilled... Didn't the mod already say you could post the messages?

Why do you think he'd be able to post? Usually, anything from the mod is off limits in a direct quote. Unless you have a relation to the messages?

I thought the mod said he could, on the day we lynched spyrex because of stevie. Too busy to check, though.

Either way, stevie can give us more than what he gave.

GreyICE · Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:50 am

Vote : Stevie

Do not respond to this with any flavor wifom

His role claim SCREAMS Judas (Rei 2 = town, Rei 3 = scum) but at the end of the day flavor and role NEVER trumps play

Antifinity · Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:57 am

ace5993 wrote:Finally up to date on events, still need to re-read some things that got sort of muddled in my mind but I am current. I can clarify one thing that happened while I was gone though:

ZeL1nK wrote:Anyone remember SpyreX D1? His mind was 'intruded'. Arael is the Angel that intruded Asuka's mind (side note: ironic fake-claim). Put two and two together, and it points to Spyrex being day copped D1. Another side note, re:#1166, this means their day cop is dead so not really a problem anymore. The question is, who was daycopped D2 and D3?

I got that PM way back during D2. Unfortunately I was V/LA at that point so I wasn't in the mindset to report it and deal with the conversation that it would have sparked back then before we knew what it was.

@Stevie - Do you have any possible solutions to the riddle? Or anything from it that seems paraphrasable and relevant? I actually doubt he'd be allowed to quote the whole thing verbatim but I guess there's no harm in asking.

This seems really fake, just saying. I think I'm going to put my vote on you for now.

vote:ace5993

I'm sure no one will counter-claim you, since they haven't mentioned it yet, but you knew that too...

Iecerint · Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:20 am

It would appear to mean:

1. Ace is town.
2. Scum knows no one got it N2, Ace is scum.
3. Whoever got it N2 is dead, Ace is scum.

Iecerint · Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:20 am

D2, whatever*

GhostWriter · Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:33 am

While he's probably not scum, the messages he's receiving most certainly have something to do with scum. The fact that they all start the same way is most likely due to mod flavoring of the way you receive the messages, and doesn't stop it from being from scum. So, in essence, I couldn't give a shit what the hell it says, and you can stop telling them.

Iecerint · Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:39 am

GhostWriter wrote:While he's probably not scum, the messages he's receiving most certainly have something to do with scum. The fact that they all start the same way is most likely due to mod flavoring of the way you receive the messages, and doesn't stop it from being from scum. So, in essence, I couldn't give a shit what the hell it says, and you can stop telling them.

Huh?

GhostWriter · Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:42 am

Tl;dr: The messages Stevie gets are from scum (either he's scum and makes them up, or scum is using a power to send them to him), and I don't care to hear them anymore.

Iecerint · Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:55 am

Oh, I thought you were talking about Ace's claimed message receipt.

Celebloki · Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:03 am

Weren't we going to get a full claim out of Stevie on D2? I know we got caught up in other problems since then but I think we are still owed this.

GhostWriter · Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:06 am

Pretty sure we did...

Iecerint · Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:07 am

He claimed that his ability was that if he was killed, he would survive the first time. He said he was trying to draw the NK by breadcrumbing a powerful ability while being too scummy for protection.

Some players have speculated that he changes alignment after the first time he's killed, similar to how Rei 2 (the Rei at the start of Evangelion) gradually becomes more "human" as she learns about humanity from Shinji and everything, but Rei 3 is largely "reset" and remains more of a foreign, angel-y figure who ultimately causes Third Impact (albeit with Shinji).

Iecerint · Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:34 am

I suppose Celebloki's cluelessness can be a no-connection tell (+- WIFOM).

Iecerint · Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:35 am

Conspiracy, I guess, not WIFOM, but ye know.

Nocmen · Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:16 pm

So wait...an angel infestor, and an angel that only is produced when one is dead, is that what you are saying, Iece? I'm just doubting that, unsure that both roles would exist together.

Antifinity · Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:20 pm

Nocmen wrote:So wait...an angel infestor, and an angel that only is produced when one is dead, is that what you are saying, Iece? I'm just doubting that, unsure that both roles would exist together.

Consider that we have events randomly converting masons into angels, and (flavor speculation) the episode format. Also, note the minimal (or total absence of) night kills from scum. My personal theory is that most, of the scum are converted, rather than existing from the start. It's certainly an interesting but fair mechanic, and would explain the 'bastard' disclaimer. I'd suggest everyone read up on their character flavor, see if there is any reason they would/could become an angel. For the same reason, I still support a mass claim, even if only of character names. I'd especially like to know if we have a real Asuka.