[Mini 1208] Mafia in the Scarlet Monastery (Over)


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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:10 pm

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Vote Count 2.3

or "Well look who's playing at full speed."


11 players remain; 6 votes needed for a lynch.


Valern (3)
- xRECKONERx, BrianMcQueso, smargaret
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- Fate
Seacore (1)
- Valern
Fate (1)
- Friend

Yet to vote (5): Seacore, Hinduragi, Ellibereth, Starbuck, Parama
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:41 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:So Seacore is scum too?


Its what I've been saying.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:06 am

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Smargaret's right about how this night action/claim seems. Reck is obv fucking town from D1 meaning it's Valern.

Vote: Valern


Valern, let's pretend you aren't lying for a second. Did the person you hid behind claim Alliance or Horde?

Fate's still an idiot but that's to be expected when his reads are shit from almost the 2nd page. He's probtown from that one "hinducantreadme? OHNO" post.

Reck wrote:So Seacore is scum too?

Called it from D1.

Who the fuck roleblocked me?
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:26 am

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Ellibereth wrote:Valern
if you died what would you flip.


I'd flip my race/class I assume, but I don't know if my ability would show up in the lynch/nightkill scene when I die or not if that's what you're asking. I could ask the mod if you think it matters. *shrug*

xRECKONERx wrote:I do not buy that Fate is town. So I'll gladly reject your offer to accept it, but thanks.

Valern, what's your experience with WoW?


I played vanilla for about a year then quit around the time BC was getting mega-hyped because I didn't want to go through gearing/levelling my character all over again. That was a while back, but I log a few hours into a private server every once in a while still.

Seacore wrote:Yeah, comparing this game to Deadmines, if both Val and Reck are telling the truth, we may have lots of weaker roles rather than 3 strong roles.

That being said, there seem to be lots of "unlikely" things happening. No NK + Reck either hitting scum with his ability or hitting the one person that it won't work on. Unless Val was the NK target as well... but why would he be? I dunno, my gut reaction is to not believe Val, or at least not believe Val enough to stay the lynch. I just get suspicious when I see a lot of unlikely things happen in one go.

In other news, my bad on Kiwi. I was so sure that I was on to a winner there! That being said, I'm not totally unhappy about kiwi not being in end game. Val's lolcase on me makes him look guiltier in my eyes, but that's probably a little OMGUS creeping in. I'll wait until Elli has done his thing, not sure quite what he's doing but I'll refrain from commenting for now.

I've got a busy weekend ahead of me but I'll have a look over D1. I do have a small idea, and that is that maybe Fate and smargaret are scum together.
Fate was big on lynching Reck and then switched to lynch kiwi (which I was cheering about at the time) but then he jumped on smargaret about her vote on Reck. That to me seems a decent distancing action "How dare you! You are totally scum for that, trying to protect your scumbuddy Kiwi (who I know won't flip scum). ... Oh kiwi was town? Well my case on smargaret goes away..."

Meanwhile, Brian raises the "Fate and Reck and both town" argument
Reck replies that he disagrees
Smargaret then posts "One of Reck and Val must be scum" In a way continuing the discussion but swapping Fate out of the spotlight.

Anyway, that's it for me.


Of course you're ok with my lynch when I'm the main supporter of yours. :roll: I could have predicted this post pretty much word for word. I don't think he really believes what he says, either -- he says he doesn't believe me, ergo I'm scum, but in the same paragraph he considers that maybe there was no NK because I was targetted by scum, but why would I be targetted by scum if I
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scum like he claims to think I am if he disbelieves me, and why is he trying to twist this around as another reason to disbelieve me when he says himself the lack of NK probably doesn't even have anything to do with me? (and if he doesn't believe me, why isn't he voting me? Afraid to commit to town power mislynch?)

In fact the only way that paragraph even makes sense to me is if I read it from the perspective of "I know you're town but I'm going to say I disbelieve you anyway because I can't let you be confirmed". The wifoming just smacks to me of inside info.


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xRECKONERx wrote:So Seacore is scum too?


Its what I've been saying.


So why aren't you voting him...? Or anyone, for that matter?

Hinduragi wrote:[snip]Reck is obv fucking town from D1 meaning it's Valern.

[snip]

Valern, let's pretend you aren't lying for a second. Did the person you hid behind claim Alliance or Horde?


IDK, why don't you look it up yourself? :roll: There's no indication in my role PM that faction matters for my ability. And why are you turning this into a 1v1 thing when that's not what it is at all?

Hinduragi wrote:
Who the fuck roleblocked me?


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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:30 am

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If you aren't lying, Reck targeted the person you hid behind. Meaning we could have confirmed scum if you flip town. You didn't think about this. I wonder why? Oh wait, no need to answer: you're fakeclaiming.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:31 am

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I thinkn its time for a massclaim.

Valern lynch STILL full of fail
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:32 am

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Hindu/Smarg/Friend

Too easy?
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:36 am

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Hinduragi wrote:If you aren't lying, Reck targeted the person you hid behind. Meaning we could have confirmed scum if you flip town. You didn't think about this. I wonder why? Oh wait, no need to answer: you're fakeclaiming.


Um no?

He said his action FAILED when he tried to target ME, not the person I hid behind (which you'd know was Brian if you were actually paying attention and not just trying to push a power role lynch). Night actions targeting me do not get redirected to another person, they merely miss me entirely.

what is this i dont even



@Fate, why is Seacore not on your scumlist?
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:41 am

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Because Seacore is obvtown, you fucks are doing it SO WRONG
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:47 am

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Bleh, can't you at least give a reason? I don't see it at all. -.-

I'm totally hiding behind him N3 if he's not dead by then. And when I die that night you can fucking powerlynch him, m'kay?
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:51 am

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If it isn't obvious by now, I'm skimming.

And..WELP, I failed and had to check the wiki on it. Apparently Hider makes him kill-immune. I thought it redirected ALL actions....Double-fail.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:59 am

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That depends on the mod, though, Hinduragi. Some mods can make it so it's just the kill-immunity or redirect all the actions.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:17 am

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Rather than Fate give a reason for why I'm town, how about I hear at least one reason why I'm scum.

Val, I like to approach cases from all directions, so my comments on you were trying to address all possibilities, not the simultaneous you were scum + scum targeted you with the NK. I mean if you're scum you're probably lying about your hider ability, so why would I think both were true? That feels like a flail. Hey look people are mentioning seacore, so I'll jump to him.

I'll wait for Ellie to enlighten us about Val's answer to his question, but I'm leaning towards voting Val at this point.

Nobody wants to comment on my Fate/Smargaret theory? Not even to dismiss it?
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:21 am

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Hey look people are mentioning seacore, so I'll jump to him.


Speaking of things that feel like flails, nice misrep. I've been voting you since D1 and I think before anyone else started to suspect you.

But hey, it worked getting Kiwi lynched so why not try to do the same thing to me, amirite?
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:25 am

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Voting me since day 1.
Are you referring to placing a vote and then lurking for the rest of the day? Because that felt like a really passionate case you had on me there, filled with evidence and reasoning.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:32 am

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1- V/LA =! lurking. I'm somewhat unavailable most weekends due to a new job.

2- Just because I don't make a pretty 5000 word wall of post-by-post analysis doesn't mean I don't have a case on you. I've clearly stated more than enough reasons to have my vote on you throughout my posts.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:58 am

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Starbuck, start the massclaim.

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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:37 am

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We're not fucking massclaiming on D2.

Unvote; Vote: smargaret


Here we go smarglynch here we go.

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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:52 am

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RECL

Read on Starbuck, go.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:56 am

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I want to say town, instinctively, but she has the back of my mind freakin' out secretly
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:24 am

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Fate, how is a massclaim on D2 going to help us at all?

I'm still sticking with that there is scum in the group of smarg/seacore/kiwi. Kiwi is now eliminated and I'm starting to come around on Seacore, especially with his posts today.

Smarg, not so much.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:14 am

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If we were going to lynch hideer, id wan to MC

The fct I can't remember a single thing you've done made me immediately ask you to go first.

If were done lollynch valern, we can not MC and lynch scum
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:58 pm

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Will read all the stuff that isn't Valern's response first.

I'd flip my race/class I assume, but I don't know if my ability would show up in the lynch/nightkill scene when I die or not if that's what you're asking. I could ask the mod if you think it matters. *shrug*

Why wouldn't you have checked this earlier though??? If the ability isn't flipped, whatever breadcrumb or whatever you said you would be doing would be USELESS.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:07 pm

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Nitpickn who cares?
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:15 pm

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I actually like massclaim.
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