NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

[kanyeknowsbest]

actually, fuck it. im really not entirely convinced about a lambda lynch myself and i think its very unlikely mastin is scum gambitting with a bookie shot.

unvote vote ludi

shoot who you will idher. ill reassess my thoughts on you and elaborate tomorrow lambda.

[mastin2]

Explain Mastin(succinctly, one or two sentences preferably), why you two apparently have to be of opposing alignments.

1: VCA.
Ludi and I look the worst from it.

2: Neither one of our slots has any real town credit.

3: I believe Zepher is town.

4: Ludi is living, breathing scum, more so than even SpyreX.

5: If I were anyone outside of us two, I'd be saying our argument was not townVtown.

[Oversoul]

Ludi is L-1. Debating whether or not I want to hammer... *sigh* I hate making decisions like this. :\

I feel like LLD is scum given Saporo's play and her (LLD's) bad introduction into this game. But I also feel Ludi is scum. :\

[mastin2]

Nope, Ludi's at L-2. Ludi was at L-2 with you on. When you unvoted, Ludi went to L-3. Kayne going onto Ludi was L-2 again, and you're still off.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nope, Ludi's at L-2. Ludi was at L-2 with you on. When you unvoted, Ludi went to L-3. Kayne going onto Ludi was L-2 again, and you're still off.

I voted Ludi too.

Ludi is at L-1

[kanyeknowsbest]

ludi is def L-1. mastin, thoughts on lynch lambda vig ludi?

[Oversoul]

ludi is def L-1. mastin, thoughts on lynch lambda vig ludi?

I think I would prefer this to be honest.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ludi is def L-1. mastin, thoughts on lynch lambda vig ludi?

I think I would prefer this to be honest.

You'd rather lynch outside the 1v1?

[Oversoul]

ludi is def L-1. mastin, thoughts on lynch lambda vig ludi?

I think I would prefer this to be honest.

You'd rather lynch outside the 1v1?

I'd rather have your alignment immediately. if Idher kills Ludi it would be the same for Mastin's plan regardless. IMO, LLD has more connections that can be examined after her flip than Ludi. Ludi has... Mastin and Zepher. And Idher.

[SpyreX]

KKB you've went way off kilter here and lets play understand good:

If Ludi and Mastin are a potential scumteam whats the angle?

[kanyeknowsbest]

i think ludi mastin is a very unlikely scum team. the only reasons for his gambit in that scenario i can imagine are a bookie shot or hoping to get mega town points by lynching scum.

basically my problem is this: i think ludi scum is extremely likely. i think mastin town is extremely unlikely. the only way, then that you can remain town in my eyes is with lambda/zepher team as the remaining pair. it is this reasoning that has led me to desire lambda lynch ludi vig. i think these are two key flips that would make the game a lot easier to figure out tomorrow.

[kanyeknowsbest]

ebwop: mastin town is extremely *likely*

[SpyreX]

I just don't see Ludi scum is the probalo.

Of course the LLD-Zeph interaction makes me feel better about LLD BUT god we're running out of options that make sense.

Why couldnt YOU have been the vig? WHY.

The irritated part of me wants to hammer but no

[Oversoul]

Rather have LLD's flip now and then vig ludi. It accomplishes the same thing and then some.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SpyreX, that twitch you're getting? It's because I'm town.

[SpyreX]

And god damn oversouls getting me all paranoid now too I dont get it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And god damn oversouls getting me all paranoid now too I dont get it.

SpyreX, that twitch you're getting? It's because

I'm town

he's scum.

I'm confident about this now SpyreX. Oversoul's hop off of Ludi's wagon when mine flared up pretty much confirms he was bussing.

[kanyeknowsbest]

oversoul - he

believed

i was scum as hard as he could after the chair lynch until some point today. it (unfortunately) showed in his reactions to me elsewhere but thats.. well.

hes still town despite his terrible decisions since i voted lambda.

[kanyeknowsbest]

man, if he were scum though, that would make this shit a lot easier.

[Oversoul]

oversoul - he

believed

i was scum as hard as he could after the chair lynch until some point today. it (unfortunately) showed in his reactions to me elsewhere but thats.. well.

hes still town despite his terrible decisions since i voted lambda.

Why is everything I do bad... and you guys never tell me so I can get better.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oversoul - he

believed

i was scum as hard as he could after the chair lynch until some point today. it (unfortunately) showed in his reactions to me elsewhere but thats.. well.

hes still town despite his terrible decisions since i voted lambda.

Why is everything I do bad... and you guys never tell me so I can get better.

Well you can't really help it... you're scum this game.

But you can bus your buddy Ludi if you want to look more town?

[Magister Ludi]

consider the shit i wrote about koc above and that your interactions with mastin are just so scummy.

They're not at all. Nothing about them is more likely to come from scum than town, infact, all of them come from a town point of view.

but considering spyscum and the way he was convinced koc was town for little reason

You can't make alignment connections when neither of us has flipped and neither of us is probable scum.

and the fact that you say you think mastin is scum but you talk to him like hes town just makes it clear that you are scum scum scum.

This is just silly. I'm sitting here as town trying to figure out everybodies alignment. I don't know for a fact that anyone is confirmed any alignment until they flip, and to harp on about how someone is 'confirmed scum' is anti-town because you could be wrong and with disasterous results.

Still, I agree with what you said. I think that mastin is scum, but I still treat him like he is town, despite how much I think he is scum. Whats the problem here?

zepher - if ludi and zepher are scum then he has been bussing him since he replaced in. i doubt that. also his reaction to empking wagon. pretty shitty hes town but whatevs.

You need to explain this more, since I think this is a terrible explanation for why he is town. Consider I am town and then work a possibilty.

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You're using AtE a lot with your dealings with Mastin and it is pretty distracting. Also, you're wasting your time trying to scumhunt me, which is another reason why I suspect you, but more so LLD for that same offence.

No, it was basically one rant I put in spoiler because I specfically wanted to state my feelings without rampaging this game.

Why am I wasting my time trying to scumhunt you? I don't think you are confirmed town, so there is every possibility, and I think a high one at that, that you may be scum. Its never a waste.

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Actually... Oversoul was just on the Zepher wagon right?

...

Unvote; Vote: Ludi

Um, no, he was voting me for the entire day. What has oversoul unvoting got to do with anything?

Reasoning why you chose Ludi over Mastin?

I guess the same could be asked of you.

actually, fuck it. im really not entirely convinced about a lambda lynch myself and i think its very unlikely mastin is scum gambitting with a bookie shot.

unvote vote ludi

It doesn't even have to be that, though it could, it is the fact mastin has thrown down a one on one and tried to force it down the town's throat over an alleged piece of thoery that he himself was wrong on, and Everyone has taken up the crusade and followed it. I'm still not entirely sure why.

Nope, Ludi's at L-2. Ludi was at L-2 with you on. When you unvoted, Ludi went to L-3. Kayne going onto Ludi was L-2 again, and you're still off.

I feel that town mastin wouldn't make this error in judgment, me actually being at L-1 than L-2. Still, KKB, you can put your bookie thoery away, because if I was bookied and oversoul is scum, he could just hammer for the victory. Unless all the scum are already on me, but only mastin is, so no worries there.

You'd rather lynch outside the 1v1?

Um, yes? Why are you following mastins plan now when you voted oversoul all day?

If Ludi and Mastin are a potential scumteam whats the angle?

No way am I scum here, don't you start this too Spy!

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basically my problem is this: i think ludi scum is extremely likely. i think mastin town is extremely unlikely. the only way, then that you can remain town in my eyes is with lambda/zepher team as the remaining pair. it is this reasoning that has led me to desire lambda lynch ludi vig. i think these are two key flips that would make the game a lot easier to figure out tomorrow.

I'm saying this now, Kanye, I think you're town, and I think we're fucked. No way is LLD scum here, especially not with me. I do not know how specfically you can push that angle.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Ludi: Because my vote was being orphaned on Oversoul.

[Magister Ludi]

Mastin has so many inconsistences, I still don't know how anyone has a town read on him.

1.,

mastin is doing exactly the same thing with chairs mislynch as with mine, (all quotes mastin) Same language, same intent.

Yup. Chair is flailing scum at last minute. Like I said.

Your {Chair} continued pushing of a garbage-post for me to answer is confirmation you're scum.

Or are confirmed scum. Claim or die, Ludi.

05. Magister Ludi Knight of Cydonia (replaced out D3)
^Confirmed Scum.

2. Painting me as scummy for something he himself said he was going to do

Lynch Either me, or Ludi today, and if they flip town, the other one tomorrow, no excuses, no alternatives, one of us GUARANTEED

But in lylo, voting for myself would obviously be against me wincon, so if Ludi flips town, I'll be voting SpyreX tomorrow.

4: You're hoping that with me dead today, you'll be able to talk your way out of being lynched tomorrow.

3. Being on

every

town wagon.

[Magister Ludi]

At LLD, my question was, why bring up mastins idea of a 1v1 showdown when you switch your vote when your vote had been on oversoul all day and you had tolerated other wagons, when you could have switched your vote instead with the justification of 'I think he is the scummiest of all candidates'?