Open 324 - Ninja Mafia (End. No Drama, please!)

[CSL]

1.14

Mist7676 -[0]-
Tomie Uzumaki -[0]-
Ray Montano -[0]-
Cobblerfone -[1]- [Hikari Link]
killerjester -[0]-
BBmolla -[5]- [Kcdaspot, Empking, Mist7676, killerjester, hiplop] [L-5]
Descent -[0]-
hiplop -[5]- [projectmatt, Maruchan, zMuffinMan, BBmolla, Cobblerfone] [L-5]
Scumhunter -[0]-
cavjj -[1]- [Scumhunter]
Empking -[0]-
zMuffinMan -[0]-
Hikari Link -[0]-
projectmatt -[1]- [Ray Montano]
Quilford -[0]-
Maruchan -[1]- [Tomie Uzumaki]
Sundy -[0]-
Kcdaspot -[1]- [cavjj]

~cavjj was prodded
~Random word(s) of the day: Boom
~~With 18 alive, it will take 10 to lynch, 9 to no lynch
~~~The deadline is in (expired on 2011-09-04 20:00:00), or

September 4th, 2011 @ 7pm CDT

[Maruchan]

Sup?

vote molla plz.

Ignore him. Re-read and then chose who YOU Want to vote.

Don't be a sheep

[killerjester]

Unless you have ridiculous town reads on

both

hiplop and molla, we need some stragglers to pick a wagon. No one else is getting lynched today.

[Empking]

Unless you have ridiculous town reads on

both

hiplop and molla, we need some stragglers to pick a wagon. No one else is getting lynched today.

:goodposting:

[zMuffinMan]

srsly all the opponents of the molla lynch just says that case is bad w/o saying truly WHY.

I did say why: it's littered with confirmation bias. You're convinced BB is scum and therefore anything he says or does, you see as scummy.

Most of the points against him are really to do with his playstyle. Have a read of BB's ISO in newbie1117 and tell me what you think.

I don't have BB pegged as town by any means, but I'm far more confident hiplop is scum.

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hiplop still scum at the bottom of p17. People are ignoring this. That is not a good sign.

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Fucks sake. The catch up process in this game becomes more and omre an uphill battle the longer I delay it

QFT

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Where are those explanations for the reads that you promised yesterday?

They're V/LA, vacationing in Hawaii. I could ask them to pay a visit to this thread, but I don't think they'd appreciate that.

I explained my hiplop read, I'll explain my town reads if I need to but I'm not clogging up the thread writing a wall when none of them are up for lynching.

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.... anddddddddd hiplop continuing to be scum on p18, and people are still ignoring this.

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What does everyone think?

I like the follow the watcher/tracker options.

"Hi, I tracked

X

and he went nowhere."
"OK, what now?"
"Wait a minute... This isn't as good an idea as I thought it was."

The setup is a modified version of the F11 newbie setups. They're about as 'breakable' as the old newbie setups were (i.e. not prior to scumPR flips). If, for example, a scum roleblocker is lynched, then a cop could claim for gamebreaking winningness (cop would know it's cop+doc and he's unblockable <- basically what happened the last time this setup was run).

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Don't even talk about breaking the setup. You WILL be modkilled. Consider this your warning.

Pretty sure CSL just basically said Quilford is town. This game is easy.

[chkflip]

If it's got to be hiplop or BBmolla, I'd say hiplop is the better choice after reading their ISO's.

I'll have to read the game in full, though, so my opinion isn't jaded in any way. Expect a catch-up post sooner than later.

PEDIT: How do you get that from CSL's warning?

[CSL]

Whether he's scum or not, he would still have received the warning.

[Maruchan]

I knew I was going to like playing with muffinman again

[Kcdaspot]

@muffin: i think meta is a terrible arguement...

I also think he's doing WORSE here than in that game.

why do you think that is?

[zMuffinMan]

How do you get that from CSL's warning?

What's more likely?

CSL going "oh shit, a townie is trying to break this setup, I should stop him" or CSL going "oh look, scum pretending to be town trying to break this setup, I should warn him not to do it"?

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i think meta is a terrible arguement...

No, point isn't that he's playing to his town meta, point is that he plays that way regardless of alignment, and a lot of your argument for him being scum comes down to his playstyle more than anything.

Did you actually read that game, btw?

[Maruchan]

Kcda? Read the game? lolno. He just pushes on any person he feels might get lynched

[Quilford]

^_____________^

Exactly the reactions I wanted. Hopefully I can pull some decent analysis out of them.

[zMuffinMan]

It's apparently against the rules to outguess the mod.

mah bad

[Mist7676]

Sorry I'm not keeping up I knew I couldn't do this.

Replace out.

CSL looks like I'm on your blacklist again. Sorry

[killerjester]

^_____________^

Exactly the reactions I wanted. Hopefully I can pull some decent analysis out of them.

Vote time. Go.

[Quilford]

Replace me, please. I cannot fathom why I am being warned for analysing whether massclaim is a viable strategy when nothing in the ruleset explicitly states that I can not do so.

[Maruchan]

You prefaced the speculation of viable strategy by saying "I wonder if it is game-breaking" which could seem to be an attempt to break the game

[Maruchan]

Quil, Please don't replace out. Rather than sticking it to the mod what you're really doing is harming the rest of our game. A more reasonable way to stick it to a mod would be to never play the mod's games again, rather than replacing out and causing problems for the other players

[killerjester]

Quil, Please don't replace out. Rather than sticking it to the mod what you're really doing is harming the rest of our game. A more reasonable way to stick it to a mod would be to never play the mod's games again, rather than replacing out and causing problems for the other players

This. You're only hurting us by leaving.

[Quilford]

I'm also overloaded at the moment for replacing into games from the Replacement Queue which I know is my own fault.

I find larger games particularly time-consuming, so I'd prefer to replace out of this one.

[CSL]

Really? Ugh!

Finding another temp replacement for DonJosh, and finding a replacement for Quilford. I'm not blacklisting neither of them.

For future reference, saying the words "breaking the game" like what Quilford said a page(?) ago makes it look like you're trying to break the game, joking or not.

[Maruchan]

Mod, I'll play for all three of us. Just forward me them role PMs

No.

[Maruchan]

damn the smiley messed up *

[Cobblerfone]

1. I've seen Day 1s with less players go on for longer. I think the number of pages signifies nothing. The reason we have a certain amount of time is so that we can use it.

And how many of those games ended in a town win? Taking too much time can suck the life out of town.

3. So you trust zMuffinMan, who took about a week to read the thread and apparently can't be arsed to post much more than a scum read on one of the most popular wagons of the day, over yourself?

Enough for a D1 lynch.

@muffin: i think meta is a terrible arguement...

Meta is the best argument.

[CSL]

Blah, blah, votecount on next page.