Open 324 - Ninja Mafia (End. No Drama, please!)

[Empking]

Bedcausde:
chkflip
cavjj
projectmatt
Cobblerfone

are in the same order in both lists!

[killerjester]

Ooo I didn't even notice that! Free townpoints to Empking, and my offer is still open.

Whose name did I omit on purpose (to see if anyone would notice), and whose name is

also

not on Maru's list?

[Empking]

I know the answer but I'll let somebody else get the points.

[projectmatt]

Hey, both of you left out Scumhunter. Also. And both of these lists are in almost the exact same order. And killer's name is not in Maruchan's list.

Am I the only one who sees an insanely feasible "copy and paste reads, change them up a little, look pro-town" attempt here?

[projectmatt]

Actually, yes. Maruchan certainly copy and pasted Killer's reads. There is no way they both magically forgot about him.

This proves that Maru isn't paying particular attention to her own reads that she's outing, and that bothers me quite a lot.

[Empking]

Mod: Please update the first post wrt SS & Quilford, please.

[killerjester]

Actually, yes. Maruchan certainly copy and pasted Killer's reads. There is no way they both magically forgot about him.

This proves that Maru isn't paying particular attention to her own reads that she's outing, and that bothers me quite a lot.

Ding Ding Ding Ding!

I got the exact same feeling when I noticed Maruchan forgot the same person I left out. Townpoints for projectmatt!

Scumhunter is 5/10, null, if anyone was interested about that. He's been lurking pretty hard all game and I felt the best candidate for this gambit.

[CSL]

1.21

stormer -[0]-
Tomie Uzumaki -[0]-
Ray Montano -[0]-
Cobblerfone -[0]-
killerjester -[0]-
BBmolla -[2]- [killerjester, hiplop]
Descent -[0]-

hiplop -[7]- [projectmatt, Maruchan, zMuffinMan, BBmolla, Cobblerfone, chkflip, Hikari Link] [L-3]

Scumhunter -[0]-
cavjj -[1]- [Scumhunter]
Empking -[0]-
zMuffinMan -[0]-
Hikari Link -[0]-
projectmatt -[1]- [Ray Montano]
singersigner -[2]- [Kcdaspot, Empking]
Maruchan -[1]- [Tomie Uzumaki]
chkflip -[0]-
Kcdaspot -[1]- [cavjj]

~cavjj is being replaced
~Tomie is being replaced and blacklisted
~~With 18 alive, it will take 10 to lynch, 9 to no lynch
~~~The deadline is in (expired on 2011-09-04 20:00:00), or

September 4th, 2011 @ 7pm CDT

[Cobblerfone]

Killer, that was awesome. Can we lynch Maruchan with this newfound momentum?

Vote: Maruchan

[Maruchan]

Maru, did you steal the names from my list, and omit yourself? Cos that's what it looks like. Beyond forgetting my name, the first person to tell me why this is likely scores town points.

did you even read it?

No.

Its way different than your reads so GG>

[Maruchan]

Hey, both of you left out Scumhunter. Also. And both of these lists are in almost the exact same order. And killer's name is not in Maruchan's list.

Am I the only one who sees an insanely feasible "copy and paste reads, change them up a little, look pro-town" attempt here?

ha dur dur.

I saw his list, remembered someone asked me for one in oen of my games, thought it was this game.

And made a list. So yeah, I was lookign at the names on his list while makign mine, rather than goign to Page one.

No the names aren;t in anywhere near the same positions as on his.

[Maruchan]

Killer, that was awesome. Can we lynch Maruchan with this newfound momentum?

Vote: Maruchan

lol go for it.

I honestly could give a fucking care less if you feal like lynching me for making a list when I thought I had been asked to make a list (different game I now realize, sorry), then fuckin go for it.

[hiplop]

THANK YOU.

Maruchan isn't even trying, hes only said im scummy, and thats all hes done all game. He doesnt even have a case ffs. He did a Post-by-post and couldnt nail anything on me.

[hiplop]

Killer, that was awesome. Can we lynch Maruchan with this newfound momentum?

Vote: Maruchan

lol go for it.

I honestly could give a fucking care less if you feal like lynching me for making a list when I thought I had been asked to make a list (different game I now realize, sorry), then fuckin go for it.

50x better than your case on me.

[killerjester]

GG Maru

VOTE: Maruchan

[Scumhunter]

on page 11 and counting massive reread in progress

[hiplop]

VOTE: Maru

READ FLUCTUATING LIKE A BOSS, WILLING TO SAY SCUM

[Maruchan]

when I flip VT, lynch hiplop for my tomorrow.

[Scumhunter]

on page 18, heading to lunch soon at work will keep going through and post full reads at the end. updated thoughts so far

case on BBmolla is overblown and based on a bunch of null tells
tomie is town
Ray is obv town
cobblerfone leaning twon

[maruchan, kcda, hiplop]- I'm not sure what the hell you guys are doing but its not scumhunting. Honestly my brain hurts reading your posts, and I don't follow most of your cases because they make very little sense. Advice would be to not focus on specific action as scummy necessarily, the motivation behind any said "scummy" individual action is way way way more important than classifying any action as scummy. Maruchan, I read your overanalysis a null tell, Id need to iso you more for a better read, but frankly don't have the time nor the energy to do that right now.

Top suspects at this point of reread: PM, DonJosh
Top town reads:Ray montano, tomie,

Note to self review Link's game play in-depth

more later.

[zMuffinMan]

OK, first of all, what singersigner did is nothing like the Amished tell. The amished tell is when you acknowledge (unprompted) that your predecessor's play was scummy - it has nothing to do with looking over your predecessor in ISO. I'm not sure what to make of Link and kcda both jumping on singer on p30. Interestingly, I've only seen the Amished tell used 3 times recently (Cold War mafia by VP Baltar, Newbie1119 by Nacho and Newbie1123 by Amrun), all 3 times by scum. That should say something about the reliability of the tell... singer's explanations also make sense here. Plus she replaced Quilford (lolmodconfirmed -

please don't modkill me CSL, I'm half-joking, I swear

).

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Since when is fence-sitting a scum tell? Is it? Well, now I know why everybody thinks I am scum all the time. I will always sound out my thoughts, and I will never play my votes early on in games. Other then the RVS, I will never put my early vote on someone.

Wow, that's great. Thanks for the update. Keep up the good work.

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This recent maru stuff is funny. Obviously he took killerjester's list and modified it... So what? I don't see this as any different to taking the player list from the OP and changing it so that it suits your reads. The fact he left out someone who's posted little more than promises to catch up until just recently doesn't really mean much.

And hiplop's flip-flopped on another of his reads. Go figure. Did not see that one coming at all.

[Kcdaspot]

UGGGH

TOO MANY SCUMMY PEOPLE

NOT ENOUGH TIME TO LYNCH EM ALL!!!!

UNVOTE:

also stop sheeping me Emp.

[Kcdaspot]

I'm going to have a think about this.

[Empking]

Unvote, Vote: Hip

[Cobblerfone]

In response to my previous post I guess that's a no. And Hiplop goes back into more solid lynch-range if Killer comes back.

Unvote

Vote: Hiplop

[Maruchan]

Cobbler just jumped down about 4 notches on my list btw guys.