Open 324 - Ninja Mafia (End. No Drama, please!)

[zMuffinMan]

Re: #812

Maybe Empking, he's either useless sheep town or sheep scum.

tsk, tsk. BB, really?

Re: #830

I don't understand how you people who have played with Empking before can honestly sit here and say Empking is obvtown. Empking is doing the EXACT same thing in this game that he does in every single other game, which is post one-liners which have no weight or substance behind them with no original thought or effort.

See, the fact that everyone is calling Empking "obvtown" makes me think he probably is town and scum are jumping on the "lol Empking is town" wagon trying to fit in. It happened with maruchan, too, early in the game (although that's changed recently and now everyone seems to think he's scum).

Re: #839

However, I don't agree with his case on hip

Do you disagree with all of it or just specific parts?

Re: #840

to be fair, Muffin is easy to spot as scum. I've learned that! He tries less, and theres a definite difference

Hiplop,

Without fail, you have called me scum in

every single game

I've been in with you, except for 1095 where you happened to be very, very wrong. Even if you did know what my scum meta is, you have no idea how to spot it.

But, since you're the claimed resident expert on muffin's meta, am I town or scum here, hiplop?

Re: #848

Muffin, I don’t find it odd at all that hiplop’s top suspects are the ones voting him. An emotional townie response is to yell at those who suspect you, particularly when you feel it is an unfair case. Not great play and perhaps even an “OMGUS” response of “you guys suck for voting me”, not great play, but not scum motivated necessarily.

er...

I know what you're getting at (I've played with players like DK far too many times), but there's a huge difference between analysing people who are attacking you and pulling bullshit reads out of thin air that both conflict with previous reads and just happen to be all of the people who are attacking you.

#856

kay. it's just nearly everoy post you make has been in agreement with me. nearly.

I disagree.

This post made my night. s2

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@Link,

Re: #858

You're taking what Amished is saying slightly out of context and it doesn't apply here. But I'm not going to argue this any further. singersigner is not going to be lynched purely on this.

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Re: #873

link vote maru and ill <3 you forever... or give you INSTA TOWN credit in every game >_>

OK.

Let's make believe you're town hiplop.

Explain the thought process behind this post.

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And I'm going to stop quote-walling here. Will catch up on the rest soon.

I'm getting bad vibes from killerjester, who seems to be prodding and poking and doing little scum hunting. And there's a number of other people making me a sad panda who need to post real content.

[Hikari Link]

I'll probably post tomorrow if my body isn't still sore from work. My spine really hurts, so focusing for a long period can be an issue. Hopefully I'll be better tomorrow.

[CSL]

Votecount and a prod check coming.

DonJosh's V/LA expired. He will get a reminder notice about this game after the votecount.

[CSL]

1.26

stormer -[0]-
Tomie Uzumaki -[0]-
Ray Montano -[0]-
Cobblerfone -[0]-
killerjester -[0]-
BBmolla -[2]- [Hikari Link, Empking]
Descent -[0]-
hiplop -[4]- [Maruchan, zMuffinMan, BBmolla, chkflip]
Scumhunter -[0]-
Junpei -[0]-
Empking -[1]- [Ray Montano]
zMuffinMan -[0]-
Hikari Link -[0]-
projectmatt -[1]- [Scumhunter]
singersigner -[0]-
Maruchan -[5]- [Tomie Uzumaki, killerjester, hiplop, Kcdaspot, Cobblerfone] [L-5]
chkflip -[0]-
Kcdaspot -[1]- [Junpei]

~The Kcdaspot and Scumhunter banter that started on post 908 of page 37 is not game related. Please keep non-game related posts out of this thread.
~Tomie is being replaced and blacklisted
~chkflip and DonJosh were prodded
~~With 18 alive, it will take 10 to lynch, 9 to no lynch
~~~The deadline is in

(expired on 2011-09-04 20:00:00)

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September 4th, 2011 @ 7pm CDT

[Empking]

oh and cobbler actually. Scumteam found

Four scum.

[Cobblerfone]

Well, the hurricane's past me, and everything's still working. So, I guess I won't be on V/LA after all.

In regards to KCDA, he's pushy and sporadic and

tunnels town members

for no reason, but I think that's just him, not him being scum. I feel if he were scum he wouldnt have 170 posts, it brings too much attention to him.

Scumslip? I did something similiar in speed mafia as town, but it still seems off. Why not players? Maybe I'm just being picky. Anyway, it's page 40. Can we please wrap this up? I'm willing to vote Maruchan or Hiplop right now. Can we please lynch one of these two?

[stormer]

im quick posting to say im still here just that its hard going through 600 posts on the phone.

[Scumhunter]

Junpei, hiplop is probably town. Take it from someone who has ML'd him twice in previous games. This is just the way he plays. He's stubborn and doesn't use logic and as the day goes on you start to think his play style can't possibly be just newb tells. I convinced myself in two separate games that there was no way he could be town and both times I was smacked in the face with a town flip. THere are better lynches today.

[killerjester]

Empking, has Molla become a viable lynch again?

zMuffin, should I be worried about your slight read?

[Junpei]

Junpei, hiplop is probably town. Take it from someone who has ML'd him twice in previous games. This is just the way he plays. He's stubborn and doesn't use logic and as the day goes on you start to think his play style can't possibly be just newb tells. I convinced myself in two separate games that there was no way he could be town and both times I was smacked in the face with a town flip. THere are better lynches today.

So let me summarize what you're saying.

1) Hiplop cannot be scum because

a) You have ML'd him twice as town
b) He never uses logic and is always stubborn
c) You smacked your own face because you ML'd him twice because he looks like scum

A and C are thrown out the window to me, and B isn't a good argument.

[Scumhunter]

I'm not saying he can't be scum. I'm saying the likelihood of him being scum is significantly less than you seem to think it is.

[Scumhunter]

The "scummy" actions you are basing your case off actually are null tells if he acts that way independent of alignment.

[killerjester]

Junpei replaced cavjj right? I like this guy.

But your vote is a little off-center considering the wagons at the moment.

[Junpei]

Junpei replaced cavjj right? I like this guy.

But your vote is a little off-center considering the wagons at the moment.

I do find Maruchan and Hiplop scummy, but I would prefer a kcdaspot lynch more than either of them right now, and there is no reason to settle yet as my case on kcda hasn't been made in full or evaluated, I WILL get around to finishing it, just have a lot of real life/other game stuff to do.

Scumhunter, "not using logic" and "being incredibly scummy" aren't null tells to anyone, if they were then that person could never lose as scum if everyone accepted that.

[BBmolla]

In regards to KCDA, he's pushy and sporadic and

tunnels town members

for no reason, but I think that's just him, not him being scum. I feel if he were scum he wouldnt have 170 posts, it brings too much attention to him.

Scumslip? I did something similiar in speed mafia as town, but it still seems off. Why not players?

Because I don't think he's tunneled anyone whose actually scum as of yet.

[Junpei]

In regards to KCDA, he's pushy and sporadic and

tunnels town members

for no reason, but I think that's just him, not him being scum. I feel if he were scum he wouldnt have 170 posts, it brings too much attention to him.

Scumslip? I did something similiar in speed mafia as town, but it still seems off. Why not players?

Because I don't think he's tunneled anyone whose actually scum as of yet.

He tunneled Cobbler for a bit whom you have down as null. Null isn't town.

[Maruchan]

Everyone should vote 4 hiplop.

[Cobblerfone]

In regards to KCDA, he's pushy and sporadic and

tunnels town members

for no reason, but I think that's just him, not him being scum. I feel if he were scum he wouldnt have 170 posts, it brings too much attention to him.

Scumslip? I did something similiar in speed mafia as town, but it still seems off. Why not players?

Because I don't think he's tunneled anyone whose actually scum as of yet.

Wait,

that's

your response? So it had nothing to do with using "town member" for "resident of the town" instead of "member of the town faction"? This response is scummy. Is it possible that we have all three scum right here? Plus a probable lurker scum (Descent?) or a leader scum (Kc? Killer?). I think we're all set. I'd be fine with the lynching of Maru, Hiplop, OR Molla today. (Though I just hope we can carry on with lynching one of the two that already have wagons and deal with Molla D2/D3. )

[killerjester]

Cobbler, in which situation would we not lynch until Molla D3?

[Junpei]

Cobbler, in which situation would we not lynch until Molla D3?

killerjester, why do you assume cobbler will die by then?

[Cobblerfone]

Cobbler, in which situation would we not lynch until Molla D3?

Eh? Either No-lynch D2 or Hiplop/Maru-lynch D2.

[BBmolla]

In regards to KCDA, he's pushy and sporadic and

tunnels town members

for no reason, but I think that's just him, not him being scum. I feel if he were scum he wouldnt have 170 posts, it brings too much attention to him.

Scumslip? I did something similiar in speed mafia as town, but it still seems off. Why not players?

Because I don't think he's tunneled anyone whose actually scum as of yet.

Wait,

that's

your response? So it had nothing to do with using "town member" for "resident of the town" instead of "member of the town faction"? This response is scummy. Is it possible that we have all three scum right here? Plus a probable lurker scum (Descent?) or a leader scum (Kc? Killer?). I think we're all set. I'd be fine with the lynching of Maru, Hiplop, OR Molla today. (Though I just hope we can carry on with lynching one of the two that already have wagons and deal with Molla D2/D3. )

No, it's not possible that we have all three scum because I'm town. You can lynch me whenever you'd like, it just won't accomplish anything when I flip town.

Honestly, feel free to lynch me, this day is taking way too long and there's bound to be three or four more useless wagons.

[hiplop]

Yup

What are they, what are you reasons for each of them?

Yup

What are they, what are you reasons for each of them?

BBmolla - the case on him is pretty obvious, and pretty much everyone has explained it: hes fake as fuck, and hes clearly just trying to look town. Look at my catchup post.
Marucha - Hes tunneling, without a case. Refuses to listen to anything, and literally, I've asked him to explain in short why I'm scum, and he can't. Also, and time he defends himself, its an awful AtE post. Not good at all. Add in his general snarkiness, and hes pretty obviously scum.
Cobbler - Honestly, I just agree with the cases others have made, hes been bandwagonning, and doesnt seem to have the towns intentions at heart. He could be town, but I just dont see it.

Junpei, hiplop is probably town. Take it from someone who has ML'd him twice in previous games. This is just the way he plays. He's stubborn and doesn't use logic and as the day goes on you start to think his play style can't possibly be just newb tells. I convinced myself in two separate games that there was no way he could be town and both times I was smacked in the face with a town flip. THere are better lynches today.

Not true at all, in fact. If you read the games SH is talking about, hes the one who looks stupid, because of his lack of knowledge. Don't try to boast your ego, when its not true at all

Hiplop,

Without fail, you have called me scum in every single game I've been in with you, except for 1095 where you happened to be very, very wrong. Even if you did know what my scum meta is, you have no idea how to spot it.

But, since you're the claimed resident expert on muffin's meta, am I town or scum here, hiplop?

No. In fact in a few you were my top town read I'm not an expert at all, but some games I read, I had you pinpointed as scum

Hm, Not sure yet.

[Junpei]

BBmolla... ugh. Add BBmolla to the list of people I'm okay with lynching.

pedit: So Maruchan can you summarize your read on hiplop then?

Do you have any examples of Cobbler bandwagoning specifically? I actually haven't seen any cobbler cases posted I don't believe.

So your claiming that Scumhunter provided false meta on you? Hm..

[Maruchan]

So Maruchan can you summarize your read on hiplop then?

He's 100% confScum