Open 324 - Ninja Mafia (End. No Drama, please!)

[glowball]

Cool story, bro.

[BBmolla]

Glowball is probable town you're wasting your time.

[Empking]

Ray

(But singer is even scummier than I thought then. Thankls.)

[Junpei]

Muffin, Quilford, Singer

Wait, what? I just realized what Killerjester pointed out... you listed the same slot twice... possible scum slip? How did this happen?

Empking may I request that you post a list of reads with reasons?

[killerjester]

I didn't find that as a scumslip. Rather, he found both players individually scummy and just didn't realize one replaced the other. This fits with the conclusion he drew, that singer is even scummier than he originally thought since he predecessor also acted scummy. This also means if Empking flips scum, we can consider singer cleared since I don't believe a scum would make this mistake with a partner scum. His reads on Ray and Muffin are reasonable I suppose, but I would like to know one more thing.

@Empking, why is chkflip town?

[Empking]

Muffin, Quilford, Singer

Wait, what? I just realized what Killerjester pointed out... you listed the same slot twice... possible scum slip?

How?

(You're other question is no. There are like 16 players left.)

Chk is null to me. I have literally no read on him.

[Empking]

KJ: If singer flips scum am I town?

[killerjester]

Yes.

[glowball]

Via text message from the mod to me this afternoon:

Hey, can you post in 324 saying that I am on v/la for 3 to 4 days due to a family emergency? I might have time to get on mafiascum, but it will only be for modding and mishmash. It would also be nice of you that you PM the mods of the games I am in the same thing.

Tell them that you have permission first.

So yeah... from CSL he might get on he might not. Limited Access and what not.

[Cobblerfone]

Also, I think that I don't believe your "not in order" thing. Your vote is on chkflip yes, but earlier you said that singer was, indeed your top scum read. However then you go on to contradict this very fact by saying that you are voting chkflip, and he is second on your list. However you mentioned that the list is not in order, so this would seem to reason that chkflip is the scummiest person to you. However you said singer was the top scumread for you, so this makes no sense.

The top reads can be at the top and the weakest reads at the bottom with everything else inbetween being mixed up. Plus List of names versus List of scum. What happened to logic.

As expected, you only care about your personal state in the game, not the towns' state in the game. As such, you are scum.

No, it just means he's a VI. Don't make me vote you again.

[Junpei]

Where the top reads are the strongest and the bottom reads are the weakest it stands to reason that the reads in between are in order as well. Yes it may be the case that they aren't, but the most logical conclusion I can draw is that they are. Why were you voting chkflip over singer? Also, you can vote me if you wish, but glowball will hang if she refuses to cooperate with town, and I will gladly be the one to buy the rope.

[killerjester]

Lynching scum is better than lynching policy imo

[Junpei]

Glowball's 18 hour promise has been broken.

Killerjester, no. I won't let scum hiding in the mask of outrageous behavior prevent me from winning. This type of player is impossible to deal with, and needs to die pending any actual attempt to provide detailed reads and catch up.

[glowball]

Yeah I give reads to people who deserve them. I am here and I am ready, but as long as Junpei is going to have this arrogant attitude, I'll keep my notes to myself and just place my vote when the time comes.

[Junpei]

Glowball, I apologize for my inhumane behavior.

[CSL]

Thanks, glowball!

Votecount up shortly.

[CSL]

The "*smack*" Votecount!

stormer -[0]-
Javert -[0]-
Ray Montano -[0]-
Cobblerfone -[2]- [stormer, Hikari Link]
killerjester -[1]- [Cobblerfone]
BBmolla -[3]- [Empking, Javert, killerjester]
glowball -[3]- [singersigner, Junpei, Kcdaspot]
Scumhunter -[0]-
Junpei -[0]-
Empking -[0]-
zMuffinMan -[0]-
Hikari Link -[0]-
projectmatt -[1]- [zMuffinMan]
singersigner -[0]-
whispersilk -[1]- [projectmatt]
Kcdaspot -[0]-

V/LAs

-Scumhunter until 9/14
-CSL until 9/19 at latest. Will still be able to provide votecounts and flavor+flips, etc.

Prods and Replacements

-Ray Montano is being replaced and blacklisted

Lynching Requirements

-With 16 alive, it will take 9 to lynch, 8 to no lynch. Not reaching the deadline (

September 19th, 2011 @ 11:51am CDT

) will result in a no lynch.
-

(expired on 2011-09-19 12:51:00)

Miscellaneous

-The Mod reminds you that personal attacks will not be tolerated.
-Please stop with the quote pyramids.
-Do not bring any hatred, anger, feuds, etc., that are with another player into this game. If you truly need to rant, please rant to me.

[Junpei]

Glowball, listen, I genuinely am sorry. I insulted you in ways that no one ever should, and I acted like a complete dolt, and for that I apologize. I only hope that you feel pity enough on my patheticness that you look past me, for I only wish to make amends.

[killerjester]

So Junpei's going to be stuck up and insist and lynch glowball unless she gives reads. And glowball is going to be stuck up and insist on not giving reads as long as Junpei wants to lynch her for such reasons.

Can you see the problem here?

PEDIT: Oh, I guess he can.

[glowball]

Hahaha.. yeah.

I find this hard to believe since you just called yourself pathetic. It still stands that you think I am scum, and you said that scum reads are of no use to you, right?

If you are being genuine I can consider this, but for some reason I don't see it. Just answer the question above...

[killerjester]

Oh. My. God.

The player who is actually town needs to stop being so goddamn difficult.

[glowball]

I am not being difficult, I have a question out to Junpei when he answers it I will see if we can move on.

[Junpei]

Well here's the thing, glowball. If you are scum then your reads are useful as they would provide connections, etc.; earlier I spoke out of rash, immature emotion, and if you see it as fake that's because a switch turned on in my brain where I read my posts and realized what a fool I was being.

Yes I called myself pathetic, but that is because my actions were pathetic.

But yes, I would love to see your reads, I do not know if you are scum anymore, as I feel my emotions had altered my read, I'll have to reconsider it, and your reads will help me do that.

unvote

until I can get my head back together.

[glowball]

Hmmm, I just think it's a ploy by you because you want my reads so you are being fake nice to me to get your way HOWEVER...I APPROVE- it is at least showing that you are thinking that all reads can be/are useful and for that regardless of if it is real or fake I will have my reads, but now I am playing RISK when my game ends I will post.

[Javert]

1.)

glowball, withholding your reads because we don’t “deserve” them is patently ridiculous. And you know it. Suppose you’re Town and Junpei or killerjester is scum; you would be withholding your reads because you are frustrated by

scum.

Do you think Junpei is scum? Do you think killerjester is scum? If so, why would you let either player’s behavior affect whether you give your reads?

If you are Town, please stop trying to play the victim, and please stop acting like a martyr.

2.)

Kcdaspot, what is your read of glowball?

3.)

Kcdaspot, why do you think BBMolla is “the ninja”?

4.)

singersigner, why do you think BBMolla is Town? I normally do not ask players to explain town reads, but I will make an exception here.