Mini 301: Berry Kingdom Mafia II -- (Game Over!!)

[Lloyd]

Then again, maybe we have a doctor

Either way, it's fun to make scum second-guess potential night-time protections.

[Yosarian2]

Ummm...

Well, pending the mod results of this lynch, I'm glad that my scumdar is apparently still in good working order, but the timing of your claim made absolutly no sense at all, CA. Why?

[AniX]

Uhhhhhh.....lynch. Yeah, I don't actually have roles or mod powers to lock this thread...Nobody talk, ok?

[Blackberry]

In

Kanika Village

the berries weap with sorrow over the recent deaths They determine they must lynch somebody today, but who? After a short discussion, they gang up on ciprian.

ciprian,

Blackberry (Villager)

, has been lynched.

It is now Night Two, if you have a night choice, send it in ASAP. Deadline: Not Yet Decided.

[Blackberry]

In

Kanika Village

, the berries awakens to the joyful view of a dead berry. Poor, poor berry. It wasn't just any berry, it happened to be a Strawberry too! The village begins to cry (for two seconds) but then they realize, they have work to do!

Coron,

Strawberry (Cop)

, has been crushed.

The eight berries gather around and begin a village discussion...

With Eight alive, it will take Five to lynch.

[Commodore Amazing]

vote: Yosarian2

[Yosarian2]

...

CA, yesterday, you ignored me asking you to wait and give ciperon a chance to claim, implied you were a cop info, and finished off ciperon, and you were wrong. Now you're coming out of nowhere voting me?

Care to explain any of this?

[Coron]

Seriously guys, no killing me, it's not nice.

*cry cry*

[TheCesspit]

Vote: Commodore Amazing

CA made an implied claim of cop yesterday (or at least how I read it). But a: he was wrong in his prediction, and a Townie died and b: a cop died overnight.

He then comes out and straight votes Yossarian2. No reasons.

(I am assuming one cop in the game. I could be wrong)

This all looks very suspect to me. So a pressure vote to see if we can get answers.

I also note we had just one night death tonight, where as the first night we had two.

[Ameliaslay]

Commodore Amazing,

Doctor is a

potential

role. See post 2.

Even if we don't have a doctor, a 1 for 1 trade is still worth it.

Well, I got back in time for the thread to be locked on the closing vote... This kind of stood out to me... care to explain?

[Commodore Amazing]

Care to explain any of this?

Sure. I'm a

Boysenberry (Tracker)

. Night one, I tracked Coron. He targeted me. I figured Coron was innocent (he didn't target either person who was killed). I also figured he was a doc and not a cop, since I didn't think there would be so many information roles in this game (myself, Coron, and the masons).

I also assumed that at worst we were lynching a townie or the other mason yesterday (since I thought all power roles were accounted for). I figured we might as well lynch him and keep the other power roles hidden.

Anyway,

I tracked Yosarian2 last night. He targeted Coron.

Seems pretty easy to me.

(I am assuming one cop in the game. I could be wrong)

I'm not a cop, I'm a tracker. Either way, yeah, I can see how I look bad from yesterday. I figured I'd have to claim, and I'm happy I got a scum for you.

I also note we had just one night death tonight, where as the first night we had two.

This confuses me too. I could see Fritzler acting night one as a vig, but his method of dying is different from the other dead roles. I couldn't see Fritzler killing himself night one.

[Bacde]

I'm not sure if I want to risk a 2nd lynch this early. Personally I'd like to think that it is between CA and Yosarian, but nothing is ever that simple.

[Yosarian2]

I targeted no one last night. I am a blackberry, and I have no night actions at all.

Anyway, CA, your explination for your lynch vote of ciperon yesterday makes no sense. If you're not a strawberry (a cop), then why would you just assume that there isn't a true cop in the game? Why would you imply you had information about ciperon that confirmed his guilt if you did not?

Also, it's very interesting that you claim that day 1 you just happened to target the one person who died and thus would be unable to tell us if you're telling the truth or if you're lying.

[Yosarian2]

Hmmm...my best guess is that CA is the SK; he was hoping to confirm himself yesterday as a cop with that bizzare lynching post and then glide through the rest of the game unlynchable and with doc protection, but when it turned out he was wrong about ciperon being scum, he got desperate and decided to try one more time to confirm himself by "finding" scum, and so he blindly (and incorectly) guessed me as scum, and is trying one last gamble.

vote:Commadore Amazing

Seriously, why would you claim an information role in the last post of day 1, anyway? There is no logical pro-town explination for your actions yesterday.

[Yosarian2]

Crap. I just realized that if I'm right and CA is the SK, then if we lynch him today, and there's 3 scum, we could lose tonight.

unvote

while I think this through.

[Commodore Amazing]

My guess is that Yosarian2 is scum looking for the SK right now before he dies. I don't think he is SK.

Seriously, why would you claim an information role in the last post of day 1, anyway? There is no logical pro-town explination for your actions yesterday.

I figured if I was right, the scum would have a pretty good idea why I was lynching, but the doc (who I thought was Coron) might not. Unless I made it obvious.

If you're not a strawberry (a cop), then why would you just assume that there isn't a true cop in the game?

As Lloyd pointed out, the roles on the first page are only potential roles. You see there isn't a vig role listed there. I assume that trackers are about as good as cops, so I assumed there was no cop. It's not that hard of a leap to make.

Are we already in lynch-or-lose? We could go no lynch then. SK will probably have to kill Yosarian2 to keep the scum down. Scum will probably kill me. I guess that puts us in the same spot as if we lynched Yosarian2.

I could go no lynch or for a lynch on Yosarian2.

[Cherry]

CA's last few posts threw me a bit, which could be his plan. claiming an info role to prevent a mafia kill, or claiming it to prevent a lynch showing him as mafia?

Normally I would vote him to get some answers as would anyone. However, with fewer votes needed to lynch and after our last bandwagon, i suggest we take this one slower to prevent a lynch on a townie without goooood cause.

[Lloyd]

Blackberry,

Could you swap post 0 with post 3?

With the "Always show First Post on every Topic Page" feature turned on, it's more useful to have the living / dead list as post 0.

jeep made a simliar request in another game.

Thanks in advance.

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Ameliaslay,

Doctor, you get one guess as to why I lynched ciprian before he claimed.

Yesterday, Commodore Amazing hinted at being a cop.

care to explain?

At the time, I thought Commodore Amazing was a cop who had a guilty result on ciprian.

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Commodore Amazing,

I didn't think there would be so many information roles in this game (myself, Coron, and the masons)

You are probably lying about your role, because I'm an informational role.

I'm a Huckleberry (Roleblocker), and I breadcrumbed yesterday.

I used expressions found in the Huckleberry Finn book:

- Post 26: "going to live so as to go to the good place"
- Post 69: "plumb crazy"

I described myself, similar to how one would describe the Huckleberry Finn character:

- Post 26: "I'm a mischievous Berry having fun"

Night 1 - I submitted no block, because I didn't want to accidentally block a cop or doctor.

Night 2 - I submitted a block on you, because ciprian turned up town.

I tracked Yosarian2 last night.

I don't believe you, because I submitted a block on you last night.

Are we already in lynch-or-lose? We could go no lynch then. SK will probably have to kill Yosarian2 to keep the scum down. Scum will probably kill me. I guess that puts us in the same spot as if we lynched Yosarian2.

I could go no lynch or for a lynch on Yosarian2.

You seem more likely to be mafia than serial killer.

Vote: Commodore Amazing

[Yosarian2]

No-lynch is not an option, because if two pro-town people die tonight, the scum wins. What we need to do is lynch a scum today; then even if two GG's die tonight, we've got a chance, and if there's a cross-kill or a roleblock we're even better off.

If CA was blocked last night, and there was a missing kill, that would make it even more likely he's the SK. Could have been the scum making the kill, but that's only a 1 in 3 chance.

If the lynch yesterday had turned out to be scum, I would have thought that CA was selling one of his own down the river to try to back up a cop claim; that's what I thought when I questioned his illogical claim at the end of the day. However, when the lynch yesterday hit down (which seemed to not be what CA expected to happen, based on his last post yesterday) that makes me think he's the SK.

CA, if you're the SK, you need to claim now. We might be able to confirm that by role-blocking CA again tonight and seeing what happens. No one is buying your claim now, it's just not making sense; and even if they did belive you and lynch me, when everyone finds out I'm a good guy, the scum will then also know you're the SK, and so will most likely kill you tonight and win. If you're the SK, CA, your only hope of winning is to claim now.

[Blackberry]

Kanika Village Vote Count

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Commodore Amazing

:: (2) :: (TheCesspit, Lloyd)

Yosarian2

:: (1) :: (Commodore Amazing)

Not Voting: Ameliaslay, Bacde, Cherry, Yosarian2, ziliu

Five Votes to Lynch.

[TheCesspit]

<i>CA, if you're the SK, you need to claim now. We might be able to confirm that by role-blocking CA again tonight and seeing what happens. No one is buying your claim now, it's just not making sense; and even if they did belive you and lynch me, when everyone finds out I'm a good guy, the scum will then also know you're the SK, and so will most likely kill you tonight and win. If you're the SK, CA, your only hope of winning is to claim now. </i>

Why would anyone role-claim the SK even if they were? As soon as you claim, you time is up, as if the town doesn't lynch you, the Mafia will.

[Ameliaslay]

Why would anyone role-claim the SK

To go for the prisoner's dilemma... since he's (by Lloyd's claim) exposed in one form or another, he might as well and we can

possibly

use him to our benefit rather than detriment...

[Yosarian2]

Why would anyone role-claim the SK even if they were? As soon as you claim, you time is up, as if the town doesn't lynch you, the Mafia will.

(shrug) It happens. In a situation where the town simply can't afford to lynch the SK, sometimes claiming SK is the only way to survive.

[Bacde]

I think trying to harness an SK is biting off a little more than we would be able to chew. I say we lynch him.

Vote: Commodore Amazing

[Yosarian2]

If we lynch the SK today, the town loses tonight.

Or did you already think of that?

fos:bacde

If Bacde is scum, they might be pushing for a speedlynch right now...