In post 2833, Junpei wrote:Link: I'll get a reads list down when I have time later, but did you see my recent interaction with Scumhunter? Because you failed to mention it, and it is of great importance.
I did fail to mention that and it was on purpose. At the time, it seemed like the interaction was still ongoing. I wanted to see if there was any possibility that Scumhunter was on to anything and as it turns out, he wasn't. My scum read on him has only intensified in the time I've been unable to post.
In post 2843, Scumhunter wrote:Link, if it wasn't for the amount of effort that whisper is putting in right now, would you think she is town?
Descent, hey I'm tired of talking with scum, want to explain your vote and other reads?
This is a patently terrible question. It assumes both that I assume that whispersilk is town because she has put in effort and that it would be possible to even have a read on her without her posting. If she never posted, I'd obviously have no reason to think she's town.
In post 2864, Scumhunter wrote:Descent, good to hear from you.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I could disagree with you more than I currently do. VE + Muffin are both very likely town and whisper is very likely scum.
unvote, vote whispersilk
@zMuffin + Javert: I have seen town slots contribute nothing and end up lynched too many times to vote pink's slot right now. Do I think his slot is suspicious and potentially scum. Absolutely. It sure makes sense for 1 scum (Junpei) to jump on scum-pink while the rest of the scum state an intent to lynch but never place votes there. So yea, I think pink is probably scum more often than not. Junpei and Whisper are way better lynches though. Javert, I don't know why you assume a Junpei lynch isn't happening today...That's my preferred lynch.
@Descent, iso chkflip (whisper's slot). Don't let her aggression now and large posts outweigh that early game play. If I have one regret from early game its for not pushing on chkflip harder d1.
Once again we see that you attempt to build a case against whispersilk based almost entirely upon chkflip by trying to get people to dismiss whispersilk's existence. How is that a legitimate case and how has nobody called you out on it yet? Or did I just miss someone pointing it out?
In post 2866, Scumhunter wrote:Javert is obv town. He's just trying to get his way and lynch his top scumread. Pink is likely scum, but with a slot that has lurked the entire game its really not as much of a guarantee of a scumflip as whisper or junpei, who have been active and blatantly anti-town with logicless arguments.
Javert, are you willing to reconsider lynching whisper/junpei? It's a trust exercise. You are town. I'm town. Whisper is scum. Junpei is scum. They are going to be hard to lynch. I need your support.
Anyone else noticing an attempt to buddy Javert here? I really don't like it. On top of that, it's the second time he says pinkfloyd is probably town, but he'd rather lynch someone else.
In post 2867, Scumhunter wrote:@Descent, VE just town told. Being wary of someone calling themselves unlynchable, pure town paranoia and motivation right there.
That's null at most. Considering there's nothing scummy about acknowledging one's own perceived towniness, it's a stretch to say that being worried by such a statement is a legitimate concern. It's just as easily a way to implicate someone that everyone perceives as town.
In post 2868, Scumhunter wrote:In post 2824, Junpei wrote:
So everyone: is scumhunter ninja or is it pinkfloyd? This is some epic body throwing.
This post by the way = LoL. "body throwing" to save pinkfloyd. I've said time and time again that pink very well may be scum.. This is very very obviously trying to make connections where they are not particularly in the scenario that Junpei is trying to bus pink here.
Link, your reads are WAY off. And how do you figure I'm not scumhunting? I've hunted the scum. Now I just need people to listen to me *cough*. Remember that game where I nailed all the scum on day 1? You haven't seemed interested in my opinions this game and I'm getting the inkling I could be writing you off for town too easily here. =/
ProjectMatt and KJ, sheeping the whisper wagon will earn you +1 townie point to be redeemed for -1 suspicion tomorrow.
Yes, I remember that game, but I'm my own person and I have my own reads, so I'm afraid I'm not going to sheep you eternally just because in one game you were very accurate. Also, your current scum list isn't the same as your original list, so clearly there is error in your methods that even you perceive. Furthermore, I'm getting pretty sure that you are scum at this point based on your poorly argued cases and bad play. As for not being interested in your opinion, that's entirely untrue. My first two reads on you mentioned that you needed to post more and things just went from there. I'm interested in all opinions at all times from all players, regardless of alignment. Whether or not I choose to offer said opinions any regard is based entirely on the validity of said opinion.
In post 2903, Scumhunter wrote:VE, its apparent to me (and should be apparent to any town with half a brain) that these "questions" = scum-distraction tactics by whisper. Don't sweat it too much. I know it feels like you are being attacked to the hilt but the truth of it is just that the two most active players today (Junpei + whisper) are just scum dominating the discussion. If the rest of the town is inactive and sick of this game all it goes to show is that the spamming of the thread done by Maruchan and hiplop was so so so incredibly anti-town. It stagnates the game, has a negative utility for the remainder of hte game in draining any interest in a feasible reread (not to mention making finding replacements a living hell) and analysis from a lot of players which is leading to the lazy town reads people seem to have on whisper and junpei here. -_____-
Link you need to reread chkflip. If we are to have any chance to pull this out, we need a) you to be town and b) you to give this game more attention.
Why does the entire game hinge on me being town and being more active? Are you just trying to buddy me like you did with Javert? The fact that you'd call whisper's questions to VE blatant distraction tactics are laughable, especially after even VE himself admitted that what whisper pursued against him was a solid line of questioning. I'm seeing nothing from you but wild allegations and buddying right now and it stinks. Honestly, your vote on pinkfloyd only serves to encourage me, considering how long it took you to put that vote out on him, I take it that you were trying to protect your scum buddy by saying "yeah, this guy is probably scum, but let's go after these two more townie people for some inexplicable reason first", but after realizing that the pinkfloyd ship had pretty much already sailed, you might as well bus your friend for some towncred.
In post 2905, VisceraEyes wrote:@Link
As I said before, my case on SS/MoS was based almost exclusively around her display of exasperation before she replaced out. She kinda appeared town to me before then, and I had intended to go back and see if there was an ACTUAL case to be made after I stated my intention to do so...but as you can see, it was too late for any of that anyway.
Don't play the 'implied-content' card on me Link, you're hardly here enough for you to even be taken seriously saying it. lol I've put a lot of effort into this game, but I freely admit I've been flaking out lately.
I honestly don't know how this turned into a Scumhunter quote-fest, because going through it, I seem to recall quoting VE far more often, and then somehow things changed. Maybe as I read through, my questions just got answered and I decided those things didn't need quoting. Two things stand out to me here though.
1. I seem to recall you saying you had a post all ready to go but deleted it because of the fact that she had decided to replace out.
In post 2681, VisceraEyes wrote:I literally had whole post dedicated to why I thought singersigner was scum complete with unvote and new vote, and PEdit revealed that not only would my unvote be illegal because of the hammer, but that singersigner is now done with this game anyway.
Spectacular, NOW we're going places.
Yeah, that wasn't my imagination.
2. I'll play the implied content card on anyone I choose. See, regardless of my schedule not permitting me to post as often as I'd like, the fact remains that I don't make posts with implied content and empty promises, to my knowledge. At worst, my posts are delayed, but I strive to answer all questions I'm asked and I tend to stay away from stuff near the end of the day where I promise something and then don't deliver or suggest tat I was going to post something but that it is now irrelevant and so no longer worth my time.
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Everyone
: So I doubt I'll be getting those reads that I requested, especially as the deadline looms near. So should I be the one to die tonight, I think the following things should be said.1. Please post detailed reads tomorrow as the day begins.
2. Lynch Scumhunter.
3. Watch VE like a hawk.
4. Consider the others on my scum list as well.
My vote stays on pinkfloyd, because it looks to me like he's copying BBmolla down to the letter to get out of death. Not only is he refusing to help the town, but he put himself at L-1 so that it wouldn't be an actual death. I truly think he's trying to remind us of what happened there so we'll back out. He needs to hang.
