Open 381 - Day 4

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Kassadin for being in that game where I killed myself as Mafia.

[kondi2424]

Wait, mcqueen is in this game?

VOTE: mcqueen

[kondi2424]

Well, it was for a good cause.

It was pretty funny, actually. Literally five minutes after the start of D1, I killed myself.

[kondi2424]

If you want a policy lynch, I could name three (maybe four) other options for you in this game.

[kondi2424]

And you didn't unvote?

VOTE: hokorippoi

[kondi2424]

Yeah, I hate that knodi guy.

@Malee: mcqueen (read any of his games), GNR (lurker TO THE MAX), Pizza himself (lurker TO THE MAX), and possibly Kassadin for a game lost in the crash, but I'm not sure that was his normal play.

[kondi2424]

@GNR: What were you in that game that I was an Innocent Child in?

This is actually an important question.

[kondi2424]

I get it now, Antihero.

VOTE: Malee

[kondi2424]

Malee-hoko connection established.

[kondi2424]

Point me to where he said that.

[kondi2424]

GNR, read in context. -_-

Actually, read the whole thread right now and tell me your opinion.

[kondi2424]

Yeah that's BS. VOTE: hoko

PEdit: I lied.

[kondi2424]

Does anyone have any idea what the fuck is going on?

[kondi2424]

Antihero, it was obvious you had no reason. It was an RVS wagon. But it did draw good reactions.

[kondi2424]

He's right though. Pizza is a megalurker who never gives content.

[kondi2424]

hiplop, are you in this game?

[kondi2424]

For who? Rocky?

[kondi2424]

He also always does this.

Can you explain to me why lynching useless people Day 1 is better than lynching scum? If you give me an actual good reason, I might just go with it. Pizza and GNR are never going to do anything.

[kondi2424]

That's actually a very good catch. VOTE: mcqueen

[kondi2424]

mcqueen, the mafia will NEVER kill lurkers. That would be a shit play.

There, now you have no excuse.

[kondi2424]

So you're saying we should spend our time policy-lynching instead of finding scum?

[kondi2424]

hiplop, can you show me where you see an Elmo townslip?

[kondi2424]

Hiplop, you just became more awesome. L rocks.

[kondi2424]

Also going to hammer here. Claim in your next post, hoko.

[kondi2424]

What the fuck is wrong with you, McQueen?

That claim was legit. This, my friends, is why I wanted McQueen lynched.

[kondi2424]

I'm guessing that the scum kill was blocked by mcqueen and the Vig shot him.

FuDuzn and Elmo get town points for speculating on why the Mafia would kill mcqueen.

[kondi2424]

Why wouldn't they, especially on mcqueen?

[kondi2424]

Hey Elmo, I'm not retarded. Mcqueen would be the best person to keep alive as scum, and I wouldn't NK him "just cuz I don't like him."

[kondi2424]

I need to read the recent stuff.

[kondi2424]

So, Kami has claimed Cop?

What was your result, Kami?

[kondi2424]

Oh, ROLEcop. Coulda made that more clear.

I doubt they're lying. There's two scum left, and if they planned this out, they're retarded.

[kondi2424]

I'ma read through this whole game and post my notes. Wish me luck.

[kondi2424]

NOTES

---

- I don't like Elmo's #24. He has enough effort to post, tell everyone he'll read into a 1-page game, and make a random vote, but not enough to

read into

the 1-page game and make a normal vote?

- Malee was putting pressure on hoko A LOT on Page 2, but switched to GNR for a much worse reason. Scumpoints.

- hoko's mentionings of Malee after that on Page 3 sound like defending to me.

- AAAAND hoko gets Malee and Antihero mixed up. Not sure if this would actually be possible if they were different alignments. I'm going to say that they're either both town or both scum.

- hoko talks to Elmo on Page 4 in a way that I think makes Elmo look town.

- hoko's #94 points to rocky & Malee being town. Less so for Malee as he voted rocky right after.

- brizingre's continual mentioning of wanting to lynch hoko throughout D1 is very town, and if he's scum, that's very convincing bussing.

- FuDuzn's entry into the game is very town as well, and would be an impressive bus. hoko's reaction with him makes him feel town as well.

- hoko's #153 puts Pizza WAY further down on my suspect list.

- Like I said in #218, FuDuzn and Elmo get town points for speculating on why MAFIA would kill mcqueen. More effective now that the Vig is outed and claimed to shoot mcqueen.

- hiplop said Elmo townslipped earlier and then votes him in #228? WTF? Major scumpoints there.

- brizingre1, Kassadin, Elmo TeH AzN, FuDuzn, Antihero. AT LEAST one of these players must be scum. This is the list of people who wagoned GNR up to his claim. brizingre is pretty obvious town, and FuDuzn/Antihero are the same alignment, leaning town. This leaves Elmo and Kassadin. Out of these two, Kassadin would be my higher FOS.

- hiplop forgets this is Open, when he TRIED TO SAY ELMO TOWNSLIPPED FOR THE SAME REASON. WTF?

- I can't tell if Anti's rage is real.

@Anti: Can you link me to a scum game of yours? Preferably one you think you did good in?

- Kami & GNR are town by Kami not being retarded.

---

So, conclusions -

- FuDuzn and Antihero are the same alignment. Kami and GNR are the same alignment. They both have players in them that I literally cannot see as scum. Ergo, there's four town.

- At least one of {Elmo, Kassadin} is scum due to the wagon on GNR.

- Looking at the Day 1 final wagon, I'm pretty sure there's at least one scum bussing there as well. With my earlier POEs, that leaves at least one of {Elmo, Kassadin, hiplop} as scum. The fact that there are two players in both of those lists further proves the point.


By my POE, the only four left are Elmo, Kassadin, hiplop, and Pizza. VOTE: Kassadin

[kondi2424]

Hey Kassadin

You could, you know, scumhunt

And try to be helpful

And maybe

JUUUUST maybe

You would look better?

[kondi2424]

What the actual fuck?

[kondi2424]

I posted my notes already, Elmo. ???

[kondi2424]

GNR, what are your reads?

[kondi2424]

Wait, Kass is at L-1?

VOTE: Kassadin

WHEEEEEEEEEEE

[kondi2424]

heaheahehHEAHEAHheaehaehaeHEAHEAHheaehahe

[kondi2424]

EVERYONE UNVOTE KASSADIN. THAT WAS

NOT

A REAL HAMMER.

Suspect pool reduced to three.

[kondi2424]

UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

Does anyone think Kassadin's reaction to my fakehammer was fake?

[kondi2424]

I was already voting Kassadin, guys. -_-

[kondi2424]

Alright, so both Kassadin and Antihero's reactions to that strike me as town, while hiplop's reaction sets me off. VOTE: hiplop

[kondi2424]

Well then I guess that means I'm on the right track. Who out of Elmo and Kami would you feel better about being his partner?

[kondi2424]

Oops. By Kami I meant Pizza.

[kondi2424]

Kassadin basically townslipped. Even though he's pants-on-head, he's town.

We should lynch hiplop.

[kondi2424]

Hiplop, you can't read me. I'm confident in that.

[kondi2424]

So Elmo, why is hiplop town?

[kondi2424]

Got my prod. Hiplop is still the right choice, unless someone can give me a sufficient reason we SHOULDN'T lynch him.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Anti-hero for #489

*doubly guards balls*

VOTE: hiplop

PEdit: Dammit hiplop your ninja skills are enough alone to make me lynch you

[kondi2424]

FuDuzn, I'm obviously voting for hiplop.

[kondi2424]

No, hiplop is at L-2 right now...

[kondi2424]

Hey Pizza why aren't you voting or doing anything?

Hey GNR can you vote a wagon that has a plausible chance of happening in two days?

[kondi2424]

I've had to leave all of my games except this one due to time problems, so I'll be focusing on this game more. I won't have as much time to look at it, though, so I'm not sure.

We should keep lynching hiplop.

[kondi2424]

Honestly? Because this one is easy. There are SOOOOOO many obviously town people that it leaves, like, three or four left. The game is already won.

Plus I like this playerlist.

[kondi2424]

What are you saying in the first quote?

[kondi2424]

By my POE, the only four left are Elmo, Kassadin, hiplop, and Pizza. VOTE: Kassadin

[kondi2424]

To recap:

brizingre is town because he just is.

You and FuDuzn are town because hoko confused your slots, and that's not really possible with one of them being your partner. Unless, of course, you were both his partners.

GNR and Kami are town because they're the PRs, unless someone counterclaims, which they would have done a long time ago.

Kassadin is probably town because of his reaction to my "hammer" and meta.

Which leaves Pizza, hiplop, and Elmo.

[kondi2424]

I'm... actually not sure on that. hoko obviously knew that this was an Open setup, and he was scum. That likely means that strategies depending on Open setups were discussed by the scum. If Elmo were scum, there would have to be no discussion pre-game.

@Mod: Did the Mafia have pre-game discussion?

[kondi2424]

Wait, Elmo was speculating on why Mafia would kill mcqueen.

Yeah, it's hiplop and Pizza.

[kondi2424]

Hmm.

So far, this is what I have established:

1. Brizingre, Kassadin, and Elmo are town based on play.
2. Antihero and FuDuzn are the same alignment based on hoko slipping.

So, either one of my townreads is wrong, or the scumteam is Antihero/FuDuzn. Time to establish a read on them.

[kondi2424]

You're scum if it's not Anti/FuDuzn.

[kondi2424]

@FuDuzn: I've been saying you and Antihero were the same alignment for forever now.

[kondi2424]

Also a thought: It was already obvious that Pizza was going to be the Vig target, so why would the scum jail GNR if he was just going to be shooting town?

VOTE: Pizza

I might build a case if I have time and will, but that's good enough for me.

[kondi2424]

Actually, the only teams I could see that are smart enough to realize this involve FuDuzn or Anti... or MAYBE briz. Hmm.

UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

^_^

So what are you thinking about this situation?

[kondi2424]

Kassadin, can you direct me to a scum game of yours in which you were lynched?

[kondi2424]

@Elmo: GNR pretty much had every reason to shoot Pizza, and it was obvious. What reason would he have not to?

I also want to know why you think FuDuzn is scum and if you think Antihero could be scum with him.

@FuDuzn #543: Could you explain this logic more?

[kondi2424]

Good, FuDuzn townslipped, which means he and Anti are town.

[kondi2424]

OMFGWTFBBQ

I'VE FUCKING EXPLAINED THIS FIVE FUCKING THOUSAND TIMES NOW

I'm getting the feeling that Anti is the only one listening to me here.

[kondi2424]

...

I seriously need to reconsider my Elmo town-read.

[kondi2424]

Also

Kassadin, can you direct me to a scum game of yours in which you were lynched?

[kondi2424]

I'm going to see how many times he doesn't respond to it. Of course, assuming this does anything, he won't see this either.

Also I already explained why I think Kass is town

[kondi2424]

One of them is him dude

[kondi2424]

I'll play this. In this situation, Pizza's partner is most likely briz, possibly Kassadin.

[kondi2424]

Also

Kassadin, can you direct me to a scum game of yours in which you were lynched?

[kondi2424]

I just took the time to view Kassadin's meta (fucked up by the crash)... I've been in EVERY game he has, barring one ongoing. -_-

[kondi2424]

Nothing I didn't already know, duh.

[kondi2424]

How so?

[kondi2424]

What is the point of this conversation?

Can you give me a reads list based on actual behavior? I will if you will.

[kondi2424]

As far as I know, only once, and I was his partner.

That was a fun game

Why do you ask?

[kondi2424]

The game was Open 386, Lovers Mafia. We both had to be alive. You guys can go check it if you want.

FuDuzn, who are your top suspects?

[kondi2424]

FIND IT YOURSELF YOU LAZY PIZZA It's hard to link on a phone, and that's all I have to play this. It's an open game, Lovers Mafia. Jackal modded it.

FuDuzn, hoko confused your slot (Malee) with Antihero. If ONE of you were his partner, he wouldn't confuse the two of you. So, either both of you are his partners and he confused them, or he confused two town players.

[kondi2424]

I'm not one, am I?

[kondi2424]

Also, I think that game is a good measure of my scum meta, so it might not be worthless.

[kondi2424]

Because I'm not sure whether Pizza or Elmo should be the lynch today. Give your opinion! (with good reason, of course)

[kondi2424]

Well I guess it's obvious you think Elmo since you're asking me to vote him. Sorry, it was midnight

I'mma read both Elmo and Pizza and see what I can find.

[kondi2424]

Haha we're lynching Pizza today. VOTE: Pizza

I double-ISO'd both Elmo and Pizza with hokorippoi. Pizza makes a great partner to him, and I could see Elmo being there as well.

Anti, why did you say Pizza and Elmo couldn't be a team?

[kondi2424]

That's what I mean. Why don't you think Elmo and Pizza?

I think it's Pizza for reactions with hoko that are easy enough to find, and Elmo fits in there nicely as well. On the other hand, those are the only two players I've done that for so far.

[kondi2424]

Pizza, you've helped the town about as much as Kassadin has, with added fluff.

@Kassadin: First of all, could you please read the previous few pages? It might give you your reason, and there

might

be questions for you there!

To keep it simple, there's PoE as part of the reason, with him, Elmo, and brizingre being the only people I really think have a chance of being scum. Then, if you look at hokorippoi's post #153 (sorry I can't quote big posts on my phone), he randomly defends Pizza and pretty much ignores him the rest of the time.

But mostly PoE

[kondi2424]

Process of Elimination

[kondi2424]

Oh, and the fact that almost everyone else has a reason to be town.

[kondi2424]

Also, brizingre, hoko mixed FuDuzn and Antihero's names up. I don't think they are different alignments.

[kondi2424]

Antihero, why don't you want to lynch Pizza?

[kondi2424]

Also, my reads:

TOWN

GNR
FuDuzn
Antihero

PROBTOWN

Kassadin

NULL

brizingre

SCUM

Elmo
Pizza

PEdit: But you can explain that too. -_-

[kondi2424]

But look at basically EVERYONE else. They all have SOME reason they're probably town. At least one of THOSE people are scum. Then look at Pizza.

[kondi2424]

Oh fuck, that's a good catch by GNR, but not for the reason he thinks it is.

He said the statement because the Mafia have a Jailkeeper who will likely be stopping GNR's kill. But he isn't taking into account that we could lynch their Jailkeeper today. This implies that he knows that won't happen today.

I think this very well qualifies as a scumslip. Unfortunately, that makes three slips that altogether contradicy each other (FuDuzn townslipped, Antihero scumslipped, and hoko slipped that they were the same alignment). I'll have to judge which of these isn't true at some point.

UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

I'm retarded. Other Poole have been assuming GNR won't get to shoot again before this. VOTE: Pizza

Your reasoning is wrong though. Your partner in that situation could be the Jailkeeper and a high town read by many, and therefore you know they won't be lynched today.

[kondi2424]

EBWOP: Or you could have just been the Jailkeeper yourself.

[kondi2424]

FuDuzn (assuming I'm wrong about him slipping) and brizingre. Most likely FuDuzn. The whole thing was pretty much hinging on me being wrong about him.

[kondi2424]

Yeah but he's not getting lynched today

[kondi2424]

@Antihero, Kassadin, & brizingre: Can you guys explain why you don't want to vote Pizza (if you don't) and provide a better alternative?

[kondi2424]

I feel like I'm tunneling. -_-

Can someone give me a scumteam that doesn't involve Pizza? Like... maybe you can do that, Pizza. Who do you think the scum are and why?

[kondi2424]

PIZZA YOU SHOULD POST IN HERE!

[kondi2424]

You didn't make GNR clear.

[kondi2424]

This is a post to remind me to make my version of VCA when I can.

Pizza, VCA is kinda biased to favor you. YOU NEVER VOTE.

[kondi2424]

What do you mean what do I mean?

[kondi2424]

GNR is clear, your VCA is showing otherwise.

[kondi2424]

MY VCA

(Key: Blue is confirmed town, red is confirmed scum, and green is people that are town from my POV)

Vote count 1.01

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

)
Pizzadudes7 - 1 (Kassadin)
Elmo TeH AzN - 2 (

Malee

,

hokorippoi

)

Kondi2424

- 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7)

hokorippoi

- 2 (

kondi2424

, brizingre1)

Malee

- 1 (

Antihero

)
Antihero - 1 (Elmo TeH AzN)

Not Voting - 2 (

Rockyhorror

,

Guy_Named_Riggs

)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.

Nothing special.

---

Vote count 1.02

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

)
Pizzadudes7 - 2 (Kassadin,

Guy_Named_Riggs

)
Elmo TeH AzN - 1 (

hokorippoi

)

Kondi2424

- 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7)

hokorippoi

- 2 (

kondi2424

, brizingre1)

Malee

- 1 (

Antihero

)

Antihero

- 1 (Elmo TeH AzN)

Guy_Named_Riggs

- 1 (

Malee

)

Not Voting - 1 (

Rockyhorror

)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.

Votes spread out all over the place. Scum have to be spreading out their votes.

---

Vote count 1.03

hokorippoi

- 4 (brizingre1,

kondi2424

, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin) L-3

Kondi2424

- 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

) L-6
Pizzadudes7 - 1 (

Guy_Named_Riggs

) L-6

FuDuzn

- 1 (

Antihero

) L-6

Guy_Named_Riggs

- 1 (

FuDuzn

) L-6

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6

Not Voting - 1 (

hiplop

)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.

The hoko wagon. Obviously, someone has to be bussing hoko at this point. None of the voters had particularly telling votes for hoko, except briz, who has been stuck on hoko since the first VC. Town points for briz.

---

Vote count 1.04

hokorippoi

- 5 (brizingre1,

kondi2424

, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin,

FuDuzn

)

L-2

Kondi2424

- 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5
Pizzadudes7 - 2 (

Guy_Named_Riggs

,

Antihero

) L-5

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

) L-6

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6

Not Voting - 1 (

hiplop

)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.

No difference from the last VC.

---

Vote count 1.05 (fixed the #s on this through end of Day 1)

hokorippoi

- 5 (brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin,

FuDuzn

,

hiplop

)

L-2

mcqueen

- 3 (

Kamikrazy

,

kondi2424

,

Guy_Named_Riggs

) L-4

Kondi2424

- 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6

Guy_Named_Riggs

- 1 (

Antihero

) L-6

Not Voting - 0

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.

Again, not much difference.

---

Vote count 1.06

hokorippoi

- 5 (brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin,

FuDuzn

,

hiplop

)

L-2

mcqueen

- 3 (

Kamikrazy

,

kondi2424

,

Guy_Named_Riggs

) L-4

Kondi2424

- 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6

Guy_Named_Riggs

- 1 (

Antihero

) L-6

Not Voting - 0

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.

I'm getting tired of this.

---

Vote count 1.07

hokorippoi

-

7

(brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin,

FuDuzn

,

hiplop

,

Kamikrazy

,

mcqueen

) Lynch count reached.

mcqueen

- 2 (

kondi2424

,

Guy_Named_Riggs

) L-5

Kondi2424

- 1 (Pizzadudes7) L-6

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6

Guy_Named_Riggs

- 1 (

Antihero

) L-6

Not Voting - 0

Alright, so not too much information gathered from the individual VCs. We know that there has to be likely one scum, possibly two, in {brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin}. briz literally stayed on hoko ALL of Day 1, and Pizza stayed on me as well. I feel that this brings more suspicion to Pizza, who didn't bother ever switching his vote and never really gave a reason. (Of course, he wasn't ACTIVE ENOUGH to switch his vote even if he wanted to) Briz gets some townie points for his staying on hoko, and I'd be impressed if it was a bus. Elmo and Kassadin are the flyers on the hoko wagon, and I'm betting just one of them is scum.

I'll do Day 2 next time I have access to the computer.

[kondi2424]

So you're saying you don't like VCA, FuZudn?

[kondi2424]

The fact that it was ALL DAY LONG SINCE PAGE 1 kinda makes it stronger. That would be some strong bussing, and reading D1, it didn't come across that way. It doesn't look set up.

[kondi2424]

V/LA Friday-Saturday

There's not enough activity in here. If no one is going to contribute, someone should hammer.

[kondi2424]

Pizza is right in that he should give reads first, but couldn't you have done that before now?

[kondi2424]

Oh god finally

I had a 12:30-5 sleeping time where I slept on this wooden cabinet that was dangerously close to the ceiling and I accidentally set my alarm to 3:30 in between

And I come back to Kassadin being good.

[kondi2424]

Elmo, why shouldn't I vote you right now?

I would ask Kassadin the same, but he probably wouldn't answer.

By the way, I've had a pretty shitty day, so bear with me.

[kondi2424]

Fuck. bare*

[kondi2424]

Who do you think is scum?

[kondi2424]

Elmo? FuDuzn? Why did you guys leave?

[kondi2424]

Who do you think is scum?

And all of my posts are phoners. (tee hee)

[kondi2424]

Fair enough.

[kondi2424]

Elmo while you're here

Who do you think is scum?

And all of my posts are phoners. (tee hee)

[kondi2424]

Now, first of all, explain how Fu's townslip isn't real.

[kondi2424]

I think it was something about him talking about theory, and he suggested that the mafia jailed their buddy.

[kondi2424]

Explain. I don't really see how his reaction could have been faked, but you could elaborate.

[kondi2424]

But do you think we're a team?

[kondi2424]

Fu, you of all people should not suspect Anti. Unless you can give me reason as to how hoko's slip of you and Anti being the same alignment is false.

[kondi2424]

Point me to where he said that.

*hits self on head* I got Malee and antihero mixed up, but still Elmo has not said why he wanted to lynch the vig (who he believed was Antihero).

He confused Malee (your slot) with Antihero. If Anti was scum and you were town (or vice versa), he definitely wouldn't have faced this problem unless he was paying absolutely no attention to who his partners were.

That, along with your townslip, is why Elmo-Kass makes the most sense to me.

[kondi2424]

I would say unvote, but no one is active enough to quickhammer.

Unvote at will when Kassadin starts looking active.

[kondi2424]

Hello, Fu. If you post, we'll be clear as a team for not quickhammering, which benefits everyone.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Antihero

[kondi2424]

Close shave much?

[kondi2424]

I really liked this game.

However, Anti was my least expected mislynch.

[kondi2424]

OHAI TAJUN

[kondi2424]

I personally think that Elmo should have waited for Antihero's replacement. That may have screwed us over.

Fu and I planned today for a LyLo without Kassadin in it. It threw us off.

You can post the Scum QT, Fu. There's some decent planning in there.

[kondi2424]

Except for the scum!

[kondi2424]

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/Si2tkBZ5F4w

[kondi2424]

But it was almost a full 24 hours!

On that note, I think this game was run smoothly. The votecounts were easy to read and there weren't really any problems. Thanks Tajun!

PEdit: Hah, yeah. We actually figured you were the Rolecop. It sucks that GNR killed you, too.

[kondi2424]

...wut

[kondi2424]

OH... So our kill was the only real one! Looks like it was good after all.

[kondi2424]

Kondi2424 would be my pick for MVP, the "Antihero FuDuzn are the same alignment" bit was a thing of genius.

Yeah, I'm proud of myself for that one.

[kondi2424]

I kinda cleared you