Open 381 - Day 4

[Antihero]

because I don't think he's scum

[kondi2424]

Also, my reads:

TOWN

GNR
FuDuzn
Antihero

PROBTOWN

Kassadin

NULL

brizingre

SCUM

Elmo
Pizza

PEdit: But you can explain that too. -_-

[Antihero]

I know that I look bad if pizza flips scum, but /mehdontcare

pizza's flip is pretty much going to be a coin toss, and anyone acting otherwise is being disingenuous

[kondi2424]

But look at basically EVERYONE else. They all have SOME reason they're probably town. At least one of THOSE people are scum. Then look at Pizza.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

We don't have a vig ability anymore, people. Making vig suggestions is useless.

How so? Last I checked, I'm still here

[FuDuzn]

We don't have a vig ability anymore, people. Making vig suggestions is useless.

How so? Last I checked, I'm still here

I was wondering why he said this as well.

[kondi2424]

Oh fuck, that's a good catch by GNR, but not for the reason he thinks it is.

He said the statement because the Mafia have a Jailkeeper who will likely be stopping GNR's kill. But he isn't taking into account that we could lynch their Jailkeeper today. This implies that he knows that won't happen today.

I think this very well qualifies as a scumslip. Unfortunately, that makes three slips that altogether contradicy each other (FuDuzn townslipped, Antihero scumslipped, and hoko slipped that they were the same alignment). I'll have to judge which of these isn't true at some point.

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

He said the statement because the Mafia have a Jailkeeper who will likely be stopping GNR's kill. But he isn't taking into account that we could lynch their Jailkeeper today. This implies that he knows that won't happen today.

Seriously, not even close to a scumslip. I could I

know

something won't happen today, as any alignment? The only thing I know is that Riggs isn't getting lynched today. I didn't know we were in the mindset of "X player isn't getting lynched today" unless X is riggs.

But keep up with that mentality, and I don't even think we're going to lynch mafia today, much less the jailkeeper (and yes, riggs, kondi got it right as to why I said that).

[kondi2424]

I'm retarded. Other Poole have been assuming GNR won't get to shoot again before this. VOTE: Pizza

Your reasoning is wrong though. Your partner in that situation could be the Jailkeeper and a high town read by many, and therefore you know they won't be lynched today.

[kondi2424]

EBWOP: Or you could have just been the Jailkeeper yourself.

[Antihero]

Your reasoning is wrong though. Your partner in that situation could be the Jailkeeper and a high town read by many, and therefore you know they won't be lynched today.

Please tell me who fits into this situation, besides.... you.

[kondi2424]

FuDuzn (assuming I'm wrong about him slipping) and brizingre. Most likely FuDuzn. The whole thing was pretty much hinging on me being wrong about him.

[Antihero]

FuD, possibly. But briz? I think there are several people that think he might be/is scum (I'm one of them).

[kondi2424]

Yeah but he's not getting lynched today

[Tajun]

Vote count 3.03

Pizzadudes7 - 4 (Guy_Named_Riggs, FuDuzn, Elmo TeH AzN, kondi2424)

L-1

Elmo TeH AzN - 1 (Antihero) L-4
Antihero - 1 (Kassadin) L-4

Not Voting - 2 (Pizzadudes7, brizingre1)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, May 9th, 11:00am EST.

[brizingre1]

/prod recieved, sorry
I like the Pizza wagon a lot - won't vote for him yet because he's at L-1 and all that.
Especially after going back and reading the first sentence of this post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3929342, and also the hypocrisy regarding Pizzadude's case on Kassadin.
However, Pizzadudes is not scum with Kass.
Although Kassadin would be worth a vig.

PoE:
Kondi and Elmo are town
FuDuzn is probably town
GNR is town

I'm going to make a prediction here: the scumteam is Anti, hoko and Pizza.

hokorippoi - 7 (brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, FuDuzn, hiplop, Kamikrazy, mcqueen) Lynch count reached.
mcqueen - 2 (kondi2424, Guy_Named_Riggs) L-5
Kondi2424 - 1 (Pizzadudes7) L-6
hiplop - 1 (hokorippoi) L-6
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (Antihero) L-6

Briz, I don't get something here. You say you like the Pizza wagon but don't want to drop the hammer just yet(ok fair enough), then say that Kass is not scum with Pizza, yet then say that Kass would be a good target for the vig. If you don't think he is scum, then why do you want the vig to possibly take him out?

He's posted next to nothing and has been completely antitown all game.

@Mod, going to be V/LA From Tuesday afternoon Until late on Friday, 5th May, thanks

[Pizzadudes7]

Wait, who has been anti-town? Me or Kass? Also, what was up with the whole GNR vig thing and the scumslip. He scumslipped, but I am still scum? This logic, it confuses me deeply.

[FuDuzn]

Calm down Pizza, I was reffering to Briz saying he wants the vig to take out Kass......even though Briz said he didn't think Kass is scum.

And Briz, you still didn't answer why you want the vig to take out someone who you feel isn't scum(or are we having a semantics argument here?).

[kondi2424]

@Antihero, Kassadin, & brizingre: Can you guys explain why you don't want to vote Pizza (if you don't) and provide a better alternative?

[kondi2424]

I feel like I'm tunneling. -_-

Can someone give me a scumteam that doesn't involve Pizza? Like... maybe you can do that, Pizza. Who do you think the scum are and why?

[kondi2424]

PIZZA YOU SHOULD POST IN HERE!

[Pizzadudes7]

I decided to go back through the votecounts and see what we can find there. Here are the Day 1 votecounts.

Vote count 1.01

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

)
Pizzadudes7 - 1 (Kassadin)
Elmo TeH AzN - 2 (Malee,

hokorippoi

)
Kondi2424 - 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7)

hokorippoi

- 2 (kondi2424, brizingre1)
Malee - 1 (Antihero)
Antihero - 1 (Elmo TeH AzN)

Not Voting - 2 (

Rockyhorror

, Guy_Named_Riggs)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.
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Vote count 1.02

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

)
Pizzadudes7 - 2 (Kassadin, Guy_Named_Riggs)
Elmo TeH AzN - 1 (

hokorippoi

)
Kondi2424 - 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7)

hokorippoi

- 2 (kondi2424, brizingre1)
Malee - 1 (Antihero)
Antihero - 1 (Elmo TeH AzN)
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (Malee)

Not Voting - 1 (

Rockyhorror

)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.
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Rockyhorror has not picked up his role PM and will be replaced.

Vote count 1.03

hokorippoi

- 4 (brizingre1, kondi2424, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin) L-3
Kondi2424 - 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

) L-6
Pizzadudes7 - 1 (Guy_Named_Riggs) L-6
FuDuzn - 1 (Antihero) L-6
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (FuDuzn) L-6

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6

Not Voting - 1 (

hiplop

)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.
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Vote count 1.04

hokorippoi

- 5 (brizingre1, kondi2424, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, FuDuzn)

L-2

Kondi2424 - 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5
Pizzadudes7 - 2 (Guy_Named_Riggs, Antihero) L-5

mcqueen

- 1 (

Kamikrazy

) L-6

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6

Not Voting - 1 (

hiplop

)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.
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Vote count 1.04

hokorippoi

- 5 (brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, FuDuzn,

hiplop

)

L-2

mcqueen

- 3 (

Kamikrazy

, kondi2424, Guy_Named_Riggs) L-4
Kondi2424 - 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (Antihero) L-6

Not Voting - 0

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.
[/color]

Vote count 1.05

hokorippoi

- 5 (brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, FuDuzn,

hiplop

)

L-2

mcqueen

- 3 (

Kamikrazy

, kondi2424, Guy_Named_Riggs) L-4
Kondi2424 - 2 (

mcqueen

, Pizzadudes7) L-5

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (Antihero) L-6

Not Voting - 0

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is set at Wednesday, April 4th, 9:00pm EST.
[/color]

Vote count 1.06

hokorippoi

-

7

(brizingre1, Elmo TeH AzN, Kassadin, FuDuzn,

hiplop

,

Kamikrazy

,

mcqueen

) Lynch count reached.

mcqueen

- 2 (kondi2424, Guy_Named_Riggs) L-5
Kondi2424 - 1 (Pizzadudes7) L-6

hiplop

- 1 (

hokorippoi

) L-6
Guy_Named_Riggs - 1 (Antihero) L-6

Not Voting - 0

[/color]

After the shock of finding their town in crisis had worn off, the townspeople began a search for clues. Wild accusations began to fly, with reasoning from "for making me hungry" (which this mod found tremendously creepy) to "for being real sketchy-like" (may or may not have actually happened).

As the day progressed, the town began to work together. A gallows was built; wagons formed, were painted, and finally disbanded. However, once the dust had settled, an awful lot of fingers were pointed at the man who said that they needed to lynch the mafia rolecop, who could tell those among them with special abilities from those without.

A voice rang out from the crowd: "Well, if you insist!"

hokorippoi,

Mafia Rolecop

, lynched Day 1.

It is now night 1. All night actions are due by 6:00 pm EST (GMT-5) on Sunday April 1st. (Extended 1 day due to Antihero VLA).

[Pizzadudes7]

Something that pops out to me here is that kondi rides the hoko wagon right until it may get near a lynch, then hops off. On the other hand, brizinger stays on through the whole thing and never takes it off. Peculiar. I will do Day 2's votecounts when I get time.

[Kassadin]

hm

[kondi2424]

You didn't make GNR clear.