Mini 1310: I Got My Eye On You Mafia (Game Over!)

[vijay2vasandani]

VOTE: IceGuy

Working off memory, I believe IceGuy's DW vote was based on his miller claim. Still wary about Rylai, want him to post before making a decision.

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VOTE: vijay
Can't really do much with the pages failing

this kid. I'm pretty sure this was why I was suspicious of him. Still IG looks good atm.

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Cheers Tierce

@ Rylai: there goes your excuse.

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I don't mind the second point in IG's #21.

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FoS: Glass

Yucky GF tell is yucky.

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^ yeah I was thinking that. We could just do a random dice roll here couldn't we? Idk how but I've seen it done before.

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For the sake of real randomness we could all do dice rolls and add them up. I really like the idea of all cops investigating one person.

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The reasoning behind it is because of the theme it is rather likely that cops of differing sanities will be present. Hence to do away with this issue I believe it's a good idea.

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XD BB man, how's it going?

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Before I go and play Ping-Pong with たかひろ, I just want to say: isn't all cops investigating the same person a severe waste of resources? (We lose less entropy, etc) I'm almost wary of IceGuy/v2v just for supporting it, but I may be overlooking some deeper motivation.

Until Thursday, I won't have time for analysis of anyone in particular. Sorry.

Also, why did you leave Glass out? He also agrees with the idea.

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^ no. Why you no post nao?

P.S. IceGuy is probably scum. With Rylai.

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That's a joke by the way Korlash

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Wait, so are you saying I thought I was actually hammering?

I saw the fakehammer in the other game, (which due to rollback has dissolved, and you'll be interested to know that the guy we all had as conftown was actually scum X.X) and decided to use it in this one but for a different reason. I don't know how I wasn't clear about my reasoning to you tbh.

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@ Korlash: let's not do the sympathy thing. Explain to me the scum intent you see from supposedly not explaining my reasons for the fake hammer.

@ IceGuy and Glass: which part of his logic is crap?

The fake hammer in the other game worked like this. A small 7p game modded by myko. Quilford placed two votes in his first post, somebody(Twistedspoon) placed another vote on Johhog. I placed the L-1 vote as pressure, and Haze accidentally hammers by voting Johhog and FoSing Zane instead of the wrong way around. All in the second page in like 9 RL hours. Our logic was that Johhog would have gone apeshit at being hammered randomly if he was scum. So he was conftown to us. It turns out Quil was not a doublevotee, he was just being funny in RVS so Johhog wasn't actually hammered.

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@ Korlash: just saying, I noticed the variations on my name. Just wanted you to know somebody appreciates them XD

Anyway, I was asking what would reason A be in that hypothetical situation you outlined? Also, you're asking me to explain those attacks which are the meat and potatoes of your argument? If I remember correctly I was playing very shoddily in this game because I had my mind on a lot of things. Idt I was the one engineering any of the cases. How am I supposed to say anything about them?

And I'll be honest, I sheeped that conftown reasoning. Like I said i was busy. Although now that I think about it, it was his scumbuddy who suggested it. THE BASTARD. I'm going to go yell at TS for a while. If I find him.

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Ok Im liking what Krolash is posting so far since he is engaging players which is what we needed.

Kondi seems to only post when someone has suspicions on him and lays back when no one is posting anything about him.

And sorry for being gone, I had things to deal with. i should fully be back by tomorrow.

Dat IRONY. Really man?

@ Korlash: that's the difference. I can't think of any reason scum would do it. Then I realised you don't know my alignment. If you think I was lying about my reasons I guess you're entitled to those opinions. Regarding the attacks that supposedly relieved pressure from my wagon could you explain which ones are you talking about? I can't download the file on my phone so I'm going to do it off memory.

@ BB: there's only one way to explain it. The "kuribo effect".

Regarding DW's claim: I've already stated what I think that mafia goon clause to his thing might entail.

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@ActionDan: I've already explained the situation. But the thing that I found was the best part was that it showed me who was scum. The person who thought Quilford was a doublevoter must have known so through his own personal scum power level. Hence, I pinned that person down as scum. Since I was a 1-shot vig and there was only 7 players, I thought that I was going to win it for us XD so I didn't pay attention when TS called Johhog conftown, I just accepted it and tried to get a lynch asap so I could shoot him. I turned out to be right about TS, but Johhog was his buddy X.X

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@IG: so Glass? With ActionDan as a backup? This is using the list VM had on page one.

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@ Korlash: whatever are you talking about? I must have missed it or something. Your last five or so posts have been to iRonMan (iStark. Get it? XD).

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That's last post before 158, which is where you say I have ignored your post.

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... I don't see anything in that post that is something directed at me. Well maybe for the IceGuy vote thing. Really, I'm voting him because DW is town. Like no joke obvioustown. And IG not seeing that does not jive with me.

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That bolded post, I said I had suspicions on glass and kondi then they voted for me not the way you said it. This argument may only work on Vijay but Ive explained my reasoning to death as to why I believe he was scum.Also very contradictory in two of your posts. First you say Vijay is leaning scum, then you say "Also, fail fakehammer, vijay, but you're still town." And someone explained that if Vijay is scum and tried the fakehammer he was trying to get us to believe Kondi was town.Finally the reason I said I wanted to hear from you is because you replaced Kondi my highest suspect as scum.

You only suspected people that suspected you, and for poor or non-existent reasoning ... and didn't vote them! Then later, you tried to deflect suspicion because "you hadn't even voted them."

I did not say vijay was leaning scum. Town members can make stupid moves -- and fakehammering in and of itself isn't fail, I just think that execution was poor.

And that doesn't make any fucking sense. Why would scum fakehammer to convince town that kondi is town? Scum don't want to convince town that townies are TOWN; they want to MISLYNCH town.

As for the last, yes, fair enough, and I realized that as I read along.


BBmolla, you can't just say someone was obvtown early day 1 and give no reasoning. Clearly, very few people, if any, agree with that assessment.

Is it just me or does Amrun KNOW kondi is town here?

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*awks* makes sense now.

I'm gonna chalk that one down to my headache. Ugh. Will post something worth reading in the next 24 hours at worst.

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I'm more confident in Lucky scum.

K'
Any idea's on his possible scum buddies?
I can't seem to figure out any tbh.

I think you should wait to see the flip first before speculating.

Anyway I don't know what to add, except that I will vote for Lucky if we haven't lynched near deadline.

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Well I'm suspicious of anybody who keeps pushing the Delta claim as being scum-oriented, but from memory it was IG who started it. His inability(not that harsh, but I can't think of any other word) to outline why Delta's split claim has any scum intent coupled together with the fact that he is adamant about DW-scum makes me read him as scum trying to push a mislynch on somebody who is the next best thing to conftown imo.

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Seriously Korlash? come on mate. IceGuy wants to push through with the lynch, and when DW flips town he's gonna go "oh it was a shoddy claim, and millers suck anyway". Also you say that DW isn't scum so shouldn't you be concerned with the fact that one of your townreads is wasting his vote on another one of yours?

Regarding that comment to BB, it's funny because 20 seconds would be a stretch considering.how each of his posts have been so short.

Hi RD. I think I remember playing with you XD you were awesome, but scum XD

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@ Malthusis: I think he just said that trackers and watchers don't affect him in that way. In the post about "gravedigger" abilities or whatever.

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I'm not liking how OOTN has brought up ActionDan. *shiver*

Also, I have to say, BB seems different. I've only ever played with BB as town, and he doesn't normally play like this. The thing that gets me is the posting itself. They're all short and rather infrequent compared to what I remember. I could be wrong, and he doesn't really feel like scum, just different to his town self.

In order of who I want lynched first, it's IG then OOTN.

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Nothing is wrong with calling out lurkers. It's just that the way you did it seemed to be deflectionary in nature. I don't know how else to describe it.

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VOTE: Amrun

I'm not even going to pretend I have a reason for this. Sheep deadline vote.

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*sigh*
VOTE: Malthusis

I'm a fairly gimpy town PR. Personally I struggle to find how it's going to be useful X.X but maybe that's because I don't understand the role. That will be all.

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This is brilliant by the way. I love Zoidberg XD

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*creepily stalks people with dead ghost body*

Go town XD

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Cheers VM. Good game guys. Sorry for claiming gimpy PR, I saw somebody complain about that. I thought I was useless XD

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Hi Korlash. Tell me a joke. I almost broke my collarbone, so I need one XD