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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:20 am

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Benmage, do you have more shots? If so, shoot Yosarian2 please.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:28 am

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I wanted to call tierce conftown, but BBmolla started vomiting lunacy all over her
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:29 am

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Tierce is conf not-blue. I also don't think she's red.

Therefore she is town enough to me that it's not worth my time thinking about it right now.

Whatcha think of Yos2, Staeg?
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:32 am

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In post 77, UberNinja wrote:Tierce is conf not-blue. I also don't think she's red.

Therefore she is town enough to me that it's not worth my time thinking about it right now.

Whatcha think of Yos2, Staeg?

He's signed as town-bluescum------redscumin terms of probability.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:36 am

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Yeah I'm probably not going to replace out after just replacing in. :roll: There's one of you in every game isn't there? And it's true, certain people that get angry easily lose sight of who's scummy and go after people who annoy them the most. My join date and avatar have nothing to do with it.

I don't get how there's an argument for lynching someone who isn't confirmed scum right now. I don't care if you think I'm on an alternate scum team. You should not care what color you're killing when both teams should be at equal numbers.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:56 am

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In post 60, Yosarian2 wrote:Hmm. It's a shame that Nuwen replaced out, after the day ended yesterday I really wanted to question her for her massive defense of BBmolla.

I don't know that Nuwen defended him anymore than I did (to Tierce at least that I recall). Why only bring up Nuwen?
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:03 am

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In post 79, Shadoweh wrote: people that get angry easily lose sight of who's scummy and go after people who annoy them the most
In post 47, Shadoweh wrote:blind anger is a scum tool.

pick one.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:13 am

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Okay, I'm up to post 658 or so- UN's getting horribly scummy.
I'll stop here for roday. Sorry, but stuff kinda happened in weird sequences after the server crash and etcetc but I'll get this game fully done by Tuesday at the latest.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:15 am

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They're the same point.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:25 am

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I want to hear why more people aren't voting Katsuki.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:29 am

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UN better not stand for UberNinja you dumbfuck

Ill read this game later thanks to Tierce link

Then it'll be wake the fuck up and kill the Bbbuddies time
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:31 am

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In post 84, Benmage wrote:I want to hear why more people aren't voting Katsuki.



Because katsuki replaced out of my game and his lurking is not scum related.

Plus he's one of the few townreads cemented in my mind from d1. P. muchh everyone willing to lynch YosScum was town
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:54 am

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In post 79, Shadoweh wrote:I don't get how there's an argument for lynching someone who isn't confirmed scum right now.



What?

WHAT?


back the truck up


exactly how much evidence do you want / ever actually have that someone is "confirmed scum?"

are you suggesting we just sit around and stare at the wall until someone confesses out of boredom?
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:55 am

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In post 82, Staeg wrote:Okay, I'm up to post 658 or so- UN's getting horribly scummy.


He's annoying as hell, but as a double-voter on Day 1, that's a horribly unbalanced role for scum to have.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:17 am

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In post 86, Fate wrote:
In post 84, Benmage wrote:I want to hear why more people aren't voting Katsuki.



Because katsuki replaced out of my game and his lurking is not scum related.

He lurks as scum nonetheless. He lurked prior to the crash. He buddied reck. Distanced BBmolla. Blue scum fosure.

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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:42 am

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because I'm on the fence about Kats and there are better fish to fry than a serial lurker who lurkaderps his way into replacement regardless of alignment

Kats has to die eventually because I don't want him in LYLO, but I don't know that I see him as buddies with either of the flipped scum
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:47 am

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In post 64, Benmage wrote:
Unvote vote Yos2


Oh, please. You were attacking me early in the day yesterday, but you had figured out I was town by the end of the day. The only people really attacking me at the end of the day yesterday was the derp UberNinja, the confirmed scum BBmolla, and the probable scum Katsuki.


In old mini's 8-2-2 was balanced. 16-2-2 :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Balanced, are they? Do you know what the win percentages of 8-2-2 or 14-3-3's are?

But, yes. 14-3-3 is the most likely scenerio here. 12-4-4 is also possible.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:51 am

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In post 80, singersigner wrote:
In post 60, Yosarian2 wrote:Hmm. It's a shame that Nuwen replaced out, after the day ended yesterday I really wanted to question her for her massive defense of BBmolla.

I don't know that Nuwen defended him anymore than I did (to Tierce at least that I recall). Why only bring up Nuwen?


Nuwen's defense of BBmolla was pretty intense and over-the-top towards the end of the day yesterday. For example:

Nuwen wrote:
Yeah, sometimes I'm wrong, but the conviction here is strong. BBMolla is town and his wagon is a gold mine for catching scum from BOTH teams for this reason. I want it to burn harder and brighter than Kobe in 1945.


She never really explained why she was so sure BBMolla was town, either, and I really wanted to ask her about it.

It's especially jarring because I was pretty firmly convinced Nuwen was town before that point.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:56 am

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In post 90, kuribo wrote:because I'm on the fence about Kats and there are better fish to fry than a serial lurker who lurkaderps his way into replacement regardless of alignment

Kats has to die eventually because I don't want him in LYLO, but I don't know that I see him as buddies with either of the flipped scum

Can you explain this? I'm not exactly sure I see the point in first saying that you don't think someone should be lynched, and then saying you want someone lynched eventually...but then you don't think they're scum...

It also concerns me because you don't want him in LYLO but we don't exactly know what LYLO is with this setup, so how to you propose to deal with that situation?

It just feels very wishy-washy-on-the-fence-don't-want-to-commit to me.

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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:08 pm

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Hi Guys

I've been immensely busy. I'm taking a break now to lynch scum.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:15 pm

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In post 90, kuribo wrote:
Kats has to die eventually because I don't want him in LYLO, but I don't know that I see him as buddies with either of the flipped scum

Okkkay... so why not kill the useless/likely scum/dont want in lylo now. Give us more info tomorrow to go on with more flips.
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In old mini's 8-2-2 was balanced. 16-2-2 :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Balanced, are they? Do you know what the win percentages of 8-2-2 or 14-3-3's are?

But, yes. 14-3-3 is the most likely scenerio here. 12-4-4 is also possible.

I dont know the win%. For whom tho? ScumA/B? Town? Thats also old mini's.

I know old Minis town to scum was below 40% win rate right? Like 38% win rate for town or something like that. So.. well... yeah. If 8-2-2 was still passable. Doubling the town. Lol, I think not.

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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:18 pm

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Tierce is town, Yos is town, singerginer is town, UT is town. Nuwen is scum. Shadoweh is scum.

VOTE: Nuwen
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:19 pm

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Oh and look, her playerslot is a replacement orgy:
Staeg (replaces Nuwen N1, who replaced valacirca D1, who replaced Korts D1)


UNVOTE: Nuwen
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:21 pm

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In post 95, Benmage wrote:
I know old Minis town to scum was below 40% win rate right? Like 38% win rate for town or something like that. So.. well... yeah. If 8-2-2 was still passable. Doubling the town. Lol, I think not.


PJ's recent games have shown that a 14-3 or 15-3 setup still tends to be pretty balanced even without any scum power. I don't think it would necessarily be as unbalanced as you thing, if designed the right way.

Anyway, this is a really silly argument, since it actually started with someone questioning me about why I was assuming that 3 or 4 man scum groups were possible, and with me saying that 14-3-3 is one of the most common setups for 20 player multiball games. You're basically attacking me by arguing in favor of my initial point of view here.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:25 pm

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Yeah I jumped at it too quickly, as a vet suggesting 16-2-2 seemed absurd.

10-2 balanced, 15-3 mountains im assuming sure. Multiball I think the hardest aspect is scum crosskilling, and taking account for that. Losing 1 member in a crosskill is huge. Scum almost have to worry about looking TOO town because you'll be Nk'd be the other team. See me in Simpsons Mafia.

Anyways Kats hangs today.
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