Weather Mafia II (GAME OVER)

[kuribo]

uberninja doesn't even think I'm scum: he said on day one that he would vote for me regardless of alignment

this stunningly awesome gameplay decision, along with reporting me for being mean to him, comes from the fact that he was butthurt about me yelling at him in a game we lost as town.

Look who's talking about being butthurt. You're better than this. Stop whinging.

he's the one handcuffing his win condition to a game that has no bearing here. I bring it up because he doesn't like me being on the amrun wagon: but my presence there doesn't make amrun town regardless of my alignment. Especially when he has stated he doesn't care what my alignment is to begin with

[Tierce]

my thing is this: woth one scum down from each team, I would expect them to be leery of crosslynching.

they kinda need one another to whittle the town down a bit

that said, yeah, in multiball you can't simply assume one tram wouldn't push wagon on the other

In any case, I find myself more and more subscribing to the CES-style school of thought of not giving a damn about who's in the wagon with me. 1) Scum can bus 2) my reads can be wrong 3) all-town wagons also hit town. It's arrogant to think you can pick and choose who to wagon with, and allowing others' behavior to alter your vote choices like that leads to dangerous site meta is which a scummy scumbag will sit on his buddy's wagon just so others will shy away from the wagon. This kind of behavior is like trying to get team reads before flips; very few people are able to pull it off.

Seriously wary of what people consider 'regular' wagon behavior after the way I was flash-wagoned as scum in MLP (8 votes in what, less than 24 hours? That carried me through the game with a "that is not a wagon meant to hit scum" analysis

from one of my buddies

, of all things). The main reason strange wagon behavior is less common with scum is the town:scum ratio in any given game.


I just woke up. Excuse the babble. /soapbox

[Staeg]

The whole "not touching a wagon with X" kinda works with bad, not scummy players

[Tierce]

uberninja doesn't even think I'm scum: he said on day one that he would vote for me regardless of alignment

this stunningly awesome gameplay decision, along with reporting me for being mean to him, comes from the fact that he was butthurt about me yelling at him in a game we lost as town.

Look who's talking about being butthurt. You're better than this. Stop whinging.

he's the one handcuffing his win condition to a game that has no bearing here. I bring it up because he doesn't like me being on the amrun wagon: but my presence there doesn't make amrun town regardless of my alignment. Especially when he has stated he doesn't care what my alignment is to begin with

He's not voting you.

What's your complaint again?

Do you think he's scum? Do you think he has a scum agenda?



Quote tags have been cleaned up a bit.
-Glork

[Glork]

Vote Count 2.6

Amrun 6 (Fate, Tierce, singersigner, Untrod Tripod, kuribo, Staeg)
Katsuki 3 (Yosarian2, Benmage, Shadoweh)
Staeg 2 (DrippingGoofball, UberNinja)
singersigner 1 (MattP)
kuribo 1 (Amrun)


Not Voting 4 (Porochaz, hasdgfas, Thestatusquo, Katsuki)

With 17 alive, it will take 9 to lynch. Deadline is set for Friday, March 30, at 6:30pm EDT.
Katsuki is on V/LA until March 22.


Prods are going out to Porochaz and hasdgfas, who have not posted since Day started. However, due to the slow start post-crash, I'm not counting this against their activity requirements.

[kuribo]

my complaint is that if he believes amrun is scum, he should stop fucking whining about the wagon and vote her. If his win condition involves lynching scum, then yes, he is handcuffing himself by not voting a scum read.

if I thought he was scum, I'd say so: the fact that I believe him to be town makes it even more frustrating

[kuribo]

@mod: Poro has posted three times and in fact posted yesterday.

You're right. I missed his name on the Activity Overview. My bad.
-Glork

[UberNinja]

@mod: Poro has posted three times and in fact posted yesterday.

"I like pineapple", "Going off the grid for St Patty's day", etc, don't really count.

[kuribo]

no, the mod said he hadn't posted which would be a prod issue

active lurking by posting sporadically isn't a mod issue, it's an issue for the players to deal with

BIG difference between not posting and posting meaningless stuff

[kuribo]

let me spell it out:

"i like pineapple" = "im here and posting"
not posting all Day = "holy shit, I'm in a game?"

[Yosarian2]

Yosariaqn and Shadow are both scumreads of mine.

Katsuki is the EPIOTME of a vote-park wagon, one you can sit on and the person can fight back. One you can sit on and when asked why you say "well look at his shit ISO. He's done nothing but lurk."

Pro-tip: If you can look at someone ISO and say "look at his shit ISO, he's done nothing but lurk", it usually means that person is scum.

Of course, that's not at all why I'm voting Katsuki, I'm voting Katsuki becuase of a voting pattern that strongly implies he was trying to save BBmolla yesterday in addition to all the reasons I gave yesterday for katsuki being scum. I'd also be willing to lynch Shadow for the same reason.

I don't at all get why you're ignoring all the actually scummy people to go after the obv-town Amrun, the one who actually lynched a scum yesterday while the people you're defending were doing their damnedest to push horrible countererwagons instead.

[Porochaz]

Pineapple was a drunkpost to be fair.

The rest was prod avoidance. Partly because of work, mostly because Im building myself up to reading this.

[Porochaz]

My past self did a lot of voting for UN, I like that move. The blaming Nuwen is not a move I like in these 14 pages.

vote UN

The one thing I can remember from the first day was that singer was off. DGB's case on Staeg is also interesting.

Im just going onto page 9.

[Porochaz]

Benmage irritates but not in a scummy way. Shea makes me sad, but not in a scummy way. Amrum is getting worse in a scummy way. And Yos and Tierce are awesome but most of these are feelings.

[Benmage]

they kinda need one another to whittle the town down a bit

Whenever I've played scum in multiball my biggest enemy is the opposing scum team, because I fear a NK 100times more than ever being daylynched.

We're thinking 3-3 to start, so 2-2 now. There's no reason not to aim for the other team. But unless they picked up on some huge slip. They're blind shooting anyways.

[Benmage]

Of course, that's not at all why I'm voting Katsuki, I'm voting Katsuki becuase of a voting pattern that strongly implies he was trying to save BBmolla yesterday in addition to all the reasons I gave yesterday for katsuki being scum. I'd also be willing to lynch Shadow for the same reason.

Gotta agree here. The distancing with BBmolla checks out. The buddying to Reck checks out. The lurking checks out. Kats is scum at best, and dead weight at worst. I can live with it.

[kuribo]

oh for god's sake, if anything, katsuki lurking is a town tell for him

[Benmage]

Bullet the case on Amrun.

[hasdgfas]

So I didn't realize that day had started. Oops. Will read up.

[Yosarian2]

oh for god's sake, if anything, katsuki lurking is a town tell for him

I doubt Kats not playing at all today is any kind of tell on him.

I'm much more interested to hear your opinion on the actual case on Kats.

[Katsuki]

Hey y'all sorry about my inactivity... had a lot of stuff and what not.

Will get caught up on this game if not tomorrow then the day after.

[kuribo]

oh for god's sake, if anything, katsuki lurking is a town tell for him

I doubt Kats not playing at all today is any kind of tell on him.

I'm much more interested to hear your opinion on the actual case on Kats.

since alot of the case on kats revolves around the BBMolla wagon, that's gonna have to wait till tomorrow evening: I'm still at work and can't read the day one cache from here


Fixed quote tags.
-Glork

[kuribo]

ugh god my phone always fucks up quote tags

[UberNinja]

My past self did a lot of voting for UN, I like that move. The blaming Nuwen is not a move I like in these 14 pages.

vote UN

The one thing I can remember from the first day was that singer was off. DGB's case on Staeg is also interesting.

Im just going onto page 9.

lol, if this isn't the definition of a useless vote I don't know what is...

[Shadoweh]

Of course, that's not at all why I'm voting Katsuki, I'm voting Katsuki becuase of a voting pattern that strongly implies he was trying to save BBmolla yesterday in addition to all the reasons I gave yesterday for katsuki being scum. I'd also be willing to lynch Shadow for the same reason.

I pushed a case on UT, kept my vote there and ignored the other wagons because I didn't think they were as scummy. How is that a 'pattern'? From the perspective of trying to save BB why did I start a new wagon instead of joining the wagons that were already there if I didn't really care who was lynched?

Not voting Amrun for me isn't about her wagon. I just don't think she's scum.