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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:44 pm

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In post 73, Ranmaru wrote:
In post 71, Acosmist wrote:
Because halving scum nightkills is good. I just said that last post.


Only scum benefit from killing an SK.


1. SK is scum.

2. wat
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:46 pm

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Yes it does. You say you are looking for 3rd Party only, yet you mention the person who killed Hiplop is town. This means you do still have reads other than SK, but you just don't want to out your scum reads for some reason.

SK = 3rd Party.

Scum = Scum/Mafia.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:50 pm

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In post 77, Ranmaru wrote:Yes it does. You say you are looking for 3rd Party only, yet you mention the person who killed Hiplop is town. This means you do still have reads other than SK, but you just don't want to out your scum reads for some reason.

SK = 3rd Party.

Scum = Scum/Mafia.


I don't want to get into a semantic argument, especially because you are completely wrong on this.

SK is scum.

Your error results from the fact that, in most games, there is only mafia as the scum group. Because of this, in those normal games, "scum" and "mafia" are synonyms. Therefore, most people closely associate those words. When third-party scum like SK is thrown into the mix, it doesn't seem to fit with your familiar notion of "scum".

So, that is why you have this understandable confusion about the word.

Also, authority: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Scum

I don't know who killed hiplop, dude. I know that I am inclined to think town did it based on the flavor of the kill and the fact that hiplop :mumble mumble trails off:
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:51 pm

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I don't know what you think my read other than SK is. What are you saying you think I know?

And, I mean, wat. My read is that someone is town, not scum.

hiplop being killed by town doesn't mean mafia don't have a kill.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:00 pm

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*nods head*

I know SK = 3rd party scum. They are still
separate
from normal scum.

What I'm saying is, you don't seem interested in looking for
normal
scum. Get it? I don't have to call them 3rd party scum. It's too long.

Also, you saying the person killing Hiplop is town, contradicts you from only caring about the SK ToDay.

Anyways, just vote Uberninja. Baseline will be handled with when NORMAL scum are dealt with. (Meaning you and Uber)
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:42 pm

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Hmmm... "Deleter" is actually someone eh? Yeah, "Deleted" sounds like mod-confirmation to me. And wait, Metroid are bad guys? I thought they were the good guys... when was the last time you saw something
named
after the bad guys? ...aside from MafiaScum.net, of course... ;P

I'm pretty positive based on your interaction just now that you two aren't aligned together. Which is great, because it's what I'd suspected at the beginning of "toDay". Any role-related reason for suspecting you two that I hinted at may have been completely fabricated, and that's all I have to say on that for now. Based on my earlier post restriction gambit, you should know that I like to fake things for reactions. But while you've acted non-suspiciously, Acosmist, Ranmaru reacted extremely weirdly under pressure, and made me suspect him about 200% more.

Do you think Ranmaru could be "mafia" scum, Acosmist?

Baseline, are you the Deleter? If you are, I'll cut a deal with you. You shoot who we think is scum -- effectively giving us a democratic vig kill -- or you get lynched the next day and lose regardless. And if you're actually a survivor (or you lie and say you are), you'll probably get lynched quickly anyway.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:09 pm

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1. You never mentioned me at the start of ToDay,
only Aco
.
2. Acosmist has acted pretty suspiciously, but you
ignored
his actions.
3. You didn't garner any reactions or info when you were faking your post restriction. You used that thing almost the full DaY. That was no gambit. You only backed out because you were called out.
4. I never acted weird. I questioned you on it, and you ignored me, saying "I don't have to reveal shit".
5. You never asked Acosmist questions
until
now.

And finally. You never suspected me
until
the end of the DaY. That change was so sudden, and it was obviously a
lie
. You said "I can start to see why people find Ranmaru scummy" this is a paraphrase, because I don't remember what you said since the pages are gone. Anyways, you were riding me hard all DaY with that strong town read for
no reason
, and then try to say you finally see scumminess in me? I think not. :cool: You obviously didn't see anything scummy in my play, you even made a TOWN case on me. You never called me scummy earlier on in the day because that would have made you look bad. (This was when you were calling me an idiot and saying that I deserved the wagon on me) This was when you wanted to vote Dr. Doo over Hiplop.

I would also like to see what you thought was scummy of me D1.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:35 pm

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^ A perfect example of scum raging that they got caught for the wrong reason.

Sorry Ranmaru. It happens to the best of us. Now get over it and vote yourself.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:48 am

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Now that we have the first five pages in, I'll start searching for a replacement for Captain Greypatch.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:08 am

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you guys, with 4 people we can't even get the majority.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:12 am

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I don't want to fencesit here, but all the arguements presented are pretty soft.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:14 am

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Here's what I got from reading Metroid Wiki:
The main antagonist there is MB. (melissa burgman)
The Deleter is mod confirmed role that can kill at least once.

What I gathered of Uberninja: His play today does correlate well with that of yesterday, and town intentions are seen, such as in post 81
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:41 am

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Votecount 2.2

[1] Baseline ~ Acosmist [L-4]
[1] Ranmaru ~ Uberninja [L-5]
[1] Uberninja ~ Ranmaru [L-4]
[0] Acosmist [L-5]
[0] Captain Greypatch [L-5]
[0] House Lannister [L-5]
[0] Yates [L-5]
[0] DrDolittle [L-5]
[5] Not Voting ~ Captain Greypatch, House Lannister, Yates, Baseline, DrDolittle

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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:45 am

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In post 86, DrDolittle wrote:Here's what I got from reading Metroid Wiki:
The main antagonist there is MB. (melissa burgman)
The Deleter is mod confirmed role that can kill at least once.

What I gathered of Uberninja: His play today does correlate well with that of yesterday, and
town intentions are seen
, such as in post 81


Can you go further into Uber's town intent?

What is your opinion of me and Aco?
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:47 am

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Is it just me, or does it not sit right with other people too, JUST HOW OFTEN Ranmaru asks others what they think of other people?

It's like he's trying to gauge popular opinion of everyone in the game, so he'll know who to kill off at night when the time comes.

And at the same time it's like he'd rather discuss other people's opinions than give his own.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:55 am

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I have already given my opinion on you and Aco.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:56 am

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Stop posting for a bit and let other people talk, eh?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:58 am

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Uh no. Others can still talk when I post. But thanks for nothing.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:01 pm

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Apparently not.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:16 pm

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Uberninja, how familiar are you with Metroid?

I find his process to deal with SK/Survivor to be reasonable, and entirely in agreement with my idea. Furthermore, he provides reason upon his gambit, which is likely and collaborates with previous data.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:23 pm

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Ah ok. What did you think of Uberninja when he claimed his post restriction was fake? Why do you think he did it?
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:25 pm

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You also forgot to give an opinion on me and Acosmist.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:30 pm

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Note that Uberinja could have kept his charades up. I feel that he could have easily kept his charades up, and breaking the PR as scum would only garner attention.
I cannot read Acosmist.
Nothing.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:31 pm

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In post 94, DrDolittle wrote:Uberninja, how familiar are you with Metroid?

Not at all.

And to steal a page out of Ranmaru's book...

What do you think of Ranmaru?
Opinion on Acosmist?
Do you have anything you feel you should say about hiplop?
Do you enjoy mafia?
What's your favorite color?

Hurrr durrrr
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:33 pm

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@Dr. Doo:

See this is where I disagree. I felt if he
COULD
, he would have kept his charades up. This would benefit scum. He already brought attention to himself when he did that human modulator thing, and House Lannister
caught
him. So he came out to get town points, because he was put in that position by House Lannister. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have come out.

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