Nice to see you all did TONS of work when I was out of town
In post 114, Amrun wrote:izak's recent interactions with RD are pretty effing terrible though.
So what do you think about Izak then?
DeasVail wrote:The main difference for me between Xalxe and Izak is that if Xalxe is replaced or he posts more, I know that I could possibly get a townread on him, but I don't think I'd ever be able to lose my scumread on Izak, so I need him lynched.
What would a scumflip of Xalxe/Isa do to your read on Izak?
Something needs to give here between the triple wagon stall, I really dont want a Hoopla or Xalxe lynch here. I think Xalxe is town, and paranoia says Hoopla isnt the lynch for today. Maybe some town read too, but mostly just paranoia about something.
@Izak - Why are you still voting Hoopla? Also its seven to lynch (14 alive)
@Amrun - Thoughts on Shii?
@Oversoul - D1 flip was the vig.
last vote count is off... xalxe has two votes, hoopla has three, one of which is you.
So if you took one vote from hoopla, and moved it to xalxe [/exaggerated gestures]...
eyup
Why are you not even trying to get your "ideal lynch"? Im not sure I have really seen anypony just roll over and resign to self-preservation this fast before.
In post 129, izakthegoomba wrote:Because I have ALREADY TRIED TO GET XALXE LYNCHED MULTIPLE TIMES, AND GOT NOTHING FROM IT.
I...
Really?
Ok here is where I just do not get it.
You are saying that you dont think that you can possibly get Xalxe lynched, when it looks like there is enough there to at least give that a chance. Obviously I dont get where you are coming from, but just the wagon on you feels wrong because its... I dont even know. Something feels horribly wrong at this point, ever since everything came back after the crash the way things are going on just feels way too apathetic and im wondering if you are really town who just lodged himself in self-preservation mode and are afraid to snap out of it or something.
The fact that you are not willing to admit that what you are doing is self-preservation makes me think you are more likely scum, but I have that voice in the back of my head telling me that you are town in all of this and I want to listen to it. Maybe its that I dont really know where to move off to if you are town.
Really this whole paranoia thing is one of the biggest reasons im not trying to push on Hoopla right now, since if he is scum, I could completely see her playing the way that she is. I guess the chance of a you-Hoopla scumteam has died downa bit though with recent developments however especially with the flips we have already had. Still afraid of the ripple effect from Hoopla-scum though, and also Hoopla-town if I am reading everything right. Its just not something im willing to risk to be frank about it.
I think im actually going to venture and try something a little off the cuff here and see if it makes the game actually look right.
Still looking for an isa replacement. And probably Xalxe too, hasn't posted in nine days here despite multiple prods and reading my pm's and being on the site. Go ostracize him.
Wish that it felt it was more than just me playing at this point. Feel like im the only one who keeps trying to reevaluate any of their stances while the rest of you are just sitting there laughing at me flying around in circles.
One thing here though that I cant get past after looking back through neighbor chats is the xalxe/Izak thing when you look at this wagon near the end of the first day
The Izak wagon looks like ??? (5) - ???, flipped town, prob town, flipped town, prob town
It just seems like one of Izak/Xalxe has to be scum from this. But I read Xalxe as town, but as I look back at my recent exchange with Izak im still conflicted about him, and almost think that I was trying to find a reason to get off of him through that chain of questions since that voice is just saying im wrong. Everything else though, including my Xalxe read, says im right tough.
This one is interesting by merits of who ISNT on the hiplop wagon and I discussed it at length with my neighbor already.
The ones NOT on the wagon are hiplop, DV, Rain, molia, Isa and Shii
That reads though: flipped town, prob town, flipped town, prob town, ??? and town read.
That when combined with my early reads of Isa make me thinks she still is scum here, repalcement doesnt change this. I just dont see the entire on the hiplop lynch being scum, especially since I read NS, xalxe and chamber as town, meaning that the ENTIRE scumteam would be Tierce/Hoopla/Izak/Amrun.
I really wat somepony here to try and reign me in and either tell me im just going off the deep end or is really on to something... the ones I trust are giving me nothing to work with here, and that not something I can really work with. I need feedback. Please.
I mean, I think it probably is one of Izak/Xalxe, but I also really see Isa as scum here. Im afraid my reads are relying too much on my other reads though and if im wrongits a vicious cycle thats going to end up sinking me.
Hmm. On that first VC, scum!Isa kinda makes sense, but Isa's vote in the second one just doesn't seem to fit from a scum view. I'm not convinced.
As for me and Xalxe, I think you're onto something. Of course, I know myself to be town, so this reinforces my scumread on him. Please bear this in mind if you do choose to lynch me.
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In post 143, Hoopla wrote:Rainbow, why have you decided to vote Isa now after I've left that wagon?
I really am not sure the answer to that. I did debate an Isa vote when you were there with myself, but I wasnt able to convince myself of it being a good vote then. I think it just took that odd exchange with Izak to make me step back and look at everything from a different angle. I really just feel like there is something missing here, and im stuck in one of those spots where I know more about what I
DONT
want instead of what I do want.
izakthegoomba wrote:Hmm. On that first VC, scum!Isa kinda makes sense, but Isa's vote in the second one just doesn't seem to fit from a scum view. I'm not convinced.
How doesnt the second one fit from scum-Isa view? Basically all that happened was the SB wagon moved to hiplop.
This reminds me of the time in Open 353, where you parked a vote on whispersilk during the speedlynch day hoping it wouldn't go through. An Isa vote is avoiding responsibility because nobody is going to lynch him when he's being replaced and when you're the only one voting him now. Pick a current suspect.
In post 145, Hoopla wrote:This reminds me of the time in Open 353, where you parked a vote on whispersilk during the speedlynch day hoping it wouldn't go through. An Isa vote is avoiding responsibility because nobody is going to lynch him when he's being replaced and when you're the only one voting him now. Pick a current suspect.
If its between Izak-you-Xalxe I still would vote Izak if thats the point you are getting at.
Still looking for an isa replacement. And probably Xalxe too, hasn't posted in nine days here despite multiple prods and reading my pm's and being on the site. Go ostracize him.
How is this not an amazingly excellent reason to vote for Xalxe?!
RD: With izak, I'm back where I was within him on day 1. I keep flip flopping on him. At first, I found him scummy, but then he does other things that give me town. I'm conflicted. I don't like his most recent interactions with you because he hasn't done any "pushing" of Xalxe and has left it up to others (like me).
As for Shiidaji, I had a town read on her, but not for any particularly compelling reason. I hate how little she posts, but having replaced her before, I doubt that's much indication of alignment.
