The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - Summer 2024 NEW SERVER!

[Om of the Nom]

I don't get it, is it because they didn't replant?

[Om of the Nom]

Someone help me defeat the Enderdragon on izak's server.

[chesskid3]

Dear Asshole,



Fuck you.

loooooooooool

[Maruchan]

Maru why wont your server accept my register? I know im using the right one but it keeps telling me im not

Edit: why did that wording confuse me that much?? Fixed it.

the whole Double Password thing, no matter HOW I word it (I am on the third attempt at wording the command), has confused every player to attempt to log in to my server so far except for me (because I read the directions on the page i got the plugin from )

You are not alone.

[Packbat]

Maru why wont your server accept my register? I know im using the right one but it keeps telling me im not

Edit: why did that wording confuse me that much?? Fixed it.

the whole Double Password thing, no matter HOW I word it (I am on the third attempt at wording the command), has confused every player to attempt to log in to my server so far except for me (because I read the directions on the page i got the plugin from )

You are not alone.

I figured it out pretty quick. The server prompts you to type your password.

(Why the extra password, by the way?)

[Maruchan]

New plugin, its how it's coded.

Its actually a good thing considering, so that you don't accidentally typo your password when you first register.

[Maruchan]

Oh also if any of you logged in this morning and went "WTF MY OLDTOWN HOUSE WAS GRIEFED TO FUCK?!?!?"

its fixed. dw about it. new plugin we have allows us to finetune grief-rollbacks 100X better.

[izakthegoomba]

Someone help me defeat the Enderdragon on izak's server.

*Enderdragons

[Om of the Nom]

I was talking about the one in the End.

[Om of the Nom]

ALSO DON'T YOU DARE SPAWN ANY MORE IN THE OVERWORLD. AT LEAST NOT UNTIL YOU SAVE THE MAP.

[izakthegoomba]

What, like the hundreds you spawned in the Nether?

[Om of the Nom]

I spawned then in the nether to make the nether pretty :V
Although it lags a lot and so if they're still there I'll get rid of them next time I go on.

[Om of the Nom]

IZAK, AWESOME IDEA.

MAKE A NETHER VERSION OF YOUR PVP ARENA.

[Xalxe]

I'm still waiting to hear the awesome idea.

[chesskid3]

9 lava bucket v 9 lava bucket spleef MOUNTAIN ARENA

[izakthegoomba]

9 lava bucket v 9 lava bucket spleef MOUNTAIN ARENA

You're nuts, Chesskid.

[Om of the Nom]

I'm still waiting to hear the awesome idea.

Fine, submerge it under the lava lake with flammable materials stopping the lava from getting in.

[chesskid3]

IF YOU GET TO THE TOP AND POUR LAVA YOU AUTOWIN.

[mikehart]

@mike, isntead of what I said earlier.

How about a plugin that plays a game like mafia in minecraft?

Well you could do that already with mail for roles and have gamedays playout in the chat like playing on aim

Anything particular ideawise you can give me? I suppose it might be possible to set up a command type thing to allow mafia to use a /mafiakill command, doctors to use a /doctor command, etc and have the logic run through the various commands. Im not a great idea man when it comes to software. im a much better codemonkey.

Maru why wont your server accept my register? I know im using the right one but it keeps telling me im not

Edit: why did that wording confuse me that much?? Fixed it.

the whole Double Password thing, no matter HOW I word it (I am on the third attempt at wording the command), has confused every player to attempt to log in to my server so far except for me (because I read the directions on the page i got the plugin from )

You are not alone.

Glad im not the only one. I think I said to use something like /register password oldpasswordhere or something like that and I thought it was asking me to use it like /register password(meaning im setting a password) oldpasswordhere(meaning my password I used on the old plugin) better wording might be "/register newpasswordyouwant newpasswordyouwant" or post an announcement on the hogwartia board. I did check there before I posted here

[Rhinox]

@mike, isntead of what I said earlier.

How about a plugin that plays a game like mafia in minecraft?

Well you could do that already with mail for roles and have gamedays playout in the chat like playing on aim

Anything particular ideawise you can give me? I suppose it might be possible to set up a command type thing to allow mafia to use a /mafiakill command, doctors to use a /doctor command, etc and have the logic run through the various commands. Im not a great idea man when it comes to software. im a much better codemonkey.

Wow suddenly this seems like an awesome idea. All sorts of ideas popping into my head. I had a big post, but I just deleted it on purpose. It was a wall of text. I'm starting to spiral. I wish I new how to code in java or whatever minecraft is coded in. All of a sudden I want to storyboard all my ideas for this mod . I won't be able to stop thinking about it until I do.

Whats the best way to organize an outline of features if I were trying to instruct someone else how to code it?

[izakthegoomba]

Yeah, I want to learn Java too, but I'd probably have to give up playing Minecraft so I could put time into modding Minecraft...

[mikehart]

@mike, isntead of what I said earlier.

How about a plugin that plays a game like mafia in minecraft?

Well you could do that already with mail for roles and have gamedays playout in the chat like playing on aim

Anything particular ideawise you can give me? I suppose it might be possible to set up a command type thing to allow mafia to use a /mafiakill command, doctors to use a /doctor command, etc and have the logic run through the various commands. Im not a great idea man when it comes to software. im a much better codemonkey.

Wow suddenly this seems like an awesome idea. All sorts of ideas popping into my head. I had a big post, but I just deleted it on purpose. It was a wall of text. I'm starting to spiral. I wish I new how to code in java or whatever minecraft is coded in. All of a sudden I want to storyboard all my ideas for this mod . I won't be able to stop thinking about it until I do.

Whats the best way to organize an outline of features if I were trying to instruct someone else how to code it?

Just write it out in natural language. Honestly the art of coding isn't writing the code, that's easy and really is nothing but memorizing the syntax of a language. The art of coding is being able to take a natural language description of a piece of software and making working code from it.

@izak: id suggest just looking at the tutorials on bukkit's wiki for learning java. I've heard good things about them. The biggest obstacle to any budding programmer is as I said above, developing working code from just an idea.

[theplague42]

Maru why wont your server accept my register? I know im using the right one but it keeps telling me im not

Edit: why did that wording confuse me that much?? Fixed it.

the whole Double Password thing, no matter HOW I word it (I am on the third attempt at wording the command), has confused every player to attempt to log in to my server so far except for me (because I read the directions on the page i got the plugin from )

You are not alone.

Took me a few times to figure it out too.

[Rhinox]

Ok here's my best shot at an outline for Minecraft MafiaMod:

Here's some hard coded things the mod would need:

Create Player Primary Groups: [observer], [moderator], [town], [mafia], [werewolf], [SK], [any other faction]
Subgroups (may be in addition to any of the groups above): [[mason]], [[neighbor]], [[vanilla]], [[any other role]]

Create Chat Streams:
t: defalt stream in game - Game thread
-Read access: Every Primary group and subgroup
-Read active: anytime
-Write access: Every primary group and subgroup EXCEPT observer
-Write active: minecraft day only

[letter]: mafia communication - Mafia QT, basically
-Read access: All subgroups of primary groups- [mafia], [moderator]
-Read active: anytime
-Write access: All subgroups of primary groups- [mafia], [moderator]
-Write active: set by moderator command (default: minecraft night only)

[letter]: observer chat (dead thread)
-Read access: All subgroups of primary groups- [observer], [moderator]
-Read active: anytime
-Write access: All subgroups of primary groups- [observer], [moderator]
-Write active: anytime

etc... possibly more chat streams available for mason groups, neighborhoods,

cults

- basically, any group that would get a QT in a mafia game, there should be a hardcoded available chat stream with applicable read/write permissions for the hardcoded groups. [moderator] would have read/write access to any group, every other [group] [[subgroup]] permissions as appropriate. When you press the keyboard letter for the chatgroup, it only brings up the window if your group as write permission. If you have read permission only, you only get the pop up if someone else talks. If you have no permissions, you get nothing. There should be some way to distinguish which stream a message is coming from on the popup, for example: '<t> Rhinox: I think Xalxe is scum' the <t> would signify I'm talking in the 't' chat stream or main thread, and I happen to think xalxe is scum. This is for the benefit of players with access to multiple chat streams.

Available commands:

[Observer] chat commands:
/moderate - become a game moderator, your player group changes from [observer] to [moderator]
[Observer] keyboard commands:
t - does nothing (no write access to main chat stream)
[*] - Bring up observer chat stream for write access - * to be replaced with the TBD actually letter

[Moderator] chat commands:
/observe - give up game moderator priveledges
/align Playername [group] [[subgroup]] - assigning roles, basically. Could be set up to notify the player privately (like a role PM) when the mod assigns a new group?
--GUI display: New Group Assignment: [Group] [[Subgroup]] - seen as a notification only by the player who is affected by the change, and the moderator as confirmation
/kill Playername - to enforce night kills/lynches if necessary
--GUI display - on the <t> chat stream, display 'Playername [Group] [[Subgroup]] has died'
--when player respawns, they are automatically reassigned to [observer] group
/daytalk - to turn the mafia chat stream on during the day, works as a toggle?
/day - set minecraft to day (at dawn)
/night - set minecraft to night (at sunset)
--both useful for resetting days or nights if there are delays, or quick lynches, or whenever
Maybe some sort of command to set the day and night lengths in minecraft, if thats even possible (/setday [min], /setnight [min] maybe?) idk the default 10m days and nights is probably pretty good for a live mafia game.
Keyboard commands:
all the letters to bring up the different chat streams

All group commands:
/observe - to unalign, quit basically, or if the mod makes a mistake and has to reroll or something.
/vote [player] - to vote for a player see below for more information
keyboard commands:
-allowable chat screen hotkeys
-PM hotkey - bring up a popup (like inventory) with a field for user and message

I think with the PMs and a live moderator, people could just PM role actions to the moderator, who will resolve them and post day scene, rather than trying to automate and write logic for all possible actions and resolutions.

Although I also think for the size game we're likely to run with 5-7 ppl tops, there won't be more than 2ppl per faction other than town, so mafia could communicate through the PM funtion only and not need a chat stream, I'm just thinking more along the lines of bigger games possibly in maru's server.

I think I'm forgetting some commands I had in mind earlier but anyways... so how to play?

Well everyone joins the server and everyone is [oberver] by default. The server could have a town built, with houses and a lynchpost (lava pool maybe?). each house has a bed.

someone decides to mod and sets themself as [moderator]. Or co-mods. Or [observers] who want to see behind the scenes of who is mafia and what they are thinking while the game is in progress. Yes, it could be abused or used to cheat, but I think mafiascum is built on trust that while cheating is possible, nobody does it. I think we can handle not abusing the system. IDK about maru's server though.

[moderator] then sets everyone's roles and alignments. Once everyone is set, the mod uses /day and announces game start. everyone talks in the main chat stream.

GUI UPDATE: In the upper right of the screen, there could be a list of all players on the server. Name is in say red or yellow for [moderator], white for all players assigned to a group other than [observer], and gray for [observers]. Next to the name in (#) - number of votes. When a player uses /vote, their name shows up next to the name of the player they voted in the list, along with the updated vote total. It would be cool if it could automatically list the order in most to least votes, but not necessary. When a majority is reached, depending on preference, either the system could autokill the player who was lynched and reveal group and subgroup, or the player could be ceremonially led to the lavapool to be lynched, or if the player is not cooperating, the moderator can just use the /kill command.

At night, everyone goes to the houses. All the townies get into bed. Mafia talk and get into bed after they tell the mod their choice. When everyone is in bed, then it jumps to day (moderator is the last one to get into bed). Or if the bed thing is too lame, everyone just goes to hang out in the houses and waits for day or the mod to use the /day command. reason is, don't want no gamebreaking thing like "if you don't continuously move all night you're conf scum!". So kinda the equivalent of F2F mafia where everyone puts their heads down except for scum.

I think thats it. Makes sense? sound reasonable? sound at all enjoyable?

[Maruchan]

stopped at the GUI DIsplay, but what he said is something like what I was thinking.

THere are a set of roles pre-defined in the plugin, then the moderator just assigns them and like types /start or whatever, then the days and nights follow an in-game cycle, with warnign when its nearly over and all players have access to the commands to talk/use their actions they would have.

I think it would be fun, and might get new mafia disciples