Weather Mafia II (GAME OVER)

[Shadoweh]

I still think one of the scumteam is off pretending not to notice this kerfuffel and the other is already on/playing pattycake with his vote.

[kuribo]

shadoweh, it's simple: you voted katsuki during a lull tobdistance him, but never questioned him or really said anything to him. Then you hopped off the wagon and the following day claimed that you tried to wagon katsuki.

it was so obvious, even I picked up on it. And that's pretty bad.

Pedit: yes yes we get it, you think UT is scum despite calling him a mislynch

[Shadoweh]

I changed my mind. He hasn't actually changed his mind, he's just getting off the wagon while continuing to snipe at me. The scum that isn't him does regard him as a mislynch though. That probably makes him the roleblocker's target since one scum should know the other.

The thing with Katsuki: My thought process at the time went something like - Wagon Katsuki - no one wants to lynch Katsuki - Oh they're trying to lynch Uberninja - quick what wagon will people agree with that isn't Uberninja - Staeg okay he's calling me scum and isn't obvtown.

You're right, I didn't question him. I was still trying to get reads on the game. I still have no clue after all these days.

[kuribo]

but you then claimed that you tried to wagon katsuki

one halfass vote with no discussion does not nake a wagon

[Shadoweh]

*shrug* It turned into something viable against *checks* The Amrun wagon at the time.

[Shadoweh]

The reason I changed was Staeg was gaining momentum while Katsuki was basically impossible to lynch at the time because of Fate. I think I was trying to aggrivate Fate too passive aggressively.

[Shadoweh]

Vote Count 2.8

Amrun 6 (Fate, Tierce, singersigner, Untrod Tripod, Staeg, Katsuki)
Katsuki 3 (Yosarian2, Benmage, Shadoweh)
Staeg 2 (DrippingGoofball, UberNinja)
UberNinja 1 (Porochaz, Amrun)
singersigner 1 (MattP)


Not Voting 3 (hasdgfas, Thestatusquo, kuribo)

With 17 alive, it will take 9 to lynch. Deadline is set for Friday, March 30, at 6:30pm EDT.
Katsuki is on V/LA until March 22.

Okay kuribo I know this is hard for you to contemplate but I'm not going to be able to ask you later so just pretend I already flipped confirmed town for a second. Where do you think the blue scum is on this votecount?

[Shadoweh]

Maybe I'll reread this day more when I wakeup. It's a good one to look at since there were wagon pushes all around the scum. Or you guys could hammer me and stop making me play this game, that would be cool too. Seriously nappy.

[Benmage]

Vote Count 6.5

Amrun 1 (Thestatusquo)

Not Voting: 3 (kuribo, Shadoweh, Untrod Tripod)

^THESE PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE.

NEws Flash

SHEA.

Amrun isn't being lynched today. So who is the other remaining scum?

[kuribo]

ben, my lack of a vote right now means exactly shit

i'm not leaving my vote on shadoweh until I'm satisfied that my read is correct, and I'm damn sure not voting her while half the thread watches the kuribo/tripod/shadoweh show.

there is plenty that has happened and could be discussed by you, by amrun, by TSQ. So don't try to make it look like I haven't made my stances clear. You guys have watched the furyworks for like five pages, and it's time you provide substance. Justify that fucking townread that everyone seems to have on you, ben.

[Benmage]

I provided substance for 140+ pages.

Once you AS AN IDIVIDUAL. Breakdown who is town, and who is most likely scum, vote.

I don't need to rehash and banter and do a back n forth. Do you need to be walked across the street?

There's been enough info. Shit.

If you vote incorrectly. Then I'll fix it.

[kuribo]

no, ben, but with Blizzard conditions tomorrow, if we string scum today, it makes the blizzard easier:

we string scum, then tomorrow we'll already know our lynch's alignment without the flip and without me needing to be alive and dig them up. Because if we hit scum today, it's game over if we hit it tomorrow. But if there's a night 7? We'll know we lynched town

I'm trying to make sure this isn't a repeat of UberNinja where my read was so, so wrong.

[Benmage]

UN was pretty obviously town. That whole wagon was atrocious. But there's no point for me to hash it now.

Again there's been sufficient info. Nothing new should affect your opinion. There's been ample. You should be able to decipher through whats available. If YOU have specific questions that need addressing or clarification than so be it.

Shadoweh has done shit all game. His most active day has been today. He's scum. Do you ever remember him questioning anyone on anything in past days?

[Untrod Tripod]

and yet you're voting shea

[Benmage]

And I said I will hammer Shadoweh when the moment presents itself.

Get him to L-1. I promise a good time.

[kuribo]

why do you want to be the hammer? Why have your vote on someone you're not willing to present a case against instead of joining a bandwagon you claim to believe in?

cut the theatrical mysteries bullshit ben, and help us lynch scum

[Amrun]

I agree with Benmage on this one. I mean, my mind is made up who the lynch pool should be, and who today's lynch should be.

I don't mind discussing, and I've really enjoyed reading the exchanges the past several days (which I HAVE been a part of, when I've had the chance), but I'm extremely busy right now. I'd tell you all why, but then we'd all have a screaming match and it would be no fun at all. It's also hell week at school. I'm here, I'm posting, and reading, and voting.

Benmage, can you outline your case for me on Shea again? (DGB, too, when she reads this?) I'm not seeing it. I want specifics.

Shadoweh: if one scum knows the other, and some scum out there knows Tripod is scum ... who is it? Why couldn't you convince them to vote Tripod with you?

[DrippingGoofball]

Shadoweh just dropped a rock-solid town tell.

LYNCH SEQUENCE ABORT

@ Amrun - the BP claim is scumvenient. Plus he's not doing much more than

ad homs

. If someone wants to argue that it's better than what I'm doing because I'm doing nothing, I'll tip my hat and say thank you Ma'am. He's still scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

TOWN

Shadoweh (replaces farside22 D1)
DrippingGoofball (replaces Blackberry N1)
Amrun
Tierce
kuribo

SOMEWHAT LESS TOWN

Untrod Tripod
Benmage

SCUM

Thestatusquo

[Amrun]

Can you share the town tell, DGB? It's really important at this stage of the game.

[kuribo]

oh fuck my ass

I keep forgetting shea's claim

we've had alot of no-kill nights, and if shea has taken a bullet or two, it might help us narrow the field.

@shea: without revealing too much, would you know if you'd been shot at any point?

scum can also be bulletproof, esp. In multiball with two vigs. I need more than just role speculation to get me hard for a TSQ lynch

[Amrun]

P sure Shea has been sitting on blocking me from hurting him in recent nights, and he didn't want to clarify beyond that and I don't think we should make him.

But that's definitely not the answer, so. Possibly from earlier on in the game, maybe?

Shea, could you share if you used your ability on any nights with a missing kill from before?

[Amrun]

Which would be ... n1.

[kuribo]

katsuki flipped annihaltor. We don't know what that was, but we can surmise from cow's role that Katsuki was redirected to cow when cow killed him. We also know that cow didn't flip that night, but the other kill did. Nothing in cow's role indicates this to be the case, therefore I believe katsuki hid the flips of people he killed. (annihilating them beyond recognition as it were)

snifit flipped, no other kill that night.

therefore, katsuki may have targeted shea (or someone) N1, since why wouldn't they use kats' role to their advantage?

it also mmeans we can look back at why the hell Red killed snifit, if my theories hold true

[kuribo]

of course I've also entertained highly improbable things, such as Katsuki was a scum that could forego the NK to kill during the day, he killed Reck, Scumbuddy ben took the credit, ben is the blue roleblocker

but that's crazy even for me