Good vs Evil, Law vs Chaos Reboot - Game Over, Good wins

[Lost Butterfly]

I could probably vote Briz I guess. But won't atm because I'm voting Nacho and he's V/la which makes it awesome.

[Lost Butterfly]

No ETA on a Mina post! Possibly never? I don't know.

What did you do with her.

Hassle her to post for me please!

Also my current reads;

[Town]

Tammy - Tiph - Zdenek - Chesskid - Cooldog - BBmolla - Money - Pine - MoS ------ Empking -- Shadow1 -- Nacho [Junpei - Haze - AVox]- Feysal - LB ----- Pere --- Mastin ----- Briz -

[Scum]

these are mostly my reads except MOS isn't as town as this. also haze is more to the right.

I like the way peregrine is being so useless he's getting ignored.

[Lost Butterfly]

I've already hassled. I don't even think she's read the game fully. Hopefully once this Team Mafia stuff calms down she'll be able to do it but I won't hold my breath <_< this feels like test of faith.

[Zdenek]

The main thing that I see with Briz that I don't like, is that he went from voting MoS, to voting BBMolla (who MoS was pushing hard), while there was still quite a lot of time left in day two. It seems like he was too willing to settle for a compromise lynch too early and with the wrong person. Then today, he hasn't revisited his suspicion of MoS at all, I think.

I've seen Peregrine as town and played with him as scum. I think his play in this game more closely resembles his scum play, mainly because of the lurking. His votes have tended to be in fairly easy places, especially on Jackal. Also, he hasn't tried to push Regfan at all, despite the fact that Regfan replaced Jackal.

Haze looks bad because of how he has backed off of AVox today after pushing for his lynch. Yesterday it was anyone but BBMolla, but today he seems to be satisfied with his lynch. Plus, if he hasn't seen the case on Nacho, it means that he's not reading the thread. Also,

I hope I'm not being replaced.

Just throwing this post there.

NOt sure what to think of Pine atm. Will read AV properly. I'm glad he's picked up the role of obvtown and is poking the lurkers like me.

Please explain this post carefully.

Mastin is being useless, which is surprising, and I could put my vote back there.

[BBmolla]

BB was evasive about his roleblock claim.

Also whoever is actually roleblocking Pine is stupid as hell, there's no point in blocking him.

If he were actually a Town roleblocker, the other person wouldn't be "stupid as hell," they'd be scum.

He's been lurky and opportunistic, which plays to his scum meta, so far as I know it.

There. That's three succinct sentences.

Why are you implying scum can't be stupid as hell?

This game annoys me, I tend to post less in games that annoy me.

[mastin2]

elaborate on this more with specifics and all that

It was originally gut. The wagon didn't

feel

right. Then I looked at the names on it. chesskid, former scumread? You, current scumread? BBMolla, the guy who I'm voting? Empking, who has never moved above null? Heck, there are probably more people that I'm not a fan of who have expressed interest in a Nacho wagon that aren't voting him.

That is not the makings of a wagon on scum. Yes, the argument holds in multiscum. Nacho pretty much can't be Chaotic Evil, (I know one Chaotic Evil member is on there*, and there might be another, since they want to save BBMolla, and Nacho's a counterwagon.) and the number of former-or-current scumreads suggests he probably isn't Lawful Evil, either.

*BBMolla jumped ship from my wagon (which was his original counterwagon) to Nacho's (the current counterwagon) as soon as Nacho's wagon began to form, by the way. If you didn't think he was being opportunistic scum before, this should convince you of it.

Mastin is being useless

Yes, because pushing for BBMolla's death is

so

useless.

The Nacho wagon needs to die. Do not lose focus on today's lynch--BBMolla. The other wagons being formed are nothing but distractions, and quite frankly, they scream scum-motivated, as last-ditch efforts to get attention off of BBMolla.

[BBmolla]

*BBMolla jumped ship from my wagon (which was his original counterwagon) to Nacho's (the current counterwagon) as soon as Nacho's wagon began to form, by the way. If you didn't think he was being opportunistic scum before, this should convince you of it.

Jumping from a weaker scumread to a stronger one is scummy?

[mastin2]

Given the timing?

Yes.

[Regfan]

Sigh, Mastins posts make me want to punch something. Now I remember why I tried to quit this site.

[CooLDoG]

I mean the Nacho case is a comination of
Nacho is a good player and is VERY capable of being obvtown
and instead he's lurking his fucking ass off and being shady

This has to be the funniest case ever. I agree with you on your points. However, as much as I hate it I have to say that bb/pine is a better lynch.

Nacho/tp in my opinion will have to be lynched. It seems odd that both the new players are just as dysfunctional as the initial players in those slots.

[mastin2]

...Add in Cooldog (scumread) to the list of people pushing the Nacho wagon as yet another reason to never again consider Nacho scum.

[TiphaineDeath]

Mos, I belive you to be wrong, pines three sentances convinced me more than anything any of the rest of you have said.

I need to think more :/. Its still between BB and Briz for me.

[Pine]

...Add in Cooldog (scumread) to the list of people pushing the Nacho wagon as yet another reason to never again consider Nacho scum.

Don't forget that we're in multiscum.

[chesskid3]

...Add in Cooldog (scumread) to the list of people pushing the Nacho wagon as yet another reason to never again consider Nacho scum.

so

You have 4 scumreads
on one wagon

when there's 2 of one kind of scum left
and 3 of another

and you think the wagon is the counterwagon to a wagon on one of the two scum left?

[chesskid3]

Were you born without any brains or did something happen after?

[Shadow1psc]

This is the first time I don't find Chess completely off base.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Mos, I belive you to be wrong, pines three sentances convinced me more than anything any of the rest of you have said.

I need to think more :/. Its still between BB and Briz for me.

Are you fucking kidding me?

If he were actually a Town roleblocker, the other person wouldn't be "stupid as hell," they'd be scum.

1) This doesn't even make sense. BB was clearly trying to claim that a scum roleblocker would be stupid to block Pine. "Stupid as hell" and scum are not mutually exclusive things, and BB in no way tried to imply that. Pine's "case" here is a gross misrepresentation of what BB said...and I'm saying this despite the fact that BB is obviously scum anyway!

He's been lurky and opportunistic, which plays to his scum meta, so far as I know it.

2) I've said this like 5 different times so far, so it's utter bullshit for you to claim that #2 is more convincing than what anyone else has said.

There. That's three succinct sentences.

3) Pine's third sentence wasn't even part of his case!

TD, you have some explaining to do.

[Junpei]

Sigh, Mastins posts make me want to punch something.

My feelings exactly.

[CooLDoG]

Were you born without any brains or did something happen after?

Technically he would still have to have a brain. You need a CNS in order to actually live.

Anyway. More BB/pine votes now.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Were you born without any brains or did something happen after?

Technically he would still have to have a brain. You need a CNS in order to actually live.

Anyway. More BB/pine votes now.

This was a completely useless post.

[TiphaineDeath]

what do you mean I have some explaining to do? There were three, succinct sentances, he presented the case well, and no, no it wasn't, I believe the first one was seperated from the bototm two with a quote was it not?

[Lost Butterfly]

earlier today mastin's reads were so shit he did a complete 180

and now he's confident enough again. (also lol @ a former scumread being a reason to avoid a wagon? and you had a scum read on this slot yesterday, remember all your reads were wrong)


he doesn't feel like someone who's changed his stances because of not being nightkilled but someone who saw a convenient opportunity to switch. or maybe it's what chesskid said actually idrk.

or something

wow.

[Seacore]

Vote Count 3.4

mastin2 (2) -

Tammy, brizingre1

BBmolla (9) -

Junpei, Mastermind of Sin, Moneybags, mastin2, Haze, AurorusVox, Feysal, Pine, CooLDoG

brizingre1 (1) -

Regfan

CooLDoG (2) -

Shadow1psc, PeregrineV

Nachomamma8 (5) -

chesskid3, Zdenek, BBmolla, Lost Butterfly, Empking

Not Voting (2) - Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath

Prodding - brizingre1, Tammy

(expired on 2012-05-09 00:00:00) until deadline
With 21 alive, 11 are needed to secure a lynch.

[Moneybags]

Why isn't BB lynched yet.

[Tammy]

I don't really remember my Nacho read. But...

Nachomamma8 (4) - chesskid3, Zdenek, BBmolla, Lost Butterfly

...With a wagon like this, I can tell you it definitely makes me want to say he's town.

I'm feeling a bit of deja-vous. Wasn't obvtown Shadoweh's wagon driven by scum too?