Open 397: Pick Your Poison! Game Over!

[Chrimi]

It wasn't then.

The sarcasm was in the post of "you must be scum!"

If I hadn't been sarcastic, you would've been at the front of the list.

P-Edit: Awww I'm sorry... I'll return to the T&P case of yours once BK flips or the cases on him are dissolved.

[BK201]

anyways basically there is 1-3 scum on the wagon that was on me, because that case(?) was rubbish and votes for me sure did pile up fast.

[Chrimi]

Shit.
VOTE: T&P

Saw something.

[BK201]

srsly what are the cases on me? I am on the verge of getting modkilled for being stupid and talking about 387 while it was ongoing, it's over now so I'll explain my unvote on Thomith. ( I brought up a game *again* saying Thomith was in it, but I did in no way suggest it was ongoing, that was Thomith, but I do deserve that final warning) So I was sure Thomith was town that game because he was supporting a Kass lynch all game. Turns out he was the final scum which explains why he thought I was scum for voting kass. That doesn't clear him as town, but it's enough for me to unvote him for now.
So then I'm left with a freed up vote after the Thomith back-to-back. *looks at people carelessly voting for me despite the lack of a case. it's like they watched me vs thomith and used it as an excuse to vote me. funny thing is if u pay attention Thomith was the one misreading which I pointed out.

So what is the case on me?? I almost don't care so we can get an easy win when you see I'm town(at least 2 scum on my wagon when it was at it's peak), but at the same time mislynch is still frustrating.

[BK201]

I don't know what to think of that sudden change Chrimi, but I'm out of steam for now.

[RachMarie]

@ BK

It is frustrating especially when you cant use anything in an ongoing game and sometimes the best thing is in that ongoing game I can really relate here. Basically the only game I really can refer to with any real depth is Newbie 1206 because of that. Still overall you really did handle the pressure well. It is making me get more of a towny feel for you. I feel pretty good atm where my vote is.

@Thomith

Sometimes caution is a good thing. I remember one of the early newbie games I read for research (lost in the crash unfortunately), they had a quick bandwagon on an RVS vote and ended the day like on page TWO or something it was unreal and of course a total mislynch. Even with mass claim at the end in Lylo and the cop doing his best due to a rather VI player who lurked like mad voting for the cop and ending in a scum win. The whole game I believe was like 20 pages or something like that it was something.

Another newbie game I read at that time also mislynched really early some dude came along when the lynchee was at L-1 and dropped a hammer out of the blue and everyone was WTF?? That one was one of the ones NS modded. Can't remember the number but had hohum, CCV, Galaxy and some others in it.

So if I am a tad cautious I have reasons for it maybe with this being a non newbie game I don't need to be as cautious, but some of our players make me a tad nervous by their playstyle.

[raspberrylicious]

i'm asking you, do you think defensive means you are nervious or just trying not to get lynched?
both factions need to defend you know
scum dont want to die
town dont want to get mislynched

Yes, but it's scummy if you're nervous about it.

UNVOTE: BK

[Lastsurvivor]

I can confirm that Rach makes a lot of noise and elaborates a lot on stuff. It's why we kept her alive as scum in N1206. That was a bad mistake since she was doc but meh.

There's a difference between how Rach posted then and how she's posting now though. Chrimi, do you see what I see?

[BK201]

i'm asking you, do you think defensive means you are nervious or just trying not to get lynched?
both factions need to defend you know
scum dont want to die
town dont want to get mislynched

Yes, but it's scummy if you're nervous about it.

UNVOTE: BK

Do you think I'm scummy or not?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Nobody Special & Saint Kerrigan have 48 Hours to pick up their prod & Post before I start looking for a replacement.

Day 1 Vote Count, #12

With 13 Alive it takes

7

to Lynch

BK201 - 2 - (Kassadin, SaintKerrigan) (L-5)
Thomith - 1 - (glowball) (L-6)
RachMarie - 4 - (Nobody Special, Terrance And Phillip, borkjerfin, Thomith) (L-3)
Terrance And Phillip - 3 - (Chrimi, BK201, Lastsurvivor) (L-4)
rasberrylicious - 2 - (RachMarie, TheFool) (L-5)

Not Voting: rasberrylicious

Any Errors let me know.
Deadline is in (expired on 2012-05-12 03:00:00)

Remember town can "Bank" days. & I am not extending day unless someone gets replaced.

[Kassadin]

VOTE: rachmarie

[BK201]

VOTE: rachmarie

Why is Rach scummy?

[Kassadin]

im following the wagon

[RachMarie]

^^
MAJOR Scummy Points here

[RachMarie]

LOL LS you mean the mega walls yeah not gonna do those any more I keep it short and sweet now, and keep walls to only when I can't avoid them. Also you may see more of me now I am not as sick as I was no more fever cooking my brain.

Plus I have been really frustrated I thought I was annoyed with Gun, but at least he TALKED.

[Terrance and Phillip]

I had not noticed that til after our interchange TBH. Still my point is we do have a lot of loose cannons in this game after all look at T and P too.

At risk of sounding stupid [you are stupid, Terrance], what's a loose cannon?

@T&P: Yeah, it does suck when scum is obvtowned into LYLO. It also sucks when there are few legitimate town reads to go around because scum keeps on denouncing them.

Would you rather have a bunch of wrong town reads, or few accurate town reads?

I, Phillip/2birds1stone don't feel particularly motivated/compelled to vote anyone; however, Terrance wants to sheep the Rach wagon.

VOTE: RachMarie

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

*Censored by Terrance

Alright you have a decent case LS. @Chrimi, I also don't like when people park on a wagon and leave. this above quote + LS's case is why imma vote the hydra. I don't like how you can throw out disclaimers in case things go bad by saying for example "I don't really want to vote this person, but my other head does, etc etc". A hydra should act as one being, not two people that share a vote and can save themselves with disclaimers.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: T&P

Phillip/2birds1stone here, to clarify: it's not a disclaimer. Well, to a degree it is, but it's not a "I think this wagon is a bad idea" disclaimer. It's a "meh, I don't actually feel particularly strongly about anyone atm", with Terrance going "Eeeeeeeee, killing time, let's lynch Rach". I'm like, "sure, she's as good a day one lynch as anyone". Unfortunately, we're only Canadian, we can't fully agree 100% of the time, but Terrance is not acting in contradiction with my opinion, and we do fully stand by each other's actions. That's why we're not voting BK201, because we want to act in a way we're both okay with.

Shit.
VOTE: T&P

Saw something.

... You did? Enlighten us, what did you see? Was it a... wait... no, we won't make a fart joke here... As much as we'd like to.

Rasp is a horrible wagon. Both Rasp and Kass need to live until day two, then we can start lynching them.

[Chrimi]

im following the wagon like a good little scum

[Chrimi]

Chrimi, do you see what I see?

Depends on what you see.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Glowball has been Prodded. Also because I'm feeling generous Ill give 48 hrs to pick up prods & post before I look for replacements.

Day 1 Vote Count, #13

With 13 Alive it takes

7

to Lynch

BK201 - 2 - (SaintKerrigan) (L-6)
Thomith - 1 - (glowball) (L-6)
RachMarie - 5 - (Nobody Special, Terrance And Phillip, borkjerfin, Thomith, Kassadin) (L-2)
Terrance And Phillip - 3 - (Chrimi, BK201, Lastsurvivor) (L-4)
rasberrylicious - 2 - (RachMarie, TheFool) (L-5)

Not Voting: rasberrylicious

Any Errors let me know.
Deadline is in (expired on 2012-05-12 03:00:00)

[RachMarie]

@BK
Looks like now the votes are piling up on me fast. There is probably scum on my wagon as well.

I have a fairly towny read on Bork and Thomith, so that leaves NS (who is being uber lurky), T and P, and Kassadin.

While I look at their ISOs again and see which one I feel is most scummy to make a case on, Ponder this. Part of the issue of this game is the extremely low level of activity as a couple people have pointed out.

Would it make more sense to go for someone who is scummy who actually is not participating much or someone who is fairly active? Seems to me that there are others who a much more solid case could be made on who have not helped town one iota in scum hunting. I think a couple other people have commented on this as well. The town is not going to get much information if this continues at this rate.

[RachMarie]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... rt_order=d

Might take a look at that while you are thinking.

[Nobody Special]

unvote

Reading now. So this game is a thing, huh?


SPESHUL NOTE for those who have never played with me before: I'm totally, absolutely, frantically useless Day One. My logic n stuff never kicks in till after a flip or three.

The more you know.

[Nobody Special]

Would it surprise you that I said similar things in Newbie 1206 where I was the doc?

Tell me how that relates AT ALL to this game. Use small words. Type slowly.

I am a cautious player.

Okay, I'll bite.

Why are so overly cautious?

Nevermind, you've answered already.


raspberry: do you have any completed town games onsite?

Shit.
VOTE: T&P

Saw something.

Share with the class.

[Terrance and Phillip]

Okay, there are three days left in deadline, and there's one wagon which looks like lynching.

If we wait till L-1 for Rach to claim, we may not have time to assemble a new wagon.

We truly hate to no-lynch day one, we assume we're all familiar with the maths behind this.

So, we don't feel we're out of line in asking Rach to claim.

[BK201]

need moar votes on T&P hydra.