In post 1236, Parama wrote:I haven't read much of what you've posted mostly because due to the Chiaro/Pirate combo I've pretty much written you off as scum already.
But you know both of them were bad.
How could you not smell that foul stench?
Sure, I've fucked up, but I've admitted it. Them? They've just shit in this game and then left.
I clean that shit up Parama. It smells nice in here now.
ah fuck it.
this is useless
you're going to tunnel me for the rest of the game regardless of anything
Nuwen 1206 wrote:I believe Yos' claim, especially with the extra tidbits in Shos' flavor. Shos has no reason to verify Yos' claim as scum: he could fake a guilty track, or just keep quiet and let Yos take the heat for the only successful kill last night.
I don't see shos verifying any claims anywhere.
Hiraki, not Shos. The one with the wagon on his face.
The flavor in Hiraki's vision claims can really only be understood in one way: Yos dropped a French medallion at the scene of Elmo's viggin', which fits with the flavor of Yos' nameclaim. Hiraki has NO incentive to reveal this information as scum. He could have stayed silent, said ANYTHING condemning about Yos.
In post 1156, Yosarian2 wrote:
Also, why the hell are you voting me here? It should be pretty obvious that I'm telling the truth, unless you really think that the scum killed elmo?
Explain to me how you could possibly think that "Yos is scum" is a plausible explanation here.
Furc, you still haven't answered this question between the time you hopped from Yos' wagon to mine. Do you think Yosarisan is scum-claiming-vig? If not,
in what scenario could he possibly be scum
?
So high, so low, so many things to know.
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In post 1241, Nuwen wrote:
The flavor in Hiraki's vision claims can really only be understood in one way: Yos dropped a French medallion at the scene of Elmo's viggin', which fits with the flavor of Yos' nameclaim. Hiraki has NO incentive to reveal this information as scum. He could have stayed silent, said ANYTHING condemning about Yos.
In post 1164, Hiraki wrote:
So, I decided to go check out Elmo's crimescene some more.
I inspect the glass and find a medallion. Suddenly, because I picked up the medallion, I receive three visions.
The murderer had this medallion before, as he dropped it after he committed the murder. A vision of a tricolor flag(white isn't a color bitches) And finally, a man cutting his cape and muttering the word Martin.
Yos' name is Françoise Dupont.
So uh, the 'murderer' is the vig, Yos, who had the medallion before..how does that fit with his nameclaim? what is the relevance?
Hiraki may as well just be inventing stuff, you know. there is nothing that can confirm what he says. we've already noted how he invented the 'white isn't a color' part of his vision. in fact, Mod said he shan't answer the question about it, not approve OR disprove. perhaps that is because it is all made up?
@hiraki: when you said 'So, I decided to go check out Elmo's crimescene' - what did you mean? is that some role of yours that has the power to visit crimescenes and find hints? why did you add the 'white' part if that was just your opinion?
Shos wrote:@hiraki: when you said 'So, I decided to go check out Elmo's crimescene' - what did you mean? is that some role of yours that has the power to visit crimescenes and find hints? why did you add the 'white' part if that was just your opinion?
My way of paraphrasing the Vision PM.
But yes, the PM does say that I went to the crime scene.
"White isn't a color" reads like a spergtastic reaction, in the same vein as people who go out of their way to argue to argue that simple addition arithmetic are not absolute values because other base number systems exist.
The French flag IS called Le Tricolor. Like, that's the historic and colloquial name for it in the same way that the American Flag is called Old Glory. Hiraki himself doesn't seem to be making the connection here, which reads all the more like clueless town. The paraphrase of his visions pretty much verifies that Yos (Françoise Dupont,
French
police investigator) was at the scene of the crime. This lines up with Yos' claim to have shot Elmo. Hiraki, as scum, has no reason to add credibility to Yos' vig claim if he's scum. He would be interested in laying dis-credibility to the claim or outright ignoring it while the town speculates on whether Yos is claiming his shot at an SK etc.
The fact that Yos came forward and claimed his shot speaks of a town motivation to me.
Behind all the fucking red herrings in this game, THERE'S STILL A POTENTIAL GUILTY OUT THERE.
IF YOU ARE A ROLEBLOCKER, YOU PROBABLY HIT THE SCUM KILL AND SHOULD ACT ACCORDINGLY
.
So high, so low, so many things to know.
aim:gochat?roomname=ScumChat&Exchange=5
In post 1245, Nuwen wrote:"White isn't a color" reads like a spergtastic reaction, in the same vein as people who go out of their way to argue to argue that simple addition arithmetic are not absolute values because other base number systems exist.
The French flag IS called Le Tricolor. Like, that's the historic and colloquial name for it in the same way that the American Flag is called Old Glory. Hiraki himself doesn't seem to be making the connection here, which reads all the more like clueless town. The paraphrase of his visions pretty much verifies that Yos (Françoise Dupont,
French
police investigator) was at the scene of the crime. This lines up with Yos' claim to have shot Elmo. Hiraki, as scum, has no reason to add credibility to Yos' vig claim if he's scum. He would be interested in laying dis-credibility to the claim or outright ignoring it while the town speculates on whether Yos is claiming his shot at an SK etc.
The fact that Yos came forward and claimed his shot speaks of a town motivation to me.
Behind all the fucking red herrings in this game, THERE'S STILL A POTENTIAL GUILTY OUT THERE.
IF YOU ARE A ROLEBLOCKER, YOU PROBABLY HIT THE SCUM KILL AND SHOULD ACT ACCORDINGLY
.
as a start, why didn't you say it earlier, about the fact that 'le tricolor' is the name of the flag? I had no idea about it. generally, this means that the vision merely confirmed the claim that Yos has killed elmo - which nobody even considered discreditting, last I remember. the only thing that is NOT related to that is the name Martin.
so what are you saying? that makes you think that Hiraki is town?
Quilford/Elmo and UberNinja were competing wagons during early stage:
going to blue out confirmed innocents. Going to green out speculative PIs (Yosarian, Kanye) based on my previous post.
Scum benefits of having parallel town wagons competing.
Unconfirmed players in the UN wagon: shos, Nuwen, Zar, Hiraki, Furcolow.
So: who's been in BOTH town confirmed wagons? Furcolow, Chiaro/Pirate/Hiraki, Nuwen
I doubt Furcolow and Nuwen are scum together, unless they have chosen to go by voting together. Hiraki was the turning point of the wagon between me and UberNinja. Had Ninja flipped guilty, he would have been a VPI. Scum would have known both wagons favored them, so all they would have to do is wait for one of the wagons to pick enough steam to lynch and switch.... and who did just that?
