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[inte]

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obvious town NS.

i just fucking choked on my coffee

you're hilarious

Humor me.

Why is NS scum?

Hiraki is scumbuddies with NS, got it

Really not getting this.

As much as I'm still

very

on the line about NS.

Vote: Inte

Says the guy who's voting obvious town NS.

Alarm bells ringing.

Hiraki, wtf.

looks like he was on to something

Hiraki, how on earth can you think he's "obvious" town. I mean, seriously. One comment where he acts like I didn't answer his question and talks down to me, yup that totally makes him town. Again.. if he's town, he's shitty town.

If he's scum, Hiraki's scum too,

I betcha betcha. I say we get rid of the shitty player, see his flip, and decide where to go after that.

noraa for towny 2012

I am instinctively wary of Techno's assertion that NS scum = Hiraki scum. Using absolutes like that...it feels like a trap.

this is something scum would say to save their buddies. noted association

wait a second, this doesn't even fucking make sense. noraa called him out first on it, but Pine only called out TeChNoWC? pretty sure thats bullshit

if noraa = scum, pine = scum. i feel like im going to be biased against noraa because shes already in the town category for me, so pay attention for more shit like this

memes are low forms of humor btw guys

Post 910

okay i guess

can you literally only post snippy retorts that dodge the point, shut up god damn

This is the kind of airtight argument that has me on the chopping block, ladies and gentlemen.

Which point did I dodge? If you examine it closely, you'll notice that my "snippy retort" addressed the core problem with your argument.

i still don't see a mogri case. this shits gotta be scum motivated

someone in { BK201, Hiraki, crypto, Nobody Special, petapan } has to be scum

at this point crypto is pretty townie, even if he is a douche. id still like to see a mogri case

Post 946

@Kairyuu

quick question, can you link where the actual ad hominem is. yes, this is important

afk class

[Nobody Special]

why hasn't Nobody Special been lynched yet?

Because I'm obvtown, duh. Do try to keep up.

[crypto]

noraa for towny 2012

there's a 99% chance that there are two scum teams. meaning that stuff is easy to fake.

[Mogri]

pine has been pretty bad this game but him being disinterested doesn't really point to him being scum, reach harder mogri

Thanks for reading my post! Read harder next time. His disinterest has nothing to do with why I'm voting for him. I'm more interested in, say, his out-and-out lie. Or his excuses that attempt to cover for any bad play past, present, and future. Or his absolute vacuum when it comes to scumhunting.

And yet no one seems to care.

id still like to see a mogri case

me too

[noraaa]

I don't understand the logic suggesting that freaking out over getting voted is a scum tell. But whatever. I'm not a very good player and I suspect that by the end of this game I will have lynched more than my fair share of townies, so I'll drop it. I just find it difficult to believe that so many people gained a legitimate scum read on him.

Well I came a page or so late, so I see Kairyuu make a big logical post, and then instead of being all calm and analytical like he's been all game, TeCh freaked out. And then kept freaking out in subsequent posts. Over one single vote against him. That coupled with his previously enthusiastic response to my last big post (it felt super saccharine to me) and his really strong desire to find out all our scum reads and very quickly lynch people (I guess he's just an impatient guy?) made me wonder if he was just a good player who drew scum, because good players I think can generally logic their way out of looking like scum.. unless they flip out. Didn't realize at the time he was reacting to outside issues and not inside issues.

And I should have opposed it more vocally as the wagon gained speed.

It might have made (at least me) some people rethink their new position on him, but once the wagon was there based on his first set of actions, he was basically "fuck it I'm scum let's just kill me bro" and to me that looked really bad. Like, I've not played a lot but it doesn't seem to me, which I mentioned to him at the time, that a frustrated town would have reacted that way or self voted. Maybe if it dragged on and on, or noone was listening to him.. but he literally in a very fast time a)freaked out over one post and began to point fingers everywhere b)said fuck it kill me idcare without trying to talk out the issues all that coherently. Like I said, at the time, not knowing the outside circumstances, it looked really bad. My base assumption is that town wouldn't feel very pressured by the things that were pressuring him.

[noraaa]

And yet no one seems to care.

I'm taking in your concerns. I'm more focused on others at this point and watching the you+pine shit figure itself out.

[noraaa]

why hasn't Nobody Special been lynched yet?

Because I'm obvtown, duh. Do try to keep up.

I swear to god if you ARE, you should have replaced out.

[inte]

noraa for towny 2012

there's a 99% chance that there are two scum teams. meaning that stuff is easy to fake.

I was referring to her line of thinking being basically the same as mine
That and plus she's the most transparent player here

[inte]

OK SO I'm down with lynching:

Nobody Special
Pine
Kairyuu

in that order
lets get to it

VOTE: Nobody Special

[Nobody Special]

What did I ever do to you? Seriously. Make a case.

[UberNinja]

why isn't hiraki on your list? it seems to me you thought he was scumbuddies with NS in this post

[UberNinja]

that was @ inte, obviously

[Nobody Special]

If I keep ninjaing you, I must be town. Right?

[inte]

why isn't hiraki on your list? it seems to me you thought he was scumbuddies with NS in this post

i'm willing to fogive hiraki if NS flips town

same thing with the pine/noraa shtick

[UberNinja]

If I keep ninjaing you, I must be town. Right?

What does that have to do with anything, good sir?

[UberNinja]

why isn't hiraki on your list? it seems to me you thought he was scumbuddies with NS in this post

i'm willing to fogive hiraki if NS flips town

same thing with the pine/noraa shtick

Um... this does not compute.

[inte]

why isn't hiraki on your list? it seems to me you thought he was scumbuddies with NS in this post

i'm willing to fogive hiraki if NS flips town

same thing with the pine/noraa shtick

Um... this does not compute.

i don't want to explain, but the association only works one way in this case. hiraki has been vocally defending NS, but NS has been the one acting scummy

basically we get more information from a NS flip than hiraki

[UberNinja]

You don't get it. It doesn't make sense because ... dun dun dun...

scum defend town all the time. For brownie points. So, you fail.

QED .'.

[noraaa]

If I keep ninjaing you, I must be town. Right?

If you have to keep telling us you're town, then....

ex:
"hey guys I'm funny I promise I'm funny look I said something funny I must be funny right?"

why isn't hiraki on your list? it seems to me you thought he was scumbuddies with NS in this post

i'm willing to fogive hiraki if NS flips town

same thing with the pine/noraa shtick

I can see the logic behind where you made the second association (don't think I ever addressed the first mention). I agree with you on the first one depending on the flip as well.

OK SO I'm down with lynching:

Nobody Special
Pine
Kairyuu

in that order
lets get to it

VOTE: Nobody Special

Can you flesh out your case on Kairyuu? You've only really mentioned this supposed amish tell (which I've heard mentioned over and over on the site but can't find in the wiki.) Also you don't seem to have responded to his reply about you mentioning that. I'd like to know if there is more to your particular case against him and if so/if not, what and why?

also good to see you posting more, gives me faith.

[inte]

but town doesn't defend scum

hence NS is the lynch, but

not necessarily

Hiraki needs to be lynched

[noraaa]

Hiraki is smart but also can be sheeped by his own ego. I can see him thinking he can't be fooled. It's actually what made us go at each other town vs town in my first game.

But that's just conjecture, I'm not settled on Hiraki either way just yet. Leaning scum atm but just barely.

[inte]

Can you flesh out your case on Kairyuu? You've only really mentioned this supposed amish tell (which I've heard mentioned over and over on the site but can't find in the wiki.) Also you don't seem to have responded to his reply about you mentioning that. I'd like to know if there is more to your particular case against him and if so/if not, what and why?

also good to see you posting more, gives me faith.

sowe i thought i linked it earlier:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2067031

BBmolla explains it better:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=150

i've seen it be legit 2/3 times, so i'm pretty faithful (even then the one time it didn't work, the guy only said he didn't like his predecessors playstyle, not even true criticism like saying h was being scummy)
and yes this is the only thing i've got on him, but i follow the logic

[crypto]

hello, everyone please vote either mogri or nobody special; we are lynching them today and tomorrow.

[Hiraki]

You don't get it. It doesn't make sense because ... dun dun dun...

scum defend town all the time. For brownie points. So, you fail.

I don't no how much longer I can read this.

Your excuses are so stupid.

Sometimes, as town, (take note this is a masta hiraki tool) you have to realize that you were wrong

get over it

and move on

UBER

HERE'S YOUR CHANCE

CLEAR ALL YOUR READS

AND TRY AGAIN

I HAVE NO FAITH IN YOU

JUST TO NOTE

[noraaa]

Can you flesh out your case on Kairyuu? You've only really mentioned this supposed amish tell (which I've heard mentioned over and over on the site but can't find in the wiki.) Also you don't seem to have responded to his reply about you mentioning that. I'd like to know if there is more to your particular case against him and if so/if not, what and why?

also good to see you posting more, gives me faith.

sowe i thought i linked it earlier:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2067031

BBmolla explains it better:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=150

i've seen it be legit 2/3 times, so i'm pretty faithful (even then the one time it didn't work, the guy only said he didn't like his predecessors playstyle, not even true criticism like saying h was being scummy)
and yes this is the only thing i've got on him, but i follow the logic

eh, I mean honestly I'm going to read the entire thread/my predecessor's posts no matter what alignment I am. And if they're taking a lot of flak for being dumb or weird as shit, I might feel like I should comment on it, depending on the situation. I don't really see that as a legitimate thing, just based on my own knowledge of how I'd replace in. (But I wouldn't likely, cause I like to start from the beginning, not a million pages in).

I can see what the tell is saying, I guess, but I'm not so sure that it's as telling as some might believe. Yourself included.

How does his posting toward TeCh yesterday affect your feeling about his alignment?