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[raspberrylicious]

Thomith, please explain why I shouldn't vote for you.

[Nachomamma8]

LOW MANNNNNNN

FoS: Nacho for deliberately attempting to antagonize me by mangling my name and voting me based mainly on lurking, which he is very guilty of himself and has a long history of.

I didn't intend to call you Low Key; got you mixed up with another player onsite. My problems with you are also less lurking and more intentionally getting by with as little as possible. You are posting, you just aren't posting substance. Also, why are you going with an FoS instead of a vote?

Avoiding RQS and RVS and immediately pushing for a lynch. I was only half-serious about the PL aspect but it was a serious vote on someone that appeared scummy to me at the time.

Why didn't you say he appeared scummy at the time?

[Nachomamma8]

Thomith, please explain why I shouldn't vote for you.

yeah, try again.

[LlamaFluff]

@Techno - What is your read on Bw?
@BK - What is your read on Thomith?

@mod

- How does night actions resolve with respect to psycologist and scum killing? If the Psych targeted scum who had never submitted a previous kill but was submitting a kill on that night what would they get as a result?

[TeChNoWC]

Lurkerish, nervous and makes poor decisions with poor reasoning. Maybe I am being hard on him and there is little content of his to go on, but he gives me a scummy vibe.

Will do a readthrough tonight, noticed some votes on Thomith on quick readthrough and need to work out what is going on there. Also need to Iso BK again.

[LowMan]

Everyone:

Sorry for my disappearance, I've been dealing with problems IRL the past few days. Specifically unexplained aches in my lower back that get worse if I'm sitting upright for long periods of time, which make it hard to be at my computer.

I'm going to go see a doctor about it tomorrow if it's still this bad in the morning.

@Mod: I'm going to go V/LA for a few days. I plan to return on Friday.

I will respond to questions people have asked me (Like Nacho's Post #151) and other things when I return.

[Venmar]

Everyone:

Sorry for my disappearance, I've been dealing with problems IRL the past few days. Specifically unexplained aches in my lower back that get worse if I'm sitting upright for long periods of time, which make it hard to be at my computer.

I'm going to go see a doctor about it tomorrow if it's still this bad in the morning.

@Mod: I'm going to go V/LA for a few days. I plan to return on Friday.

I will respond to questions people have asked me (Like Nacho's Post #151) and other things when I return.

I hope everything goes well, best of luck.

[Chimera]

However, if they have already killed another player,

including kills submitted on the night you diagnose them

, the result will be that they do not have the ability to kill.

@LlamaFluff I believe this answers your question.
@LowMan Get better...thanks for letting us know.

[Chimera]

Votecount 1.7

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-06-08 14:40:00)

Venmar (3) -- andrew94, Lowman, Thomith
LowMan (1) -- Nachomamma8
Thomith (5) -- Arugula, Venmar, LlamaFluff, Kassadin, raspberrylicious

(L-2)

Arugula (1) -- The1fifi
raspberrylicious (1) -- BK201
BK201 (1) -- TeCHNoWC

Not voting-- BwBurke

The1fifi has been prodded. andrew94 and LowMan are on V/LA

[Thomith]

Thomith, please explain why I shouldn't vote for you.

because you have shown no reason why you are voting me in the first place, with the information you have given (i.e - none) i can't tell you why you shouldn't vote for me because you haven't given a reason why you should.

@argula, i think it is obvious by that post that i have no other reason.

[Arugula]

Then why were you bluffing and telling me to look back when you had other reason?

[Thomith]

i dont remember saying i had other reasons, i said i explained my reason already

[Arugula]

And I asked you to explain it and you said I already did. Then I said explain it again and you said I don't have any other reasons. :/

[LlamaFluff]

If there was ever a game I needed my pictures to deal with the frustration...

Im really waiting for all three of the ones flaking/away to come back because I need their input here to draw some bigger conclusions.

Awesome news is we may be able to have a very early mini-alliance.

[andrew94]

@BK, its what I think your doing. Talking too much about it is bad
As for your second question, refer to tech’s post 80.
For your post 146, kass got night killed so… (that end was finished)

@Tech, what is Bk’s ‘style’
@ Argula Notice how Venmar says ‘yea, why are you guys..’ This is heavy buddying here

@Venmar your post 125, about thomith. Did he not say earlier that he was placing an fos until a votecount came? You even said ‘ok’. He then voted later on.

@kassadin, rasp you guys r trolls

@llama , why is that question not a PM to the mod?

My Vote is staying.

[Kassadin]

@andrew yes i am

[LlamaFluff]

@llama , why is that question not a PM to the mod?

So everyone knows it 100%

Played a setup like this that I think got crash lost and quite a bit of mod not being clear on things like that messed up stuff.

Given that we are out of RVS, how about you explain your vote at this point.

[Venmar]

@ Argula Notice how Venmar says ‘yea, why are you guys..’ This is heavy buddying here

- I agreed with him. Jumping to conclusions like this i think is a little bit of a stretch. If i was doing something else like asking him for pointers and advice and things like that, yeah i would be buddying. In this case i only agreed with the main point of his post. This i don't think is "heavy" buddying.

@Venmar your post 125, about thomith. Did he not say earlier that he was placing an fos until a votecount came? You even said ‘ok’. He then voted later on.

- What is your point? He gave me a 100% heads up so clearly i can assume he has practically made a vote on me. Him placing a FoS on me until the vote count makes me think he was unsure of himself to actually commit to a vote on me until he saw if he had the support needed. ( Considering he put me down as a town read until he jumped on a very thin argument and assumption that i know Kassadin's alignment, which i don't ). FoS'ing and saying will vote later makes me think he is playing it safe. Not sure though what you meant here though, let me know if i understood what you wanted from me here.

My Vote is staying.

- Useless part of your post. Why even post it when it has no meaning.

Question for Andrew

- Why are you voting for me? You still haven't explained yourself in that field. The only think i can see is your weird assumption that i'm scum because of how i presented the RQS. This alone i think is not enough to warrant a good vote. Explain more, please?

[BK201]

Will find some time tomorrow or Thursday. School.

[TeChNoWC]

@Techno - What is your read on Bw?
@BK - What is your read on Thomith?

@mod

- How does night actions resolve with respect to psycologist and scum killing? If the Psych targeted scum who had never submitted a previous kill but was submitting a kill on that night what would they get as a result?

I still think you should have PM'd the mod on this one. I didn't want to say anything at the time, but this seems either terribly dangerous or terribly scummy to be saying, and I don't need to and won't spell out why.

If there was ever a game I needed my pictures to deal with the frustration...

Im really waiting for all three of the ones flaking/away to come back because I need their input here to draw some bigger conclusions.

Awesome news is we may be able to have a very early mini-alliance.

Why do you want an alliance and with whom?

Alliances simply allow scum to hide better, and again, are either a badly thought out idea from town, or a scummy idea from scum wanting to hide from scrutiny.

[LlamaFluff]

Alliances simply allow scum to hide better, and again, are either a badly thought out idea from town, or a scummy idea from scum wanting to hide from scrutiny.

Alliances of town who trust eachother can decimate scum. Thomith has seen me drum up a very successfull one before.

Will explain it more once I get something from fifi and LM since they are kinda important in all of this.

[TeChNoWC]

Alliances simply allow scum to hide better, and again, are either a badly thought out idea from town, or a scummy idea from scum wanting to hide from scrutiny.

Alliances of town who trust eachother can decimate scum. Thomith has seen me drum up a very successfull one before.

Will explain it more once I get something from fifi and LM since they are kinda important in all of this.

If you are going to be starting up any form of supposed 'town alliance', I would like a list of your scumreads now, and why. Also your townreads, and why.

[LlamaFluff]

And as I have said, im waiting to see what happens with fifi and LM first. Then im going to start making some more power moves.

[TeChNoWC]

And as I have said, im waiting to see what happens with fifi and LM first. Then im going to start making some more power moves.

Well you'll be waiting awhile, since LM is VL/A.

And I hope you aren't going to say that LM is one of your townreads. He's out for a PL and quicklynch, loves his wagons and seems as scummy as BK and Burke.

[LlamaFluff]

And as I have said, im waiting to see what happens with fifi and LM first. Then im going to start making some more power moves.

Well you'll be waiting awhile, since LM is VL/A.

And I hope you aren't going to say that LM is one of your townreads. He's out for a PL and quicklynch, loves his wagons and seems as scummy as BK and Burke.

Well LM is just avoiding this game from what I can tell so I think he can be back if he wants right about now. As I said, im going to withold stuff a bit until they get resolved then its time to get stuff rolling along.