New York 152 Niiightless Game Over!

[Psyche]

So why aren't you voting Pine instead of Uber? Or Hiraki? Or Inte?

I don't see any reason to.

[Ythan]

Vote Count

3 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte) L-4
1 inte (CF Riot)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
1 noraaa (UberNinja)
0 petapan
0 BK201
0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 Pine

6 Not Voting (petapan, BK201, Kairyuu, crypto, Matias, noraaa)

BK201 has been prodded.

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

[Pine]

Because Psyche is using his vote as a weapon, to either scare people off his wagon or start one that will distract from it. He's not actually been consistently voting serious scumreads, which indicates he doesn't really have any.

[UberNinja]

So why aren't you voting Pine instead of Uber? Or Hiraki? Or Inte?

I don't see any reason to.

Your answers are positively MIND-BOTTLING

[noraaa]

You and I certainly have different methods of interpretation.

Why the defense of noraaa?

cause it aint a scumtell, at least for me

it certaintly doesn't look like shes flailing, just attempting to articulate her thoughts

Pretty much. I'd rather post what I have and then add more if it comes to mind than hold onto a post "just in case."

Also did my posting seem scared to you, UN? And where's that reply to my post to you. Your stated reasons I'm supposedly scum are bullshit and you fall under your own umbrella. So if I'm scum for that you're scum for the exact same thing.

Are you scum, UN?

[noraaa]

My assessment of the weirdness of [Psyche] voting seemingly just because still stands, that was how I felt at the time.

Nora, do you not get this same impression from Inte, BK, and/or Pine?

I don't think they're voting the way NS and Psyche were/are. Most of his votes seemed to me like he felt like he had to vote and not because he cared who he was voting. That to me stands out as important. Though I do see some of their voting (esp when they didn't bother to provide why) as potentially opportunistic. Like.. almost every vote NS had. (still annoyed about that)

The three you listed I go very back and forth about but I am glad that the outer two have been posting more because it's helpful. BK barely seems to come up in my memory at all past day one..

I'll agree with you that your vote is groundless and thus subject to as much criticism as a favorite ice cream flavor.

Well since I don't feel that way about my vote on you (which I lifted already if you're following) I guess we don't agree about it do we, sassy mcsnarkypants. We're agreeing to DISagree not that I'm wrong. If you're town then maybe I'm wrong and maybe I'm right. And if you're scum I'm right and you want me to think I'm being dumb. Because you don't agree with me doesn't make my reasoning poor. If you can give me a better reason than "it's poor it's poor it's poor" like maybe discuss in more detail how your specific votes were not just "hey Psyche you should vote" "ok sure I pick..

whoever has the most votes right now

". When your actual posts during your votes were often (read:not always, but often) pretty "eh" about the votes you were making. I'm gonna iso you now to see how I feel with a fresh read.

Sigh. I don't care enough about D1 lynches to be too stubborn with my choices. Tomorrow just needs to give me the reads I'm stRved of!

unvote: vote redff

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Oh, I hate being wrong. Oh, well. At least I was kn the wagon. I'll be rereadingthe thread tonight if I have time.

Wrong about what? You voted the guy who died who turned out to be scum. This makes no sense. And you said already you didn't care about day one, so there's that.

Well. I dunno. I'm usually already on the wagon at this point.

vote TeCh

yeah that's a great reason to vote someone. Cause you're usually already doing it. You later say it's because he claimed scum but why wasn't that anywhere in the post for voting him? You mention that only after people pick at what you said.

Annoying and rude as Psyche is being, he is actually a distant second to Nobody Special.

Mostly because I've been trying to get NS lynched for days and there seems to be a vast right wing conspiracy to keep him alive for some goddamn reason.

Right. Right. Annoying and rude.

I remember the hulk guy noting this, too.

And seriously, I have nothing strong to go off of, so why not that?

vote NS

It's not your vote here that gets me, but that you're using the same kind of "reasoning" that you think I'm using and basically calling me dumb for. Because no matter how many times I tell you that you're mis-labeling why I find it strange, you pretend I'm saying something else.

Honestly after this iso I realize two things. I'm really sick of you saying you'll try and never really trying, so I hope you stay in like you said you would. Cause um, half your iso is excuses and it's really sad. And secondly, while I still feel the same way about your voting "style" it's not as prominently a reason in itself to vote you as my memory had it being.



I have a test to study for tonight so no heavy thinking about this game. Tomorrow I'd like to do a few isos and figure out who I want to vote for. We don't need to keep wasting town lives. While I totally get why they got killed, and I was part of some of that, it puts us in danger if we keep it up.

[noraaa]

Reading that over, my first paragraph could be confusing. The they I'm referring to are the three listed.

[inte]

So why aren't you voting Pine instead of Uber? Or Hiraki? Or Inte?

I don't see any reason to.

Your answers are positively MIND-BOTTLING

yeah, real posts are a diamond dozen

[Psyche]

Because Psyche is using his vote as a weapon, to either scare people off his wagon or start one that will distract from it. He's not actually been consistently voting serious scumreads, which indicates he doesn't really have any.

Didn't I explicitly say that I don't have any serious scumreads?

[Psyche]

I'll deal with noraaa's post later.

[Matias]

Okay I'm back and I'm going to catch up now.

[UberNinja]

HOWever. You can replace the word feeling with whatever appropriate similar word would make it better for you. What I'm trying to say basically is that throughout this game, you have voted for very poor reasons (if stated). It seemed that if someone said Hey Psyche, vote this guy or Hey Psyche, vote someone randomly right this second, you would do it. And that doesn't sit well with me. You don't seem to make most of your votes for reasons that MATTER to YOU and I don't think a lazy townsman would make that kind of judgement call.

This is the coaching part, and it comes across as condescending and smug, like scum who knows they're nowhere near being suspected and can thus get away with this kind of behavior.

You and I certainly have different methods of interpretation.

Why the defense of noraaa?

cause it aint a scumtell, at least for me

it certaintly doesn't look like shes flailing, just attempting to articulate her thoughts

Pretty much. I'd rather post what I have and then add more if it comes to mind than hold onto a post "just in case."

Also did my posting seem scared to you, UN? And where's that reply to my post to you. Your stated reasons I'm supposedly scum are bullshit and you fall under your own umbrella. So if I'm scum for that you're scum for the exact same thing.

Are you scum, UN?

Yes, you sounded nervous, why else would you rapid-fire post after post after post like that, right after getting voted for?

Just like Psyche did earlier in the game when I voted for him. And that was scummy as hell too.

Because Psyche is using his vote as a weapon, to either scare people off his wagon or start one that will distract from it. He's not actually been consistently voting serious scumreads, which indicates he doesn't really have any.

Didn't I explicitly say that I don't have any serious scumreads?

I'm going to try not to be overly hostile here...

Haven't we been at the very least vaguely concerned that you

don't

have any scum reads?

And wouldn't that in the least convince you that you should be looking for some instead of merely defending yourself at every turn?

[noraaa]

Well I've already addressed those points of yours. And you're still ignoring my direct response and questioning to you regarding your comments about my voting/my comments about my voting/your voting. But sure let's do this.

I wouldn't know how to act smug if I tried, so. You're totally reading my personality wrong. *shrug* Like I said, I'm transparent and I was explaining myself. And again, I've explained why I post like I do and if you notice it's usually pretty consistent that I follow a post with a few more posts after a few minutes go by. Cause I've thought of another thing to say. I'm not going to just not reply because you might think I'm replying too much. That's stupid and pointless. And I don't really see how any of what I said in that first blurb comes across as any of the things you're saying it does.

And the only reason I replied "right after being voted" was because we were both on and so I happened to be around to reply then. Would it feel less scummy to you if there was a page of other stuff before I came in and noticed you posted? Or if someone else had been active and my posts (which were several minutes apart as I was thinking things over) had been thusly spaced out more? Cause if those sorts of variables are all you got, you don't have much.

[UberNinja]

What questions have you asked me that I haven't answered?

True, all I have is gut, but that's something, and it's better than nothing.

[UberNinja]

Also, who are you going to vote?

You seem so worried about defending yourself that you've forgotten how to scumhunt.

[noraaa]

you really don't read my posts at all do you.

[noraaa]

Also replying to someone with an explanation isn't really "worried about defending myself"


You quoted the things I wanted replied to, figure it out yourself.

I really don't have the patience to spoonfeed you tonight.

[BK201]

Well Red and Pine seem kind of scummy, especially Pine's posts. I don't see how if Red is scum, how that makes Pine probably scum though.

approx. 400 posts later, with no mention of a town read on redff in between:

Idk how we went from BB/Mogri back to Red. He's one of my strongest town reads and that's a stupid lynch.

explain your town read on redff.

I was a little suspicious of him at first, but he didn't come across as cautious at all.

@prod, sorry guys, been catching up on school

[UberNinja]

noraaa, please tell me, who is scum? and why?

[noraaa]

since UN is incompetent, here you go. If you can't figure it out from here then you're just stupid or faking.


THINGS UN KEEPS IGNORING WHILE ASKING ME TO REPLY TO THINGS AS THOUGH I HAVEN'T ALREADY

actually, now that I look back, you've been on every lynch EXCEPT the time we lynched scum, when you were pushing a counter-wagon. you've hopped back and forth a lot, but so far every wagon you've been on was town, and you conspicuously avoided the redFF lynch and pushed Mogri instead.

Also, not true.

I was against redff, but not sold. When told to put up or shut up against him and Mogri, I chose Mogri in iso.

techno was self explanatory and YOU VOTED HIM TOO.

Mogri's death was.. oh yeah I wasn't on that wagon was I.

Ns.. well we both pushed him from day one so.

Where does that leave you?

Your stated reasons I'm supposedly scum are bullshit and you fall under your own umbrella. So if I'm scum for that you're scum for the exact same thing.

Are you scum, UN?

I have a test to study for tonight so no heavy thinking about this game. Tomorrow I'd like to do a few isos and figure out who I want to vote for. We don't need to keep wasting town lives. While I totally get why they got killed, and I was part of some of that, it puts us in danger if we keep it up.

[UberNinja]

I don't know where it leaves me. Where's it supposed to leave me?

No.

What the hell is "It puts us in danger if we keep it up" supposed to mean?

[noraaa]

figure it out yourself

[UberNinja]

i want to post a string of obscenities, but i'll post this instead:

[noraaa]

pretty cool picture.

you're not stupid. it's not a hard concept. I'm sick of you not using your noodle.



also I'm frustrated as fuck over a lot of things going on irl and I want to go off on you too and I'm trying not to because you really don't deserve that.

[UberNinja]

Well thanks.

Now go get hit by a bus (a scum partner bussing you, duh).