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[LlamaFluff]

I'm getting this weird vibe from Venmar.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Venmar

Those who give self meta are usually a little more likely to be town. Some other stuff suggests it too though.

Explain your vibe, also your current read on Thomith.

Vote BwB

Slightly better pick than Thomith, although he still really bugs me and I have no problems go there if that is what the alliance wants.

[Arugula]

BwB is annoying me and isn't contributing anyway. His only contribution was saying that Venmar is a bad player.

Even though thomith is scummier, IMO, BwB would be the smarter lynch.

UNVOTE: Thomith
VOTE: BwBurke

[Chimera]

Votecount 1.8

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-06-08 14:40:00)

Venmar (4) -- andrew94, Lowman, Thomith, raspberrylicious
Thomith (2) -- Venmar, Kassadin
Arugula (1) -- The1fifi
raspberrylicious (2) -- BK201, nachomamma8
BK201 (2) -- TeCHNoWC, BwBurke
BwBurke (2) -- LlamaFluff, Arugula

Not voting-- No one

LowMan are BwBurke are on V/LA. The1fifi is being replaced...

[Chimera]

DCLXVI replaces The1fifi

[TeChNoWC]

I'm up for that, though I would like to see some more posts from him when he comes back from V/LA before a hammer. A bit of pressure is what he needs at the moment though.

Unvote
Vote: BwBurke

[Venmar]

Unvote

Vote: BwBurke

Here is my explanation.

VOTE: Kassadin for being Kassadin.

FoS: Arugula

for making fun of my being a no-avi. That seems a bit pointless to post if you're not scum trying to make your posts seem longer.

Most stupid FoS i have ever seen. ( If BW is going to say i am garbage at this game, that was not uncalled for. )

@mod:

Vote count?

Let's have it count this vote:
VOTE: Venmar

Does not explain anything, seems to jump on a wagon.

@Venmar: You're new here. As scum, you're a bad scum. As town, you're a bad town. Either way, lynching you is better than lynching a likely town that actually knows how to play. We have no clue who the scum are right now. With that being said, I will unvote because there's no real evidence that you're scum.

UNVOTE:

Expresses his feelings about me. He says i am a bad player and thinks i should be lynched. Yet in the same post he also unvotes me. If he expresses these feelings but does not stick with a lynch on someone he thinks is not useful to the town, why do so in the first place? In this post he also says i don't look scummy, making his previous vote on me unexplained and quite frankly, BS. Looks to me like he was just jumping on a possible wagon to lynch somebody. In this case, me.

Oh hai there. Sorry for the inactivity.

This is a useless post. Proceeds to make a useless post without providing us any explanation for his previous post ( above quote ), makes no analization, no reads, no nothing. Probably just stalling, and posting to avoid further prods and replacements.

Well... If you want me to post something, then I should actually post the following:

V/LA until Tuesday 5/29

Practically the same as the above quote. He further stalls for time and makes another VLA for a rather long time and does not say why he is VLA.

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I still think Thomith is probably a better lynch than Burke, but Burkes posts seem very scummy, he is withholding information, he is ( I think ) stalling, and he is being largely unhelpful. Furthermore the way he is playing is completely useless for us town later on in the game. He is not someone we would want for LyLo or MyLo.
( I also just practically quoted more than half of all of Burkes posts. Tells you how much he is contributing. )

[DCLXVI]

Hi everyone, I'm replacing The1fifi.

You can just call me DCL if you have trouble finding the "x" key.

Anyway, I will have a catchup post up tomorrow, may have some stuff up tonight.

also

unvote

haven't read much of anything yet, will place a vote on someone else after my catchup post.

[Arugula]

Welcome to the game!

[DCLXVI]

@venmar, have you played mafia games on other sites? if you wouldn't mind could you give me a link for meta?

[BK201]

@Techno - What is your read on Bw?
@BK - What is your read on Thomith?

After re-reading the game, he has been kind of inconsistent, mostly with his view on Kass, and his discussion with Venmar. What worries me is both trolls(rasb, kass) voted him back to back. Oh and I could see a Thomith+Andrew team if ones ends up being scum.

I think we should have the Hider claim, and have the Tracker/Vig choose Tracker. Hider claim + Tracker follow is awesome. (props to LF for thinking of this)

[BK201]

Bwburke lynch is a good one. Keeping vote on Rasberry to avoid short day phase and allow Hider Claim + Tracker Follow to happen.

[Kassadin]

VOTE: Bw

[BK201]

Bw is at L-2.

I want opinions on the Hider claiming + Tracker following him before we risk the day ending.
One person should unvote Bw temporarily b/c troll-rasberry will hammer him if you put him(rasberry did this in 397 to me day 1, and we ended up losing(town)) at L-1.

[BK201]

In case it's not obvious, if the tracker dies, the tracker would then reveal who (all) the hider visited.

[BK201]

In case it's not obvious, if the

tracker

hiderdies, the tracker would then reveal who (all) the hider visited.

[TeChNoWC]

@BK I'm not sure how this would work. If the Hider claims, and the tracker follows him, then the tracker would have to claim to be able to tell us who he hid behind, thus:
a) scum will know who the tracker and hider are or
b) scum have claimed tracker and hider and are now leading town down a deadly path of destruction.

And either way, we won't know whether to trust them. I just think it will give scum the powerbase.

Please explain further.

[TeChNoWC]

Anyway I am willing to

Unvote

This wagon has taken off very quickly, and its too early in the day for a quicklynch. I want to hear Burke's defence first, plus his scumreads before he gets obliterated out of the game at something like ten posts.

[Venmar]

@venmar, have you played mafia games on other sites? if you wouldn't mind could you give me a link for meta?

If you read the thread you would know me and Techno had this conversation. But just for you:
http://forums.station.sony.com/strategy ... c_id=78802

I went by the name of BoneSentry, BK is in this game as well.
( I was a VT )

[Nachomamma8]

I like Venmar and would support adding him to the alliance.

Even though thomith is scummier, IMO, BwB would be the smarter lynch.

:/

I still think Thomith is probably a better lynch than Burke, but

:/

Make a case for who you think is scummiest. Annoying and not really contributing are not necessarily scum traits. Personally, I would rather lynch rasp or thomith before bw.

I think we should have the Hider claim, and have the Tracker/Vig choose Tracker. Hider claim + Tracker follow is awesome. (props to LF for thinking of this)

Yeah, I think the hider should claim now.

@BK I'm not sure how this would work. If the Hider claims, and the tracker follows him, then the tracker would have to claim to be able to tell us who he hid behind, thus:
a) scum will know who the tracker and hider are or
b) scum have claimed tracker and hider and are now leading town down a deadly path of destruction.

Tracker doesn't claim until the hider dies. If tracker dies, hider claims his innocents. That way, scum won't be able to kill the innocents as the hider claims them. If scum decide to claim hider/tracker, then they will be counterclaimed, and we get free scum.

[LlamaFluff]

Personally, I would rather lynch rasp or thomith before bw.

Yeah im still debating it after this fast of a wagon, it really is basically all town reads and alliance members though so im a bit torn since this type of showing is exactly what we need to make the alliance scary.

Hider claim is best I think. Super low chance something goes wrong. Going to think a little more on it and weigh it against hypo-claim though. Hypo has less catastrophic failure odds but higher small failure odds.

[BK201]

I'm the Hider.

For the love of god pick Tracker. Vigilante has a high chance of killing me, whether you kill someone I hid behind or I hide behind you.
Tracker is awesome anyways.

[Thomith]

rasp don't Think because you just changed your vote you don't need to explain your vote on me/ please explain it.
any reason for Voting bk bw?
kass why are you playing differently than normal? not explaining anything? something to hide?
same for you rasp.
ugh, maybe you should have waited until more people added their opininons on claiming BK, as nobody said they were sure about the hider claiming.

[LlamaFluff]

Awesome.

Tracker is following BK tonight who is now in the alliance. Up to a third of the game already town, this should be over quick.

[raspberrylicious]

rasp don't Think because you just changed your vote you don't need to explain your vote on me/ please explain it.
why are you playing differently than normal? not explaining anything? something to hide?

- RVS
- I'm playing exactly the same way I always do. You've played with me before, so you should notice that.

[Thomith]

you still usually explain things, and putting me at L-2 is RVS?