Open 409 - Moneybags' Less Pressure - Game Over - Town Wins!

[Chrimi]

Not that I would like to declare, nothxkaibye

[andrew94]

i reread it and understood it barely.
HOwever please make more clear in the future

[Voidedmafia]

I'm not quite sure what wasn't clear.

Om claimed that Ser said my pressure was without substance in that post. I looked, and I didn't see anything that indicated he thought that. He did make some rather pitiful excsues for Papi's behavior, which I don't like, but again, no explicit or implicit indications that he thinks my pressure is baseless.

That clearer?

Chrimi: You're not getting a lot of favors, yknow. At least from me, anyways.

[Om of the Nom]

Gunny said it, not me.

[Voidedmafia]

SEE?! STOP CONFUSING ME ALREADY!

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Om is slightly townish for early scumhunting/getting the ball rolling with his Rach vote.

Why does this make me town?

Voided is townish for the continual pushing on an IC.

Why does this make him town?

Rach is slightly scummy for the vague/non-confrontational statment up there about ICs.

Why does this make her scum?

Shotgun is slightly scummy for the over-eagerness in the RVS/RQS and his jump behind Voided on Papi.

Why do these make him scum?

This is what I don't like about the post. There is reason, but no explanation.
Also yeah, answers to the bolded please.

(1) This makes you townish because scum would really have no motivation to start the ball rolling, or get out much of the RVS, especially in a setup like this one. This could be WIFOM (that’s why it’s a slight town read), and you could be a scum who just jumped on something quickly, but you’re actual vote and reasoning reads more like what a town would do, since they are on the lookout for awkward and/or bad posting.
(2) It makes Voided townish because a scum would not have pushed that hard. In a setup like this, the scum can easily fit in. A scum Voided would’ve thrown some jabs at the IC, but then either (a) layed back or (b) started attacking someone else, to try and swing a mislynch. Yea, I said the attack by Voided on Papi, from

my

POV, has no substance. But, from

his

POV, it looks like he does think that it is worth pushing, and it looks like it is genuinely being pushed.
(3) It makes her scummy because she threw a generic and general post, and mostly pretty much backed up and agreed with another player, without serving much purpose than to say “look, I’m here, I’m posting, I’m contributing”.
(4) Shotgun looks like he was trying too hard in the RVS stage to actually fit in (with his vote on Rach for not answering the RQS right away), and his opportunistic jump behind voided at a chance of looking townish (for the same reasons Voided looks town). However, as I said a scum would do, shotgun basically backed up Voided for a few posts, and then retired back into fitting in the crowd.

[Om of the Nom]

What makes you so sure scum Voided wouldn't have pushed as hard?

[drmyshotgun]

(4) Shotgun looks like he was trying too hard in the RVS stage to actually fit in (with his vote on Rach for not answering the RQS right away), and his opportunistic jump behind voided at a chance of looking townish (for the same reasons Voided looks town). However, as I said a scum would do, shotgun basically backed up Voided for a few posts, and then retired back into fitting in the crowd.

Tell us something new about me. This is just repetition, regorgitation, etc.
Why is that scum? What's the motivation in it?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

What makes you so sure scum Voided wouldn't have pushed as hard?

I am not 100% sure. But it is the surest read I have so far. In the first day, the lynch can basically be 100% random. A scum would not go out of their way to focus on attacking an IC and pushing as hard as Voided does for fear of being put on the spotlight, and with so much little info to go on, they can basically get lynched because the spotlight is on them.

(4) Shotgun looks like he was trying too hard in the RVS stage to actually fit in (with his vote on Rach for not answering the RQS right away), and his opportunistic jump behind voided at a chance of looking townish (for the same reasons Voided looks town). However, as I said a scum would do, shotgun basically backed up Voided for a few posts, and then retired back into fitting in the crowd.

Tell us something new about me. This is just repetition, regorgitation, etc.
Why is that scum? What's the motivation in it?

Are you not reading? I explained both those answers. Also, how about you tell us... well,

anything

. I can't comment on anything else of yours because you pretty much have nothing else. What do you want me to do, dig up the earth and try to mischaracterize your posts in hopes of painting you scum? I read what's infront of me, and I analyze it. Sorry, maybe some of it is repetition. My thoughts can't be 100% unique.

VOTE: drmyshotgun for pushing a horrible case.

Also, you're voting me for these three reasons:

(1) "You say Voide's actions don't seem to be of any substance and is random and yet you say he is "Townish" for that?"

(2) "What the hell can I achieve out of jumping behind Voided? Why is that scummy move?"

(3) "You also just parroted my comment on Rach."

I explained #1, explained #2, and explaned #3(that I can't be 100% unique). Do you think the answers were not good enough? Do you think I'm still scummy because of those reasons? Please expand on your reads.

[Papi Bear]

I realize how boring a confirmed town is.. There's no thrill to it... :/

I promise I'll post useful posts tomorrow.. And yes, it was a reaction testing.

[RachMarie]

Thank you Papi.

@ SAD
I tend to be a bit more diplomatic in my postings but I also feel it is important for the ICs to contribute. I am a big picture person and I find having everyone on board helps me to winnow out who is town and who is scum. I hope that helps to clarify my position.

[Voidedmafia]

Post 105 Only thing I can agree with (that isn't about myself) is the part about RachMarie.

Post 107 That's "regurgitation".

Post 108 You guys would be idiots just to lynch someone because they pressure an IC, though.

In regards to the part about Gunny, I don't see the "trying to jump in and get towncred" part you're seeing.

Two more things: D1 lynches are not basically 100% random, and just because you can't be 100% unique doesn't mean you have to be 85%+ sheep.

Vote: Ser Arthur Dayne

Post 109 ...right. And your findings were...?

[mcqueen]

VoteCount 1.3:

Ser Arthur Dayne (4) - andrew94, drmyshotgun, Om of the Nom, Voidedmafia

L-1

drmyshotgun (3) - Chrimi, RachMarie, Ser Arthur Dayne

L-2

Om of the Nom (1) - Papi Bear
Papi Bear (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Voidedmafia (0) -
Chrimi (0) -
RachMarie (0) -

No Lynch (0) -

Not Voting (0) -

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, and 4 to no lynch.

Deadline is on June 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time (EDT).

V/LA:

No one is V/LA.

[drmyshotgun]

Happy with hammer right now.

[Chrimi]

'Aight, intent to hammer.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Okay, fine, lynch me. But I will give my last thoughts. On my wagon, right now, there has to be one scum between shotgun, Om, and Voided. I think that shotgun, or maybe it can be om.

Also, right now, I am thinking the scums are shogun, om, and rach/chrimi. Not sure about the last one, since I think Rach can be genuine. But I think that there is at least one scum who would not jump on me right away. So I’m thinking it’s Rach.

Perhaps only one scum actually jumped on my wagon, in that case I am pretty sure it’s shotgun. Which would make him partnered with chrimi and Rach.

Anyways, I really don’t think you can go wrong by lynching shotgun.

[Voidedmafia]

Don't really see what's so scummy in Gunny, really.

Also, Papi, you STILL haven't answered my original question. I'll even repeat it all nice-like: What, exactly, did you not like from my spat with Gunny (or Om, whichever) early on?

[drmyshotgun]

Okay, fine, lynch me. But I will give my last thoughts. On my wagon, right now, there has to be one scum between shotgun, Om, and Voided. I think that shotgun, or maybe it can be om.

Wooow, that's like, holy moly, such insight! Such skill! Such...balooney. Aww...

Also, right now, I am thinking the scums are shogun, om, and rach/chrimi.

Yet another magnificent point! Totally blew my mind.

But I think that there is at least one scum who would not jump on me right away. So I’m thinking it’s Rach.

Uh-huh.

Perhaps only one scum actually jumped on my wagon, in that case I am pretty sure it’s shotgun. Which would make him partnered with chrimi and Rach.

Make up your mind already. Who is it?? I think you are trying to do damage on everybody (but especially me) and treat them quite equally so that after your flip, your partners' covers won't be blown as easily as it was with your's.
Doing this for your partners are acceptable, but as a Town, why would you do this if you can specifically pinpoint your top suspects so that Town has solid direction rather than: "Everybody is suspect!!"

Anyways, I really don’t think you can go wrong by lynching shotgun.

Oh boy oh boy.

'Aight, intent to hammer.

Did I miss something you said earlier Chrimi? Because I can't seem to find you saying anything of substance or evidence against Ser Arthur Dayne, but you want to hammer him? Is this an attempt to bus and the last minute or something more exciting like shutting up your canary?

[Voidedmafia]

The former, most likely. Only thing worth noting from his is that still-unexplained vote on you, Gunny. But he can die tomorrow, yah?

[drmyshotgun]

Sure.

[Chrimi]

I thought we were friends.

And since when did agreeing with cases make me scum? >.>

[drmyshotgun]

Oh so you agree? Okay!

p.s We are friends. But ho ho ho, if you are scum, don't expect mercy from me!!

[Chrimi]

xD

Wasn't expecting any.

But I'm not scum, so mercyyyyy D:

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Ser Arthur Dayne

One down, two to go! ^.^

[Voidedmafia]

...Was that a scumclaim?