Open 393: White Flag - Day 5

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Could you go through your iso for me and tell me who makes my most sense as partner to you and vijay? (Not a test this time, I swear.)

[Prolapsed Brain]

Vote: Blonde Doctor

That's L-1, right? Somebody hammer.

[Blonde Doctor]

Found an opening this weekend to post, since I realized I do not remember when the deadline is.

After that last post I realized we are very dangerously near letting Prolapsed Brain get away with 18 posts since the start of this game full of empty votes and prod dodges. I cannot believe no one (including myself, I concede to blame as well) has noticed this. For some reason I saw him post D2 and thought he was one of the people that replaced in, but after putting me at L-1 for no reason, and asking for a hammer, I had to ISO him.

Please do the same and you will realize he has been coasting this entire time, even BLATANTLY posting prod dodges and switching his vote every other post.

You had questions posed toward you and have not ever answered any of them, even avoiding doing so outright.

vote: Prolapsed Brain

I cannot believe I went this long tunneling on Prana and Heilo without noticing him.

To answer Huntress's concerns:
1. I felt that lynching PranaDevil first would confirm me because he had started suggesting that Heilo and I were scum partners together, trying to switch the focus off of him and Heilo and onto me. I felt that if he was lynched and flipped scum it would confirm that I am not in fact scumbuddies with Heilo, but Prana.

2. My comment to you that made you think I "knew" you were town was out of desperation because I felt you were town but what you were saying made me second guess my read on them. I could not believe that anyone could simply overlook everything I was saying about Prana and Heilo without having a hidden agenda (i.e. scum).

Prana is near confirmed town to me also because he did not try to push an easy mislynch on me today like I thought he would have if he had any chance to be scum without Heilo. I believe anyone who suggested we were bussing each other is clearly not reading everything else I had to say or scum with a hidden agenda and that is all I have to say about that.

[Blonde Doctor]

For goodness sake, this game is insufferable.

[PranaDevil]

Anyone who is town, unvote BD now! We are not having a quick mis-lynch for scum to win.

Will be re-reading tomorrow.

Prolapsed is likely town, as there's no town reason to put BD at L-1 without a solid case, of which there is none.

[PranaDevil]

Grr, Prolapsed is likely scum even, sodding brain being asleep after a whole weekend of next to no real sleep.

[Prolapsed Brain]

unvote

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Okay. So the scum team is vijay, Prolapsed Brain and Equinox.

What's your opinion on vijay, Equinox?

[Huntress]

@ CES: Why is brizingre1 town?

Unvote
Vote: Snake

BD is more likely town now. Still got an FoS on Kcd/CES.

After that last post I realized we are very dangerously near letting Prolapsed Brain get away with 18 posts since the start of this game full of empty votes and prod dodges. I cannot believe no one (including myself, I concede to blame as well) has noticed this. For some reason I saw him post D2 and thought he was one of the people that replaced in, but after putting me at L-1 for no reason, and asking for a hammer, I had to ISO him.

Please do the same and you will realize he has been coasting this entire time, even BLATANTLY posting prod dodges and switching his vote every other post.

Do you mean to say you've only just noticed this! I think most of us have been aware of it most of the game. Unfortunately it doesn't mean he's scum though.

[vijay2vasandani]

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

@ CES: can you explain that read on me? Thanks.

[Blonde Doctor]

To be honest, I have not been paying much attention to anything other than Prana and Heilo on Day 2. Day 1 was mostly questioning Equinox and Hoopla to my recollection, and was not very active beyond that.

I would believe vijay is scum with PB, but do not feel as strongly about Equinox. After D1 I felt much more of a town read on her.

Why do you all of a sudden think I am "most likely town"? I do not understand your change of heart.

[Blonde Doctor]

Er, that last post was mostly directed at Huntress.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

@ CES: Why is brizingre1 town?

Um. I forgot and can't find it again, but I definitely had a reason.

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

@ CES: can you explain that read on me? Thanks.

You fell for Heilo's scum claim gambit.

[vijay2vasandani]

Um, no. That was a "what the fuck are you doing". I didn't vote for him because of it yeah?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Voting for him would've been fine? Or showing happiness in any way? "What are you doing?" seems like a very uninteresting question when someone claims scum.

[vijay2vasandani]

What the fuck is an expression of annoyance. Why do I even have to tell you this? I thought he was scum, but that scum claim (reminiscent of MusicNinja in This Little Town) made me realise he was derp town. Why do you think I didn't vote for him?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He was already lynched, like he pointed out.

Link to MusicNinja's claim?

[PranaDevil]

CES, Vijay didn't respond with "What the fuck" to Heilo's self-vote, the scum claim came before, which "I" voted him for, had he not done that I'd have left him and continued my push on BD. But if derp-player (regardless of alignment or who they are) is dumb enough to go "yep, I'm scum, well caught" then they should not only be lynched, but also chastised for it in the post-game because they fucked their side over.

Anyway, not liking CES trying to spin something onto Vijay that's false, if CES had read up enough to get that read on Vijay, he would also know that the response wasn't in regards to the scum claim, and solely in regards to the self-vote stuff.

What CES SHOULD be pushing Vijay for is, if he thought Heilo was town after the derp-claim, why the fuck he didn't follow the post with "don't vote Heilo! I have evidence" before actually producing said evidence in a follow-up post, that would have been town, not saying a thing at all is disconcerting, and it makes me wonder if this isn't a little scum/scum debate going on for distance purposes. Y'know, what with the entire argument being over something totally non-existant and falsely stated, despite a very good reason to argue for Vijay's lynch being present.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Looking back there was a post prior to the self-vote in which you could say he claimed scum, which I missed initially (it´s not nearly as explicit as the second one).

It´s fine because the following quote shows Vijay´s story is bullshit anyway:

How could Helio flip town? Will reread in a bit.

Unvote, vote: vijay

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Plan:
1) lynch Vijay
2) lynch Prolapsed Brain
3) don´t trust anything Equinox says

[vijay2vasandani]

He was already lynched, like he pointed out.

Link to MusicNinja's claim?

On my phone. Let me look for it.

And I didn't say anything because what evidence did I have? I thought he was town only because his claim was reminiscent of something MN did in another game and flipped town. Another thing is they both offered to help lynch their "buddies" (Helio explicitly saying CATSHARK, MN saying he'd offer clues or something of the sort). But this isn't "evidence" that Helio was in fact town. It just caused me to change my mind.

Aside from this lulzclaim, I read Helio as scum. It was that one post that swayed my read. i think that allows me to question how Helio could have been derp-town instead of scum.

[vijay2vasandani]

This Little Town

I just used the quickquote to the first VC of the game. Hope this works. I wouldn't read through the rest of the game, I'm a little embarrassed at how terrible I was.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

What do you think of Equinox and Prolapsed Brain, vijay?

[vijay2vasandani]

Prolapsed could very likely be scum, but Equinox is town.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Gimme your thought processes that lead you to the latter conclusion, taking into account that Equinox is a competent player.