Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

[Vi]

haha

I like the use of white space. It's very artistic.

GDit I'm not trying to be cute

this time

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Anyway, yeah, I know how Nuwen plays as town; I've even hydraed with her before. This feels like it to me. Frankly, I would have been suspicious if Nuwen hadn't gone after people like Uberninja and Elmo; Nuwen-town has a very low tollerance for lurkers, illogical play, and general stupidity.

Eh. Perhaps I have her ranked too high; I hate the part of the game where I find out that one of my town reads was wrong and have to figure out which one it is. I really don't at all see what you're talking about, though. How is her play this game different from her town meta?

look

tierce has been talking up nuwen for like weeks now

all the FIRE AND BLOOD AND CUT THE ARM OFF AND PUT SALT IN THE WOUND and whatever it was I've forgotten the exact words

which is

the EXACT

BLOODY

OPPOSITE

of sitting around

not voting

making idle threats

and then COMPLAINING THAT THE GAME IS GOING NOWHERE AND BORING

WHILE YOUR VOTE IS ON NO ONE

BECAUSE IT'S TRENDY TO COMPLAIN

also looking at flavor

this style of posting is remarkably therapeutic but has to look horrible

I'll apologize tomorrow or something

I mean

nuwen as town would

uh

ACTUALLY TRY TO LYNCH SCUM

instead of hanging back and waiting for power roles or flavor or something to incriminate her

is this really such a radical concept

seriously

[Yosarian2]

Vi-Gets some town cred for defending UN and Elmo day 1, and did eventually follow me onto the Furcolow lynch yesterday. Bizarre behavior today, though. Also gets some - points for the way she's been so singlemindedly pushing the awful Nuwen wagon for so long.

omg

u are teh dum

and not just because I've been holding the polar opposite against you since the MIDDLE OF DAY 1

has it occurred to you that you might be wrong and/or that i may be right

Of course it has. Every time it does, I go back, re-read Nuwen's posts again, and say "neah, I don't see it."

But yes, of course I could be wrong. I'm never 100% sure about anything other then cop results and Ether's alignment. So convince me.

Probably scum:

Katsuki

Magua : Chronic lurker, basically no content. I can't see any way this slot is likely to be town here.

is this entirely based on lurking
or is there more

because I know someone else who chronically lurks and gives basically no content

and even stalled to claim, JUST LIKE CERTAIN OTHER SCUM WE KNOW

It's based on process of elimination, the exact same way I nailed Furc yesterday. There are just too many people this game that are either clearly town or at least probably town. (shrug) Even if I was wrong about everything else and Nuwen was somehow scum, kats would *still* be her most likely scumbuddy.

[Yosarian2]

of sitting around

not voting

making idle threats

and then COMPLAINING THAT THE GAME IS GOING NOWHERE AND BORING

WHILE YOUR VOTE IS ON NO ONE

BECAUSE IT'S TRENDY TO COMPLAIN

also looking at flavor

this style of posting is remarkably therapeutic but has to look horrible

I'll apologize tomorrow or something

I mean

nuwen as town would

uh

ACTUALLY TRY TO LYNCH SCUM

instead of hanging back and waiting for power roles or flavor or something to incriminate her

is this really such a radical concept

seriously

This should seriously be your new posting style in all games all the time, it is pretty awesome.

Anyway, that's actually a pretty reasonable case. For a lot of day 2 Nuwen wasn't doing a lot of scumhunting. I do get a good vibe from the way she was defending certain people and the way she was questioning Furc about his aweful Yos-vote, but you're right, it would be better if she had placed a vote on Furc or whatever while doing it. Nuwen?

[Zar]

I've been doing some research on the scripture in the day scene.

It looks like it's written in demotic, which ties to the Rosetta Stone and ties to Jean-François Champollion.

[Zar]

future wifey, why where you hatin' on my Furc cases on D1 + D2?

[Magua]

Oh. Hai guiz.

I should probably read this game, but that sounds like effort and work.

Instead I'm going to post that I'm here and (allegedly) reading and we'll see what happens from that.

[shos]

I've been doing some research on the scripture in the day scene.

It looks like it's written in demotic, which ties to the Rosetta Stone and ties to Jean-François Champollion.

How did you figure it out? what does it say? what is the Rosetta Stone and how does it link to JFC?

[Vi]

future wifey, why where you hatin' on my Furc cases on D1 + D2?

Because you were being scum.

This should seriously be your new posting style in all games all the time, it is pretty awesome.

Wait, you WANT me to post like Parama? or maybe Fate; it's SOMEONE.
Either way, I'd like to pretend I have a little dignity when not completely exasperated.

Also, it's a lot easier to bus than defend at L-1, especially when you're scum with them and know exactly which buttons to push to open the trap door under the noose, etc.

[Zar]

I've been doing some research on the scripture in the day scene.

It looks like it's written in demotic, which ties to the Rosetta Stone and ties to Jean-François Champollion.

How did you figure it out? what does it say? what is the Rosetta Stone and how does it link to JFC?

I haven't figured out what it says yet. The characters look like demotic, though.

The Rosetta stone is a famous object that was used to decipher the Egyptian hieroglyphs; Champollion was responsible for the deciphering.

Cue word here is "Egyptian".

Vi are you writing stuff in death scenes now?

[Zar]

Shos, I have a question about your role. When did you say you sent your message to Hiraki, again?

[shos]

uhh day 1 somewhen, I can check, why?
is demotic the same as ancient egyptian?

[shos]

it has been delievered around May 05, in the afternoon.

[Yosarian2]

Vi: there is one thing in my (admittedly rather wordy) posts that you didn't comment on, and I'd like to hear what you think.

Even if I was wrong about everything else and Nuwen was somehow scum, kats would *still* be her most likely scumbuddy.

Let me explain this a little more. All logic starts with assumptions, so let me list mine. Note that this logic is all about finding the mafia scum pair, so all of these assumptions are strictly about mafia, not about the possibility of a SK.

Assumption 1: chamber and Zar are both confirmed town

Assumption 2: Nuwen and Vi are not scum together. I think this is pretty solid; it's possible Vi is mafia, it's possible Nuwen is mafia, and it's possible that both are town, but I don't think anyone is going to convince me that it's at all likely that they're scum together and that Vi's month-long anti-Nuwen crusade has been a bus.

Assumption 3: shos is not mafia. This is probably the weakest of the 3, but I don't think it's at all likely that he's part of the mafia here. (If you don't trust this assumption, you could replace this with "shos and Hiraki are not scum together", which seems pretty clear from their interactions on day 2, and you get basically the same results.)

Assumption 4: there are 2 scum left. This one actually isn't 100% certain; if there is a SK, then a 2 man scum group is possible. I'm going to assume the worst case scenario for now, though.

Anyway, as for possible scum pairs, that only leaves:

(Nuwen or Vi) + Hiraki
(Nuwen or Vi) + Kats
Hiraki + Kats

That logic makes me want to lynch either Hiraki or Kats today. Between the two of them, Hiraki looks a lot more town; at the end of the day yesterday, I noticed that even though Hiraki looked like he was going to get lynched, he opposed the Parama wagon I was trying to push (note that this was before the whole stupid cop gambit thing):

I don't think Parama is scum

just playing bad town this game

But he did join the Furcolow wagon later in the day. Considering Parama was town and Furcolow was scum, this raises my opinion of Hiraki. It's not ironclad, of course, but he just doesn't feel like scum; I have a lot more scumtells from that slot then from the Kats slot.

So, yeah. I really think the Kats/Magua slot is logically going to be mafia here; the odds of there being a mafia pair that does not include him seems pretty low to me.

[Zar]

it has been delievered around May 05, in the afternoon.

so it's a day ability.

did you send out any other messages during d2?

[Zar]

also, yes, demotic is an ancient egyptian form of writing.

[shos]

it has been delievered around May 05, in the afternoon.

so it's a day ability.

did you send out any other messages during d2?

I do not want to claim my role. You guys know that I was able to send a message in the day during day 1, but that's it. may be a 1-shot, may be an odd-day, may be every day once, may be a set amount of messages, etc etc. Nobody claimed that I messaged him in day 2, right?

also, yes, demotic is an ancient egyptian form of writing.

I showed that picture to an arab friend of mine and he said it wasn't arab, nor mirrored or anything, and that itlooks like Demotic. so you're probabyl right.

[Zar]

I'm claiming to having received a day message via the mod from somebody saying he was shos, asking me to breadcrumb whether Furcoscum was lying or not about my role.

[Zar]

So here's brand new spanking ViScum Theory.

In another game I played here (1308), The flavor text of the Morning Scene of D2 in evidentiated the SK/Vig/Mafia kills by referring to them as a "Deletion/Exploding/Devouring"

going by the Mod's Chekov gun in 1589,

That morning, the sun was brittle. It rose with difficulty behind the dark stormy clouds having carried from night. Even then, the grey, grainy light seemed too bright as it unveiled the cold bodies of Williard Winckelmann, and Polyphème Desroches.

Near the maimed remains of the later, writings hung on the wall.

It seems evident that Parama's death was done by somebody familiar with Egyptian writing.

Vi has claimed to be The Louvre's Mummy
The Death Scene has a message written in Demotic/Ancient Egyptian.
Vi was highly defensive of FurcoScum on D1,
Vi was fencesitting about killing FurcoScum until it was fairly late in the wagon.

I'm canceling our engagement.

VOTE: Vi

[Zar]

I think I finally found the alphabet

https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/co ... 0/dis3.jpg

[charter]

Yeah, I noticed Vi's stance regarding Furc was very indicative of them being buddies together.

[Vi]

@Yos2:

In re: Katsuki - I did mention the other night that Katsuki made that one post that actually did strike me as Townish. Ignoring that for a moment, your axioms aren't terrible, but I must have completely missed what made charter confirmed Town though - if it's Zar's result, then I wouldn't count that (see later axiom involving two scum). Also, for purposes of being fair and balanced (and also WIFOMy) it's worth pointing out that I bussed Adel in Tofu Mafia from page 5 through Day 2 against the will of most of the Town entirely because I wanted him to shut up and get out of my life. But that's a fun sidebar.

Getting back on track somewhere, Magua's post 1630 is something I could stand to lynch over on its own. The major issues with that are:
1) it's not a Nuwen lynch, and
2) it's not a lynch on someone willing to explain the kill situation (i.e. you)

So etc.

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shos, I think you mentioned it somewhere, but whereabouts do you live?

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Vi has claimed to be The Louvre's Mummy
The Death Scene has a message written in Demotic/Ancient Egyptian.
Vi was highly defensive of FurcoScum on D1,
Vi was fencesitting about killing FurcoScum until it was fairly late in the wagon.

I'm canceling our engagement.

VOTE: Vi

What is Louvre? ♪
Baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me ♫
etc.

I find it quite unlikely that I wrote anything last Night.

I don't remember myself being "highly defensive" of Furcoscum D1, but I do remember myself being very painfully wrong. In retrospect I'm ashamed, because now I can see that he really did look like his scum meta. <.<

[shos]

I am from Israel, why? it is now 2:18 am.

I count Charter as conftown too, if I hadn't said that before. How comes we don't have a single Hiraki post since the start of the day?

[Vi]

I am from Israel, why? it is now 2:18 am.

Curiosity tbh. One of my co-workers is going to move to Saudi Arabia because he likes it there (which I'm taking his word for). I want to go out and see the world, but etc.y etc. So I just like talking to people who have been there. But more of that elsewhen.

I'll kind of wait patiently for someone to explain charter-Town. The "kind of" refers to the patience part.

Hiraki has been around onsite since Day opened so etc.

[shos]

The word at the buttom spells 'mommi'.

[shos]

I cannot translate the rest. but Vi, I believe I'm going to ISO you tomorrow.