Open 398 - Alternating 9p- End of game

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VOTE: glowball
Quick! Before he starts hating all races!

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VOTE: glowball
Quick! Before he starts hating all races!

Gender: Female

No mean feat intended. I'm sexist.

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Uhmm, I don't see anything reportable. But if Amrun was offended well, its best that you apologize Chrimi.
Look, I know Chrimi from some other games, and he isn't the type to be purposely offensive.

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I don't think Amrun will be force replaced. Certainly hope not.
Don't think this conversation had

anything

to do with this game's progress. Maybe we should start again?

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That's just the thing I meant and wanted. Right. Where should we begin? Oh yeah. Glowball. Racist?

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and a Self-proclaimed Racist.

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@ Chrimi: Why do you want us to do something which you think "probably won't" help Town?

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What's "hypo ScumArmrun"?
Chrimi looks demotivated.

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Oh ok, this is a really different ballpark than epicmafia but ok this is gonna be fun. Meh

I think Amrun was purposely setting of Chrimi

, not that it's conclusive, just confusing. Townread on Elmo and not just because he replied to my previous post.

To what end I ask you, to what end?

And yeah

You can use the display posts by user.

And don't.

I second this.
Don't even start hero_bash.

Hard to read the game with the Amrun/Chrimi argument, but will try some ISO's on different people to get things developping. Will be back later tonight to do so.

This is a terrible, terrible post.

I second this too.
How exactly does Amrun/Chrimi argument make this game hard to read??

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^Just say, "I second Gunny's opinion."

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@Elmo: Well, you bolded the comma, so its not exact same thing

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...Wrong answer Hoops, wrong answer.
VOTE: hero_bash

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Umm, you might want to cancel your last statement, hero_bash. Guess you are new here and don't really know the "Codes of Mafia" we live and die by. Lol, is there one?

Also, did you have any real reason for voting me

except

the fact that I voted you for your ho-hum answer?

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Lol, I made that one up, but in Mafiascum, its one of the fundamental rules is that talking about on-going games is strictly prohibited.
Even just hinting at it, or merely referencing player style is something that's not allowed.

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I'm really getting

massive

town reads on hero... I think perhaps there may be one or more scum on his wagon.

VOTE: Chrimi
Care to explain on that?

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@hoopsmcgee: His answer to my question, natch. In case you didn't notice (read?):

Q: To what end is Amrun faking his emotions?
A: I honestly dunno. @.@

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He should have gave at least a sensible answer.
It's not necessarily "wrong" as n there was a correct answer for it, it was "wrong" in a sense that he didn't attempt to answer it properly.

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@Sotty7: In what sense do you mean "I don't think I like this game much."?

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Lol, Sotty

was

half a sleep. xD

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It's getting quite hot here and since I'm obvious noob and town can I sit back, relax, and enjoy in the idea that I'm a town anyway?

???????

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Wait till Chrimi explains this:

I'm really getting

massive

town reads on hero... I think perhaps there may be one or more scum on his wagon.

Meanwhile, I'll get into position.

Unvote

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@Chrimi, following your 125, who do you suspect most of being scum on his wagon?

I hadn't thought deeply about it, I had put it aside for later thinking of.

You said there may be "one of more scums" in this wagon and yet you didn't think deeply about it?!?!!?!
I recall there being three people in that wagon (Sotty, Elmo, Me). You say "one or more" on three people?
What is this? Chrimi?? HMMM???

drmyshotgun,

mostly

gutreads. The way he's doing stuff is obvious he doesn't know how to play the game, and the scumminess you guys are pointing out looks just like newb-town all over.

I don't like his most recent post, though. Slightly scummy, still interpreting it as noob town.

Your attempted answering my interrogation had gone the wrong way.
Of course Hero stinks of newbie all over. But what I asked you was the scums on his wagon.
Your answer: Mostly gutreads...doesn't really click.
Which person(s) were scummy on Hero wagon? That's what I wanted to ask.


I don't really like the short conversation Elmo and Hoopsmcgee had just up there.
Accept the fact, don't drag down another with it, I say.
Also, if you want to point that out do so in a case against that person.
Well, since you two are voting for each other I guess that

is

your cases on each other.


Oh yeah:
Imagine my face when I

just

noticed my epic-fail.

...Wrong answer Hoops, wrong answer.
VOTE: hero_bash

The first line there should contain Hero. Not Hoops. wtf, I'm sorry for the confusions I may have caused.
Damn, why do people get those two swapped? Lol, they're not exactly similar names...maybe they have similar characteristics. Yes, that must explain it...

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Oh also, I was wondering if we were missing a player or something and noticed that Globall is nowhere to be seen.

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Now you are saying you "wouldn't be surprised"?
So you wrote what was on top of your mind..? (-,-)

Also I've used multiple caps on one word only: HMMM
Oh and every first letter in a sentence.

@Elmo: Oh dear. Sorry!

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That you are throwing ambiguous words and insinuate wrong information apparently with no mind for its consequences.

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Hoops. Just go with me on this. It will make sense in the end

Can I?
Sotty's counter on Split was solid. That thing: "This seems reasonable BUT here's a list of reasons why you're scummy anyway"
But this line somehow makes me think Split and Hoops are partners. Trying to earn town-cred after getting a lynch or at least good distancing?

Well Chrimi, don't be so offended. I was merely trying to find out what's exactly in your mind.

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Umm, that doesn't make Hero less scummy than he already is.
Admit it, his blatant newbie card played and stating that he just wants to enjoy his Townie-ness is something that

is

worth policy lynching.

I don't really see why Elmo's Policy lynch! statement gets him his votes.

But I

am

curious of what Elmo saw in Hoops. and now why he wants Hoops to go along the same path with him is also a mystery.

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to make your vote official with white background (honestly its not required, but i do it anyways)

[ vote ] someone's name [ / vote ]

Without the spaces.

If you want to show us your cool signature, go to User Control Panel, and go to Board Preferences and go to Edit Posting Defaults and choose: Attach My Signature By Default

I don't know how to see one whole game in one page though.

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^Fuck yeah.

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???

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What was with that vote to Amrun?
Chrimi is a name miles away from Amrun?

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Another reread and I change my vote: VOTE: split

??????

This is the second time I did this to you and it's not looking good.

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So are you OMGUSing him again?

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VOTE: Hoops
Let's se how you react to this.

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Instead of reacting Hoops decides to lurk.

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Aha! He

was

lurking.

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Aha! He

was

lurking.

Vote: Drmyshotgun

That no lynch was pretty disgraceful, lets not have that happen again.

He

was

lurking. What about it?

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Aha! He

was

lurking.

Vote: Drmyshotgun

That no lynch was pretty disgraceful, lets not have that happen again.

He

was

lurking. What about it?

And you did what after this post?

Waited further for his comeback.

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Happy Birthday, Sotty!

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One of hoops and hero is scum. I suspected one of them yesterday and I forget which.

Weren't you voting for Elmo yesterday?
Does this mean, the Nightkill has altered not only your vote direction today, but also your memory?

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It occurs to me Amrun has some amazing agility in switching his mind and target with a single Night Kill.
His direction right now looks opportunistic and calculated. All thanks to the Death, which you probably devised yourself.
VOTE: Amrun
Did you kill Sir Bastion in order to convincingly get off your partner(Elmo, I suspect)'s wagon and turn it to another easy target that was rather popular yesterday?

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I'm sorry.
No offence intended. Apologies for mix-up. Happens with me all the time.

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So you drop every single charges against whoever you were going for yesterday, and go for me because I was busy for the last few days of the Day?
I was sure someone was going to hammer, so I didn't come around much (God, did ANYONE come around much?).
You are being opportunistic moreso because Sotty is voting for me for pretty much the same reason. I now suspect you to be with Amrun.
Is the NightKill meaningless to you, or are you just going to ignore it.

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Who was obvious Townie??
Nobody was

obvious

Townie. Certainly not to me.

P-Edit: ???

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Sotty, would you please hammer so we can get a scum and worry about shotty tomorrow?

What's up with you wanting blood so quick?
I can understand that Town haven't had a single drop yesterday, but you seem to be seriously rushing things.

Same with Amrun.

I'm jumping mainly because I don't have much right now and also to not be prodded.

VOTE: hoops

This is a bad vote. Honest, but stupid and hasty.

P-Edit: Agreed. Until Split and Hoops prod.

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I'm interested in what people have to talk about me. I want to see them today while we wait for Split and/or Hoops.

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What if I'm dead by then? What makes you guarantee my survival??

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Am I under high suspicion? Sorry, I didn't notice that.
Wasn't feeling any pressure on me.

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^Hey! A good excuse to ignore their conversation.

Chrimi buddying with Amrun and Sotty noted.

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Also UNVOTE:
This replacement looks pretty town >.>

VOTE: Shotty / Gunny

You still haven't talked much about me. So I suddenly become lynch target for you without giving anything?

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Don't worry gunny, you'll have plenty of time to defend against them tomorrow.

I'm interested in what people have to talk about me. I want to see them today while we wait for Split and/or Hoops.

I don't see enough (if any) of this.

Yeah, I find it odd that Chrimi decides to buddy with more experienced players like Sotty and Amrun over me on this game.
Yep, it is scummy that he should do so.

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I don't believe I was jumpy with that post Elmo. I also don't believe that you believe I was jumpy on that.
You smell like an opportunist right now. Do you have a case on me?

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Yeah, I find it odd that Chrimi decides to buddy with more experienced players like Sotty and Amrun over me on this game.
Yep, it is scummy that he should do so.

I thought this answered it.

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It is certainly out of ordinary. In all his games where Chrimi buddied with me, he was Town.
Maybe he thinks that I'm out of ordinary, but I'm not really feeling his love on this one. Thus I suspect he's not on the same side as I am on this game.

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It is certainly out of ordinary.

In all his games

where Chrimi buddied

with me,

he was Town.

wut

Maybe he thinks that I'm out of ordinary, but I'm not really feeling his love on this one. Thus I suspect he's not on the same side as I am on this game.

So you're finding him scummy because he is buddying players that aren't you even though buddying is a town trait he has shown before?

I'm confused.

Hmm, I meant the games I played with him.
I can clearly see that Amrun and you (sotty) are experienced players. I think it is sly and scummy of him to buddy with you guys over me.
Am I jealous? Yes. But I'm also finding it odd and strange.

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I suspect that Chrimi will feel guilty or something if he buddies with me on this game and later turn up Scum.
Yes, that must be why he is staying away from me on this one.
VOTE: Chrimi

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Oh and just pointing out, many people have mistaken Hoops and Hero in this game. The two of them were often swapped causing some confusion on Day 1.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=21865
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=21527
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=21747
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=21960

Sorry I'm not skilled and don't know how to make links like: [Open 397] etc.
Four games I've played with Chrimi. Maybe I shouldn't have linked the ongoing one, but I don't know which one it is now, but anyways, here you go.

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The ongoing one is the last link.
Ignore that one.

VOTE: Split

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I meant "fuck you" to everyone but Sotty. Haha.

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Split has basically used my argument against Amrun in order to jump on her wagon conveniently and started some ugly quarrel with her.
He called me Town basing only on my case on her and that has kind of blinded me until now.

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VOTE: split

Your next

Didn't you say before that I'm going tomorrow?

I want to vote elmo.. but I don't know. split for now.

.....
Do you know how to make cases on your own?
I believe your vote was a hammer, no?
Can you count?

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.......More later.

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Listen Chrimi and Hero_bash.
First of all, you two are NOT cops.
Second of all, you both don't have ANY cases on your vote targets
Third, this is a Lylo. Mislynch here and its a Good Job Scums!.

Got that?
So both of you, fuck off.

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Why do you not give a damn what hero does? Won't you be wanting his support on my lynch?
Where is the case Chrimi?
You obviously seem to know what's going on more than any of us. So explain?

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Okay..?
I'm thinking Chrimi-Hero team.
Makes sense cuz Chrimi keeps trying to avert Town attention from Hero by calling him "noob Town".

Btw, I made an error above. It's not serious Lylo today. Doctor can protect someone at Night and thus we may still have Lylo tomorrow.
But I'd really prefer to get a scum today.

What do you guys think of Chrimi-Hero team?
Look at Chrimi not saying

anything

about Hero's bullshit hammer yesterday.

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Why are you mad you weren't gonna move your vote from split anyways.

That's before your idiotic hammer. Seriously?

VOTE: chrimi

cuz i'm not sure what he's getting at.

btw i didn't vote him because shot suspected us as team. i actually have chrimi-elmo fos

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Waiting for Amrun and Scott...

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Good morning...

Was not expecting an Elmo kill O.o

VOTE: Hero

..............What happened to me? You bussing your partner now right?
Doctor should claim, no?

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Amrun is a "she". Has been pointed out already multiple times in this game. Which is an evidence that you clearly do not read while lurking, dragging on and on.
Since you asked, Hero.
Two mafias are obviously you and Chrmi. Since Chrimi is bussing you albeit with horrible vote and dumping of all his suspicion against me just because he didn't get NKed (why would he? He's the Scum), let me put a vote on your head.
VOTE: Hero_bash

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You fucking fail.

I'm the Doctor

If you thought that shobby phoney claim would save your ass, think again.
I protected Sotty Night 1, and I protected Scott Brosius Night 3.
Now you just claimed Scum by putting a bullshit fake-claim for your partner to NK me tonight.
Well, kiss your partner goodbye.
Town, I'm happy with the hammer right this instant.
After I die, lynch Chrimi. He is Scum with this little pal.

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LOL

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And why aren't you voting him instead of me, you were all over him on the past days even giving those 'evidence' to sotty.

LOL. Why am I voting you over Chrimi? That is just hilarious.
You claimed my fucking role. In a fucking lylo. This is just telling me, "I'm 100% Scum!". Just wear a name-tag (Scum here) next time, okay?
Why the hell would I vote Chrimi over you? That is more of a worthy question than the one you asked.

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@Amrun - What

can

I do Night 2? Nothing.
I think you are Town Amrun, cuz you didn't hammer me. It's Chrimi and Hero_Bash. I'll be pretty pissed off if we lose this shit.

@Hero_Bash - Chrimi buddying you all throughout the game, dismissing our suspicion on you by calling you "newb town", etc. You and Chrimi's noob Sir Bastion kill and Elmo kill. Chrimi had been grounded during the time this game was in Night 3. I think you acted alone in killing Elmo. I saw Chrimi's opportunistic bussing you as soon as the get go and I voted you to add pressure and in very high suspicion.
Until now that you've claimed, my vote is not moving. I want your death, I want it NOW.

What else is there?

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It's getting quite hot here and since I'm obvious noob and town can I sit back, relax, and enjoy in the idea that I'm a town anyway?

Hero's actions have all been building for this point. I think he was always one "fallguy" for the Scumteam.
The person who knows he won't last long and just poke around the attention so that he can just claim and drag out the real PR. Me, in this case.
His opportunistic hammering of Split, him saying he was "confirmed-town so I will sit back". Him throwing his votes around without much point.
These actions fit quite nicely for him to claim.

As the Day 4 began, I asked if the Doctor should claim, wanting to see the Town's viewpoint on claiming at Lylo, and seeing if a Scum would claim first.
I honestly didn't expect the Scum to claim Doctor at this point, but Hero took the bait.

fuck me if either of these two are town. I'M DOC btw forgot to claim.

After my vote.
Yep, looks like last ditch effort to repel more Votes and drag out the real Doctor.

As for Amrun's questions, I'll answer after my shower.

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Scumteam would have noticed him saying: "Confirmed Town".
Why did he leave him be? Well, there was a good excuse to be made from explaining his survival.
Frankly speaking, he was quite useless and moreso clueless in this game.
Well, guess what? He's actually Scum and that explains why he survived the Nights.

Okay, really going for shower now.

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I protected Sotty because she was one of the more experienced players.
I thought about protecting Sir Bastion, too but thought Scums would like to get rid of Sotty before Sir Bastion.
Didn't know that Scums tend to off SB Night 1.

Night 3 was more of a gamble.
At that point, I already figured out the Scumteam consisting Hero and Chrimi, so there were 3 people left to protect.
I tried to think like a scum. They would obviously

want

the kill to happen.
Amrun was an obvious choice for protection. She got involved, was active (sort of, but not much on Day 3), and she was someone who the Town knows to be an asset.
But Scums would [

want

the kill. They would obviously think Doctor will have Amrun's back.
That leaves 3 people. Me, Scott Bro, and Elmo.
I can't protect myself, so that was that and both Scott and Elmo was tending to be quite inactive.
Although less can be said about the person he replaced, Scott really solidified himself as Town in my mind.
Elmo, I still wasn't 100% sure on him. So Scott got the protection.

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......The hell?

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gg..awaiting gunny and scott(?) vote.

Err, no man. Chrimi is just bussing you for infinite Town cred for him to bag.
He ain't getting that.

Good morning...

Was not expecting an Elmo kill O.o

VOTE: Hero

..............What happened to me? You bussing your partner now right?
Doctor should claim, no?

I asked this prior to actually making the claim in order to do two things:
1. Get approval from everybody in the Daylight. I'm relatively new, didn't know Mylo=No lynches, so I wanted 100% support for the claim.
2. To see if Hero would fakeclaim. Yes. I always saw him as the kind of a fallguy for him and Chrimi team. So yeah, I was half expecting him to claim before me. Look at him coming into the day without claiming first.
But when he was put into L-1, he screams out: "I'm DOC btw forgot to claim."
Forgot? So he meant to claim prior to anything, but merely forgot?

If you go on to vote me Scott, then you posted like 10 posts in this game and helped out in killing a Doc in the live Daylight. At least let me fall during the Night after eliminating an imposter.

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Apologies to anyone I offended (especially Hero, but it was kinda neccessary for me to counter/fake claim), if any.
Apology to Chrimi, for being lousy partner.
Good job to all Town players.

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I wasn't given the Dead QT... Maybe Mafias not allowed on Dead QT?
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