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[andrew94]

@tech, did you not say kassadin is likely town?


What do you feel about nacho then?

[TeChNoWC]

I'm not implying Kass' vote on Jackal makes him scum. It's simply the fact that Jackal seems the easy go to lynch, and townies could be jumping on to it as well.

I think you aren't quite understanding my stance on Kass, though. Kass is NULL for me, but at this point any null is more likely to flip town than scum so I am absolutely unequivocally unwilling to lynch any of my nullreads, ie Kass.

Nacho is likely where my vote will go today, but I want more input from everyone. It's like everyone who is unconf has gone into turbo lurk mode and I can't figure out why, though it makes sense if mafia are getting pressure at the moment, which gives me more hope BK, Venmar and I are onto a winner.

There is a third person I am considering but not sure if I should tell yet. However its probable that anyone could figure it out by process of elimination on the reads I've already stated today.

[Venmar]

I'm not implying Kass' vote on Jackal makes him scum. It's simply the fact that Jackal seems the easy go to lynch, and townies could be jumping on to it as well.

I think you aren't quite understanding my stance on Kass, though. Kass is NULL for me, but at this point any null is more likely to flip town than scum so I am absolutely unequivocally unwilling to lynch any of my nullreads, ie Kass.

Nacho is likely where my vote will go today, but I want more input from everyone. It's like everyone who is unconf has gone into turbo lurk mode and I can't figure out why, though it makes sense if mafia are getting pressure at the moment, which gives me more hope BK, Venmar and I are onto a winner.

There is a third person I am considering but not sure if I should tell yet. However its probable that anyone could figure it out by process of elimination on the reads I've already stated today.

This third person i am assuming is either DCL or Thomith?

[andrew94]

@tech why does it not look like bussing?

[TeChNoWC]

@Venmar: DCL, with the possibility of Kass.

@andrew: It's possible, but less likely, since I feel scum will want to not bus at this stage and take three into D4. Also, Jackal is a great mislynch option, just like Burke was.

Either way, let's try and hit the big scum first and I am confident with Nacho and Llama. The game you linked me to andrew, Llama has a different playstyle than this game, so meta is still making me think he could be town, but I really don't like the way he has toned down his content today + some of his suggestions seem like they were trying to mislead town in terms of mechanics.

Just as a sidenote, your lynch that day seemed stupid. The vote analysis' almost proved Llama was scum and he blatantly pushed you through quickly, lol.

[BK201]

Andrew, whats your detailed read on Nacho?

[Thomith]

ok, i am a little unsure, right now jackal and kass are providing little so could be lynches, however because of how i originally felt about kass i am not so sure, and nacho and andrew could be better lynches as they will be easier to link if they are scum because of them contributing, right now i am not sure about DCL and llama.

[Jackal711]

@mod: Sorry to do this but I really don't have time for games right now with crap that's going on IRL. Please find a replacement.

[andrew94]

origianlly i thought nacho was town and that
venmar, argula and llama were scum

Later on he voted on techno (town read).
Hes currrently null, as i like DCl ,jackal more as scum

[BK201]

ok, i am a little unsure, right now jackal and kass are providing little so could be lynches, however because of how i originally felt about kass i am not so sure, and nacho and andrew could be better lynches as they will be easier to link if they are scum because of them contributing, right now i am not sure about DCL and llama.

What's your detailed read on Nacho and Andrew?

origianlly i thought nacho was town and that
venmar, argula and llama were scum

Later on he voted on techno (town read).
Hes currrently null, as i like DCl ,jackal more as scum

Explain, why do you "like DCL and Jackal more as scum".

[Venmar]

origianlly i thought nacho was town and that
venmar, argula and llama were scum

Later on he voted on techno (town read).
Hes currrently null, as i like DCl ,jackal more as scum

- Oh, how coincidental that all your scum reads ( excluding the unconfirmed LlamaFluff ) turned up as town? Either you are going for the wrong people or you are scum? But which one? Which one indeed...

- That said, i am less inclined to go for your scum reads because of how wrong your previous ones were with me and Arugula. Still not seeing how Andrew could possibly read so town to all of you...

[DCLXVI]

sorry about not posting recently, been a bit busy with work and put this off...

Reads:

scum: Thomith, Andrew

Null: Llama, Nacho, jackal

Troll: Kass

Confirmed town:BK, Techno, Venmar


Basically the people I want to see hang today are thomith and andrew. I wouldn't mind a kass lynch simply as kass is completely useless as town.

VOTE: thomith

[LlamaFluff]

Tomorrow I do this. Just got back from SoL, which ment getting done with a 12 hour drive.

@DCL - Give me more of a read on Kass then 'troll'
@Venmar - Being completely inaccurate may actually be a very slight town tell actually. I think more players tend to at least be "sorta right" enough as scum to be able to get some town credit for stuff.

[Thomith]

Nacho started off as town and i thought they were town until someone pointed out (dont remember who) that their posts really contained little of their own ideas, so now i am not so sure and think they would be a pretty good lynch today.

Andrew i have a scum read on but i really dont know why so really it is gut, i just dont like the way he leaves some arguements on him not completely answered imo, and with the amount of suspicion on both players i think they may be better lynches, as they have been interacting more so will be easier to pair if needed.

[BK201]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Thomith

[Chimera]

drmyshotgun replaces Jackal711. Vote count coming.

[Chimera]

Votecount 3.4

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Nachomamma8 (1) -- Venmar
drmyshotgun (2) -- LlamaFluff, Kassadin
Thomith (2) -- DLCXVI, BK201

Not voting -- andrew94, TeCHNoWC, drmyshotgun, Thomith, Nachomamma8

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-01 11:17:00)

Prodding Nachomamma8

[drmyshotgun]

Hello everybody! Extra hello to everybody I know.
I have been reading this game a bit before offering to join.
I'm still not very bright with the set-up though.

I'll get to it asap.

[andrew94]

@ DCL, that reads list is just a copy of one of your posts 2 posts back.

his post 619 is crap
i already responded to your case at 558. you no response?

[drmyshotgun]

So people were talking about PL on Jackal or Kassadin?
Well I'm Jackal now so you guys should put away that PL idea on me.
Kassadin PL is something I'd push right at the beginning of the game, but no. I no lynch Kassadin. Ever.
Andrew, Llama, Venmar, Nacho is Town I think.

[andrew94]

so dcl

vote dcl

[drmyshotgun]

Maybe Thomith is scum. But yeah, I'll sheep.
VOTE: DCLXVI

[DCLXVI]

@DCL - Give me more of a read on Kass then 'troll'

I'd give more of a read on kass if there was more of kass to read.

@ DCL, that reads list is just a copy of one of your posts 2 posts back.

Well, the two flips (Techno as confirmed town, and rasp as dead town) didn't do much to change my reads.

I'm posting them again for the simple reason of letting people know what my

current

reads are.

his post 619 is crap

Care to explain why?

[andrew94]

Lets see.

Your fact number 1
VEnmar is town
and fact number 2
Venmar was a major wagon day 1.


Then you assume that a major day one wagon will have 1-2scum

So you say that i am scum on it

Theres some problems with your reasoning.
Firstly, how the F did i know that venmar is town?
the fact was only revealed at day 2.
During day 1, i thought venmar was scum.
THis is really crappy reasoning. If i am voting town, i get called
scum. IF i am voting scum, i get called for cheating. wtf?

how was venmar a major wagon. i think thomith was major.
why dont you analyse the thomith wagon as well?

finally, you should respond to the other points in my post,
namely the part where i said [quote="In post 793,i already responded to your case at 558. you no response?[/quote]

instead of selectively responding

[DCLXVI]

andrew you are clearly not getting my case on you.

let me put it more bluntly for you.

I think you are scum who pushed for a mislynch on venmar.