Open 402 -- Hard Boiled (Game Over!)

drmyshotgun · Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:14 am

Hide behind me. Plz.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:17 am

Don't hide BK. There is good odds of us winning. Plus we will have a PR result tommorrow.

drmyshotgun · Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:18 am

But I'm Town.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:19 am

BK, who do you think looks like the best lynch option tommorrow, simply from what we have now?

Pedit: And? Even if you are, hiding behind town is a BAAAD idea at this stage.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:21 am

In post 1127, drmyshotgun wrote:But I'm Town.

I'm not sure why you are worrying anyway. You are not the likely lynch candidate tomorrow. If you are town, we are on the right track. If you are scum, good for you you're flying under the radar. Why are you worrying about becoming conf so bad?

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:23 am

No hide tonight. It drops it to 8 alive with Kass dead, small chance of andrew having a guilty. Hiding basically is using the mislynch at this point. If there is one scum left hiding is a worthwhile gamble though because if scum is hit thats the game.

After that I think hiding is the right move since the scum pool is lowered.

I would say Thomith is best chance for town out of nacho/DMS/Thomith at this point. Reaction from DCL is a little awkward for Thomith to be scum but as that last game with Thomith proved stranger things can happen. For those not in that game I thought I saw a cop breadcrumb in an open, soft claimed pretty hard cop with a guilty on a player who was scum, and one of the other scum responded by pushing hard on their other partner.

Its a mild tell I think.

If andrew is detective - I am scum only if I havent killed
If andrew is psych - I am scum only if I killed N2

Realistically though, I still think it should be obvious im town because andrew is alive. I think if you go back its obvious the exact point that I noticed he was a PR (and even what PR he was). The other one I was wrong on, thought Venmar was tracker for some reason.

BK201 · Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:28 am

In post 1055, BK201 wrote:

In post 1048, andrew94 wrote:Considering (Llama picked up on the crumb) + (rasb hardcore soft-claiming + his poor play of voting confirmed town venmar)
What may have occurred is Llama decided to spread the kills(so none of the scum would show up guilty to the Psyche). Since they can render the Psyche useless, it makes a lot more sense to kill the suspected Tracker, Rasb.

Venmar · Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:30 am

Woot.
Me and my crumbing = win.

Chimera · Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:53 am

Quickly saying that I've had a lot more trouble making time for this than I expected. VC coming up. And holy crap this game exploded in the last two days...

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:02 pm

In post 1130, LlamaFluff wrote:No hide tonight. It drops it to 8 alive with Kass dead, small chance of andrew having a guilty. Hiding basically is using the mislynch at this point. If there is one scum left hiding is a worthwhile gamble though because if scum is hit thats the game.

After that I think hiding is the right move since the scum pool is lowered.

I would say Thomith is best chance for town out of nacho/DMS/Thomith at this point. Reaction from DCL is a little awkward for Thomith to be scum but as that last game with Thomith proved stranger things can happen. For those not in that game I thought I saw a cop breadcrumb in an open, soft claimed pretty hard cop with a guilty on a player who was scum, and one of the other scum responded by pushing hard on their other partner.

Its a mild tell I think.

If andrew is detective - I am scum only if I havent killed
If andrew is psych - I am scum only if I killed N2

Realistically though, I still think it should be obvious im town because andrew is alive. I think if you go back its obvious the exact point that I noticed he was a PR (and even what PR he was). The other one I was wrong on, thought Venmar was tracker for some reason.

Your reason for being town is massive WIFOM. Also by the sound of your frustration, I get the feeling you were opposed to a Rasp kill but your two scumbuddies overpowered you and went for the kill anyway, and now you are shitty about it + trying to get towny points.

At least for once though we agree on what BK should do.

BK, PLEASE DO NOT HIDE. It's way too risky.

Llama, who do you think is the last two scum?

Venmar · Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:06 pm

Well considering the scum are going to be killing Andrew or Kassadin 100%... I don't see the harm in BK confirming one more person because i doubt the scum will target anyone in the unconfirmed pool, it's way too risky for them.

It's all up to BK after all.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:12 pm

In post 1135, Venmar wrote:Well considering the scum are going to be killing Andrew or Kassadin 100%... I don't see the harm in BK confirming one more person because i doubt the scum will target anyone in the unconfirmed pool, it's way too risky for them.

It's all up to BK after all.

The harm is that he has to tell us beforehand, and if he targets a towny the mafia will know, and they will kill the towny AND BK, leaving us with two dead townies rather than one.

I guess there is the benefit though that he could hit scum, and an unconf town dying gets the lynch pool down... Hhhhmmm....

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:15 pm

I just realised something. BK don't hide.

Chimera · Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:20 pm

Votecount 3.6

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Nachomamma8 (4) -- Venmar, drmyshotgun, TeCHNoWC, BK201

(L-2!)

DLCXVI (2) -- andrew94, Thomith
Kassadin (1) -- DLCXVI

Not voting -- Nachomamma8, LlamaFluff, Kassadin

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-01 11:17:00)

Suffice it to say DCLXVI, a

Mafia Goon

has been lynched.

It is now Night 3! All night actions should be in within (expired on 2012-07-01 19:18:00).

Chimera · Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:37 am

Apologies (again) for the delay. Had an unexpected day trip and thus no computer access for more than 24 hours. Results coming now.

Chimera · Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:51 am

After a third day of arguing over who was doing what during the sleep cycles, someone finally decided enough was enough and demanded that everyone give a full account of what they had done. This seemed like a reasonable plan so everyone gave their accounts, but as (obviously) no one admitted to the murders of Arugula and raspberrylicious mystery remained.

Suddenly andrew burst out "I know he did it!", pointing at DCLXVI. Everyone turned to him. He glanced around, shrugged, pulled out a blaster and did away with himself. Chuckling, andrew continued on to explain that he actually wasn't sure but suicide was enough of a confession of guilt.

Somewhat comforted by finally finding one of the killers, a settled down for the sleep cycle again, hoping that the morning would reveal no more dead bodies.

Again, however, this was not to be.

BK201,

Hider

, was killed Night 3.

It is now Day 4. Deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-08 11:52:00)

Votecount 4.1

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Not Voting -- Venmar, drmyshotgun, TeCHNoWC, andrew94, Thomith, Nachomamma8, LlamaFluff, Kassadin

Venmar is V/LA for a brief period of time.

Venmar · Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:23 am

BK..? I was expecting Andrew or Kassadin to get killed...

Well, Andrew, Kassadin, report it.

Thomith · Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:37 am

llama (post 1130) - where did you make it obvious you saw andrew was a PR?

Also if i missed any questions from yesturday that i missed point me in their direction, did a quick re-read during night for anything i missed that i needed to touch up on today but found nothing so far, but i could have missed something.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:26 am

Fuck no.

That was a good kill by mafia.

Basically if BK was alive tonight and hid, we would have won the game.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:02 am

Btw, love the flavour Chimera. Classic case of andrew win

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:41 am

In post 1142, Thomith wrote:llama (post 1130) - where did you make it obvious you saw andrew was a PR?

It was right around where I accused him of rolefishing that I saw him as either scum or the psych role. That type of response only would come from someone who is trying to figure out if im claiming or not either to know if they should NK me, or if they should counter. Know its WIFOM, but I would have hard pushed that lynch through especially over Rasp.

If I was scum Rasp I know would probably be a mislynch if she was not a PR, andrew would have been maybe a lylo mislynch if that, and was good PR chance through his behavior, so the choice of NK would have been simple since andrew even as VT was an acceptable kill at that point in the game for scum.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:43 am

In post 680, andrew94 wrote:before ending day, llama, did your case on tech just desolve

llama should be null
scumlist: dcl, jackal

I thought this was a crumb, indicating either he was PRing me or you.

Venmar · Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:53 am

*sigh*

Andrew and Kassadin should report their powers, if we're lucky Kassadin didn't track BK and instead tracked someone else.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:59 am

In post 1147, Venmar wrote:*sigh*

Andrew and Kassadin should report their powers,
if we're lucky Kassadin didn't track BK and instead tracked someone else
.

Here's hoping that did not happen.

But yeah, let's get the info guys.

TeChNoWC · Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:06 am

Oh yeah, what I saw about hider winning for us was this:

If he was still alive today, we could have lynched any of the four unconf, wouldn't matter. Say it's a mislynch, leaves us with one unconf town and two scum. Then, BK hides behind ANYONE, and says who beforehand. If he lives, we would have known who the last two scum are because he would have confirmed the last unconf. If he dies, he hid behind scum, and we lynch that guy, leaving two lynch options for the next day, and if my maths is right it wouldn't matter who we lynched then basically we just lynch them both and win.

Ergo sum, whoever killed BK realised this.